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I play in a (hypothetical) game of soccer. My team loses 8-0. When I tell my friend about the game he says 'oh, you guys got raped!'.

Do you think 'raped' is an acceptable term to use to describe the process of being heavily defeated? Is it trivialising a traumatic crime?

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Yeah it's kinda stupid, but then most of the people I've ever heard using words like that are spotty teenagers who have too many hormones and not enough brain cells to know any better.

mrswdk wrote:I play in a (hypothetical) game of soccer. My team loses 8-0. When I tell my friend about the game he says 'oh, you guys got raped!'.

Do you think 'raped' is an acceptable term to use to describe the process of being heavily defeated? Is it trivialising a traumatic crime?

It makes no sense to use. Rape is a non-consensual sexual act. Presumably you played in the game voluntarily.

Metsfanmax wrote:

mrswdk wrote:I play in a (hypothetical) game of soccer. My team loses 8-0. When I tell my friend about the game he says 'oh, you guys got raped!'.

Do you think 'raped' is an acceptable term to use to describe the process of being heavily defeated? Is it trivialising a traumatic crime?

It makes no sense to use. Rape is a non-consensual sexual act. Presumably you played in the game voluntarily.

Presumably the victim was walking down the street voluntarily when she got raped.

"They got slaughtered" and "we killed them" express similar meanings, and duh they don't literally mean that they killed or raped the other team, thereby violating any norms about consent. If your friend literally means that, then he may have a problem which goes beyond mere words.

(1) Is it acceptable? Acceptable to whom? I don't strongly care against its usage, and it provides a fun opportunity for some light trolling. E.g. "mrswdk, you were raped? I'm so sorry; is there anything I can do to comfort you? <insert sexual advance>."

(2) Does it trivialize rape? Comedy can certainly make light of it, but "rape" in the context of team sports and "rape" in the context of crime are distinct. The former is trivialized while the latter--from my approach--is not trivialized even though many may think otherwise. This belief in its trivialization probably reflects some people's inability to differentiate the 'same' word from different contexts.

mrswdk wrote:I play in a (hypothetical) game of soccer. My team loses 8-0. When I tell my friend about the game he says 'oh, you guys got raped!'.

Do you think 'raped' is an acceptable term to use to describe the process of being heavily defeated?

Possibly. Are you playing in the California Prison Soccer League?

I believe that it may in fact be linguistically correct. The word "rape" literally means to take by force, it is a synonym for words like "rob" and "pillage", hence the old standby "rape and pillage".
If we take it to be a literal descriptive sentence, the implied context should be "Your team got raped (of their win/points)".

Metsfanmax wrote:
It makes no sense to use. Rape is a non-consensual sexual act. Presumably you played in the game voluntarily.

That's the only definition of rape is it?

It certainly is one definition of rape, but there are other definitions. I suggest you look it up in a dictionary and see if there are any other definitions, such as that / has provided-

/ wrote:I believe that it may in fact be linguistically correct. The word "rape" literally means to take by force, it is a synonym for words like "rob" and "pillage", hence the old standby "rape and pillage".
If we take it to be a literal descriptive sentence, the implied context should be "Your team got raped (of their win/points)".

/ wrote:I believe that it may in fact be linguistically correct. The word "rape" literally means to take by force, it is a synonym for words like "rob" and "pillage", hence the old standby "rape and pillage".
If we take it to be a literal descriptive sentence, the implied context should be "Your team got raped (of their win/points)".

The "rape" in "rape and pillage" quite literally does mean to sexually assault (women, usually). What you're saying would make "rape and pillage" a redundant statement, whereas it does refer to raping the women and stealing the town's goods when applied to historical descriptions of soldiers conquering enemy villages.

Either way, it still does not make sense, because in some way rape implies a non-voluntary action (whether it be sexual assault or not), whereas the game was played voluntarily.

Metsfanmax wrote:

/ wrote:I believe that it may in fact be linguistically correct. The word "rape" literally means to take by force, it is a synonym for words like "rob" and "pillage", hence the old standby "rape and pillage".
If we take it to be a literal descriptive sentence, the implied context should be "Your team got raped (of their win/points)".

The "rape" in "rape and pillage" quite literally does mean to sexually assault (women, usually). What you're saying would make "rape and pillage" a redundant statement, whereas it does refer to raping the women and stealing the town's goods when applied to historical descriptions of soldiers conquering enemy villages.

Either way, it still does not make sense, because in some way rape implies a non-voluntary action (whether it be sexual assault or not), whereas the game was played voluntarily.

Redundancies are commonly used to emphasize something.
-Fear and terror
-Hot and spicy
-Forever and always

The definition asserts that force as the emphasis, one can pillage a "consensual" warring nation, one can "steal" a ball from another team. I don't see where it is grammatically incorrect.

/ wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

/ wrote:I believe that it may in fact be linguistically correct. The word "rape" literally means to take by force, it is a synonym for words like "rob" and "pillage", hence the old standby "rape and pillage".
If we take it to be a literal descriptive sentence, the implied context should be "Your team got raped (of their win/points)".

The "rape" in "rape and pillage" quite literally does mean to sexually assault (women, usually). What you're saying would make "rape and pillage" a redundant statement, whereas it does refer to raping the women and stealing the town's goods when applied to historical descriptions of soldiers conquering enemy villages.

Either way, it still does not make sense, because in some way rape implies a non-voluntary action (whether it be sexual assault or not), whereas the game was played voluntarily.

Redundancies are commonly used to emphasize something.
-Fear and terror
-Hot and spicy
-Forever and always

The definition asserts that force as the emphasis, one can pillage a "consensual" warring nation, one can "steal" a ball from another team. I don't see where it is grammatically incorrect.

OK, I'll try a different tack then: "You got raped of your win" does not make any sense under this definition, because the win didn't belong to either team. It is the result of competition under a set of specified rules. The win wasn't taken from you; rather, you just failed to earn it. Similarly, "you got raped of your points" makes no sense because 1) you only get the points by actively doing well as a team; they don't inherently belong to you, and 2) what happened was that the other team scored more points than you, not that they took any away from you.

Yes, I suppose that makes sense. It shouldn't be used in as broad a context as a general loss.

Though for an overwhelming loss as described in the OP, it might be construed as "Your team was completely raped (of their pride)".

(A) Given Mets' responses ITT, do you find that he currently has been incapable of differentiating between the various meanings of the same word in different contexts?

(e.g. 'rape' in reference to 'severely losing a sports game' versus 'rape' in reference to 'non-consensual sex').


(A) In other words, is he incorrectly applying a literal interpretation to a context which does not merit a literal interpretation?


(B) Don't words have diverse meanings? Don't we have literary tools (like hyperbole) which can give rise to varied meanings?

mrswdk wrote:I play in a (hypothetical) game of soccer. My team loses 8-0. When I tell my friend about the game he says 'oh, you guys got raped!'.

Do you think 'raped' is an acceptable term to use to describe the process of being heavily defeated? Is it trivialising a traumatic crime?

Pull the tampon out of your ass and the supposotory out of your who-who... it is a figure of speech.

Down with dope, up with hope!

It may be a figure of speech, but it's still a poor choice
to describe a one sided loss in a sporting event. You won't
find it headlining a sports page any time soon to express
a crushing defeat.

With an 8-nil score --using that logic-- the outcome could just
as easily be called a gang bang if every player on the other
team scored. If getting raped is an appropriate turn of
phrase, would it also be tolerable to say the losers certainly
got butt fucked in that game? Or maybe a less colorful form
would be easier to stomach.. like a good rogering.

Fact is there are better ways to describe a lopsided victory.

oVo wrote:Fact is there are better ways to describe a lopsided victory.

like "slaughtered"? "crushed"?

those don't sound nearly as bad as getting "raped"

thank you for sharing your fact

oVo wrote:If getting raped is an appropriate turn of
phrase, would it also be tolerable to say the losers certainly
got butt fucked in that game? Or maybe a less colorful form
would be easier to stomach.. like a good rogering.

Isn't that already pretty much accepted among certain circles? I've heard pretty much every other synonym used in conversation; reamed, buggered, sodomized...

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What if you're playing a soccer match and, pre-game, one of the other team was doing some stretches and was kinda bending over and you snuck up behind him and stuck it in, just like as a harmless gag. Then you yelled "LOL - raped you!"

Would it be okay in that circumstance?

It's definitely something to think about.

I think the correct term for that is "surprise buttsex!"

2dimes wrote:I think the correct term for that is "surprise buttsex!"

No,the correct term for that would be 2 years in jail

So basically, if I jump a girl as she's unlocking her front door it is not much different to sniping her repeatedly in COD?

mrswdk wrote:So basically, if I jump a girl as she's unlocking her front door it is not much different to sniping her repeatedly in COD?

That just made me HOT.

Anarkistsdream wrote:

mrswdk wrote:So basically, if I jump a girl as she's unlocking her front door it is not much different to sniping her repeatedly in COD?

That just made me HOT.

Good luck bonding with your future girlfriend's father.