Conquer Club

Was anything genuinely better back in the day? If so, then what and on which day? Or has the steady march of progress led to a situation where things are at their best today?

Harvard referencing please.

Fast food.

Product quality.

muy_thaiguy wrote:Product quality.

Have you never owned a car from the mid 1970s to the early 1990s they were horrible, buildings constructed during that time were the same, aluminum wiring?

Some quality from China of all places has actually gone up extremely high.

You used to be able to spot anything made there from across the room because most of it was honestly, garbage straight out of the package.

This iPad has taken a beating and works great, as well it had an obvious good finish when new. The Motorola modem and D-link router between it and you seems pretty decent.

We also bought a Fender Strat made in China a few Christmases ago. It's way better than a lot of the strats I had seen from the past and most of the Fender basses I've played from before 2008, ( I think, might have been 2006 ) when they changed the manufacturing process and made the new American ones you can get now, better than ever.

All the good music from the seventies is way more enjoyable on a $200 stereo than it was in the eighties on even a more expensive stereo. Even though few people I knew even had an expensive one back then. Because $200 is affordable now almost everyone has a decent one now, the $500+ back then was a big investment you had to save possibly years for.

The Bose system in my wife's avalanche is better that the $1500 Sony I put in my truck in 1987 which at that time was finally a decent stereo that could play the new CDs.

I'll allow that Vinyl records have better tone but probably 80% of peoplel can't tell.

Some might even say I am wrong about fast food since it is made much better in some ways. By replacing parts with synthetic ingredients that last much longer.

2dimes wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:Product quality.

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I'll allow that Vinyl records have better tone but probably 80% of peoplel can't tell.
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And, recently FLAC files have become much more widespread. Their quality is teh awesome.

BigBallinStalin wrote:
And, recently FLAC files have become much more widespread. Their quality is teh awesome.

Yes, though I do think even CDs are good. I don't even mind the sound quality of a good YouTube. Much of that is mp3 which is noticeably lacking but only on certain things either through ear/head phones or really great speakers.

Most music now is digitally recorded anyway so putting it on vinyl is silly and makes it worse because dragging a needle across bumps or a pickup across magnetically aligned particles imbedded in a tape makes crackling and hiss.

Back when it was an analogue guitar through an amp recording it to digital reduced the available sound waves. Analogue is infinite but even recording to tape cuts that, then since digital is binary numbers it's a smaller range again, even more noticeable when listening to vocals or wind instruments used for classical music or opera. Fortunately the ear hears more music because the noise is removed, sounds better over all even though you lose some high and low frequencies.

Trolls and multis.

which day?

Link would be good. I must have missed it.

America was genuinely better before the Gilded age took over. Canada too.

I don`t do Harvard referencing... will APA do?

How Yosh?

My life's better now. I have a phone in my pocket, a good stereo, more addictive chili cheese fries, pr0n is everywhere...

DY's utility is maximized when he lives at a level of subsistence + a computer + some electricity.

Everything was better in the day.

Serbia wrote:Define "day".

A 24 hour period.

Serbia wrote:Oh cool, thanks

No probs dude.

Bollocks.

2dimes wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:Product quality.

Have you never owned a car from the mid 1970s to the early 1990s they were horrible, buildings constructed during that time were the same, aluminum wiring?

Trucks, yes. A 1974 Chevy pickup. It was a workhorse with the original engine. Worked well until I was forced to let it sit for over a year with constant bouts of lightheadedness (caused by Menier's Disease). Engine just was not working right anymore.

Some quality from China of all places has actually gone up extremely high.

Still breaks rather easily though.

You used to be able to spot anything made there from across the room because most of it was honestly, garbage straight out of the package.

Now it looks prettier, but still sucks.

This iPad has taken a beating and works great, as well it had an obvious good finish when new. The Motorola modem and D-link router between it and you seems pretty decent.

There are exceptions, but my grandmother has a pots and pans set from the 60s that looks like it was bought a couple years ago. Lifetime warranty. I've seen newer pots pans barely last year before you have to throw them away.

We also bought a Fender Strat made in China a few Christmases ago. It's way better than a lot of the strats I had seen from the past and most of the Fender basses I've played from before 2008, ( I think, might have been 2006 ) when they changed the manufacturing process and made the new American ones you can get now, better than ever.

You sure its real then? But all the ones really worth something are ones from the 50s-80s, American Made.

All the good music from the seventies is way more enjoyable on a $200 stereo than it was in the eighties on even a more expensive stereo. Even though few people I knew even had an expensive one back then. Because $200 is affordable now almost everyone has a decent one now, the $500+ back then was a big investment you had to save possibly years for.

Stereos were also relatively new too. But can you really compare Beethoven, Bach, and others to, say, the Beatles?

The Bose system in my wife's avalanche is better that the $1500 Sony I put in my truck in 1987 which at that time was finally a decent stereo that could play the new CDs.

Like you said, CDs were new and tapes didn't even really die off until the 90s (had a walkman myself).

I'll allow that Vinyl records have better tone but probably 80% of peoplel can't tell.

Looking to get a good record player myself. Always enjoyed listening to records, and there's a store in town that sells quite a few.

Some might even say I am wrong about fast food since it is made much better in some ways. By replacing parts with synthetic ingredients that last much longer.

Not arguing with you on that one. A home cooked burger is always better than a fastfood place. Some sit-down resturaunts though have pretty good burgers though.

2dimes wrote:How Yosh?

My life's better now. I have a phone in my pocket, a good stereo, more addictive chili cheese fries, pr0n is everywhere...

Your life doesn`t matter.
Phones suck - pony express was way cooler.
Music is over-rated.
Chili cheese fries are indeed delicious, but the point is that every chili cheese fry you eat was harvested by slave labor farmers, cooked by slave labor workers and slave labor factory workers, all to make some fat-cat millionaire richer. My entire point is that the gilded age introduced this realm of inequality into the US, after the constitution set about eliminating this inequality. America dropped the ball. The white man moved into the last of the Indian territories and it became - guess what - Okla-fuckin-homa, the epicenter of the Devil. Are chili cheese fries really worth the soul of the planet?

Fast food is about the one progression/development I loath the most.

Apple designed obsolescence doesnt bother me nearly as much as shitty fake tasteless food packed with sugars and/or salt to trick people into thinking its good.

According to Stan Rogers:
"The Mounties stayed away from the parties and they didn`t mind a fight when the spirits got high
You could always throw em out in the snow And the rum was better and it came in bigger bottles
And the revenue cutters were slow"

Wasn't the answer "jalopy"?

Bollocks.

Vinyl has a much richer sound than CD's, the base tells the story.

Movies too, the originals from the 70's are WAYYYY better than the 90's and 00's remakes.