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TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:54 am
by warmonger1981
[Immortal Technique]
A new American revolution has begun
Not against the forces of a colonial kingdom
but a rebellion against an oppressor that has risen among us
It is not a foreign invasion we have to fear
rather the threat of a force within our nation
that has usurped what was once a dream of having
the greatest democracy ever known to man
We now live in a world where the population has grown exponentially
and the planet is running out of resources to sustain us all
We in the inner city and those struggling in the suburban ghettos
may not realize it yet, but make no mistake~!
The people who control the technology
and run every enterprise that makes up our world
have seen this coming for a long time
The ideas of renewable energy, global warming
the idea of collectively working
were purposefully bought out, derailed, demonized, or corrupted
in favor of an economic structure, designed by a monetary caste system
In a desperate attempt to convince us
that we need to maintain that extravagant existence
they've pretended we might share in their dream
that we can justify any inhumanity in its name
Out of this blind ignorance was born the curse of slavery
Many of the founders of this nation were themselves Masons
That is not a left-wing or a right-wing conspiracy theory
it is a widely known and accepted fact
So then explain to me how a nation founded by men
who not only understood the long and complicated history of Europe
but also that of Africa, could permeate such a lie
in convincing the American public
that one race of men was superior, and one inferior
when in fact we know that all the early men
the people who created civilization
every aspect of what we see today
the foundation of all modern human life, were from Africa
The greatest cowardice of course came
not with, slavery itself unfortunately
but with the excuses for slavery
For if America had been as brave as the Roman Empire
and all other empires that have come after her
and claimed "No we were just stronger, and that's why we took you"
then when slavery was over, racism would have probably followed in suit
But instead it was the social lie, the religious lie
that was told, that stayed in the minds of people
that separated one human being from another
in order to distract us from the issues of class and freedom
they created issues around religion and race
to dominate the world for centuries to come
Some claim, that they respect the culture of life in this country
They cry out for the indignity of children
that are slaughtered before they are born
But God has not penetrated their souls
For they have no empathy; nothing in their cold hearts
for the hundreds of thousands of lives we have taken
in our wars overseas for that which they call "collateral damage"
which are the burnt and damaged children of world
They have no prayers for them
Only snide commentary on the internet, and laughter in their hearts
And yet you claim to be one with God? Heh
We talk about immigration in this country
Might doesn't make right ladies and gentlemen
it just makes right now
What we are saying to the rest of the world
is one day when America grows weak
One day when her legions falter
on a day when her economy crumbles
China, Russia, Europe, whatever power has arisen
All you have to do is come here and conquer us in a few military excursions
and then you too can set up shop here, and in 100 years
you can tell every red-blooded American
"No! You are an illegal human being!
I am the true citizen! I have all the rights! You have no rights!"
Maybe you forgot how you got this country
Maybe you take for granted the blood, the sweat, the tears
that the people who live in practical serfdom, shed everyday
for we may not run America, but we make America run
We talk about the law; yet
how many indignities have been legal in the past?
How many treaties with Native American people have we broken?
How many international laws have we violated?
And, speaking of laws
how can a corporation be regulated by a government
that is funded and controlled by corporations?
How can there be accountability
for people who see a profit margin above the lives of Americans?
Above the lives of human beings in other countries?
We have taken the soul out of ourselves and placed them inside machines
My words, of course, will be marginalized, demonised in typical fashion
Any time you dare to question the power structure they say "You hate America"
No~! I love this country
I see its beauty everyday in its people
and I love it a lot more than those that have abandoned the American worker
that have chose to exploit and try and take away every single benefit that she has
Those that attempt to make excuses for every atrocity committed
in the name of supposed freedom
Those who demand accountability from everyone
but often none themselves
Who favor contracts over lives
Who favor invasion and control over organic democracy overseas
The greatest flaw, that any intelligent person has
is to think that they're smarter than everyone else
And so, as the government has planted its spies amongst us
we have planted our spies among them
They have infiltrated every branch of the American government
They have retrieved names, data, hard numbers, the paper trail
that will expose those that truly control this country
Those that, control the political parties
those that control the oil industry, the energy
Those that stand behind the companies - faceless
whose names have never been revealed

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:04 am
by mrswdk
You are quite correct. Socialism is the creeping threat that endangers every last thread of American society.

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:11 am
by _sabotage_
True, but his music is too raw for morning.

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:13 am
by warmonger1981
The voice of racism preaching the gospel is devilish
A fake church called the prophet Muhammad a terrorist
Forgetting God is not a religion, but a spiritual bond
And Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qu'ran
They bombed innocent people, tryin' to murder Saddam
When you gave him those chemical weapons to go to war with Iran
This is the information that they hold back from Peter Jennings
Cause Condoleeza Rice is just a new age Sally Hemmings
I break it down with critical language and spiritual anguish
The Judas I hang with, the guilt of betraying Christ
You murdered and stole his religion, and painting him white
Translated in psychologically tainted philosophy
Conservative political right wing, ideology
Glued together sloppily, the blasphemy of a nation
Got my back to the wall, cause I'm facin' assassination
Guantanamo Bay, federal incarceration
How could this be, the land of the free, home of the brave?
Indigenous holocaust, and the home of the slaves
Corporate America, dancin' offbeat to the rhythm
You don't think America never sponsored terrorism
The purpose of life is a life with a purpose
So I'd rather die for a cause than live a life that is worthless
I don't need the circus or the day of national observance
I need you to think for you and stop being a servant
Pawns only move a square in the game that they're used to
And realize it too late, like the shooting of Huey Newton
or Patrice Lumumba and Salvador Allender
Slaughtered by the power hungry branches of their own gente
Ghandi wasn't killed, by Pakistani nationals
He was assassinated by a Hindu radical
And Che Guevara rebel to a U.S. continent
was sold to the C.I.A. by Bolivian communists
Wasn't Itzhak Rabin murdered by a Zionist
and Anwar Sadat a victim of the same violence?
Malcolm X was seen as a threat to the FBI
but to blast him they used Muslims from the NOI
Even the 35th President of the Republic
was murdered by factions of his own government
So now that it's proven that a soldier of revolution
or head of an empire disguised in the constitution
cannot escape the retribution or manipulation
of the planets self appointed rulers in corporations

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:26 am
by oVo
mrswdk wrote:You are quite correct. Socialism is the creeping threat that endangers every last thread of American society.

Wrong. Socialism is no threat to America.

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:09 am
by mrswdk
oVo wrote:
mrswdk wrote:You are quite correct. Socialism is the creeping threat that endangers every last thread of American society.

Wrong. Socialism is no threat to America.


There has been plenty of discussion in this thread that would usefully inform any further posts you wish to make on the topic of America's Socialism.

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:52 am
by MeDeFe
Can we get the tl;dr version?

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:37 am
by khazalid
i was fearing the worst, but it wasnt bad, actually.

he's right too - we're fucked. now let's all hit the wine and forget about it 'til the sparks fly upwards

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:46 am
by thegreekdog
khazalid wrote:i was fearing the worst, but it wasnt bad, actually.

he's right too - we're fucked. now let's all hit the wine and forget about it 'til the sparks fly upwards


I wonder if there were other times in history where people said "we're fucked?"

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:57 am
by khazalid
quite a few, i'd imagine.

the more interesting question would be how many of them were correct!

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:02 am
by thegreekdog
khazalid wrote:quite a few, i'd imagine.

the more interesting question would be how many of them were correct!


I don't know man, we're still here so maybe none of them were correct. I guess it depends on one's definition of "fucked."

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:05 am
by 2dimes
The Romans just killed most of your friends and family's adult males and now you need to get a job instead of just farming your family land?

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:10 am
by AndyDufresne
D. None of the above?


--Andy

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:13 am
by _sabotage_
A country soon to be bankrupt after fucking the world over for fifty years, now busy denying basic rights, suggesting speaking of basic rights is a security threat, militarizing the police and TSA, while buying up millions of coffins, and billions of hollow point rounds?

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:21 am
by AndyDufresne
_sabotage_ wrote:A country soon to be bankrupt after fucking the world over for fifty years, now busy denying basic rights, suggesting speaking of basic rights is a security threat, militarizing the police and TSA, while buying up millions of coffins, and billions of hollow point rounds?

Don't worry, I'm already 3-D printing an arsenal of plastic weapons to thwart security measures. Here is my haul so far:

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--Andy

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:25 am
by _sabotage_
Civil disobedience. He who lives by the 3D printed plastic weapon dies by the 3D printed plastic weapon.

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:35 am
by thegreekdog
_sabotage_ wrote:A country soon to be bankrupt after fucking the world over for fifty years, now busy denying basic rights, suggesting speaking of basic rights is a security threat, militarizing the police and TSA, while buying up millions of coffins, and billions of hollow point rounds?


I'll list some events in the history of the United States and you tell me if you think they are worse or better than what's going on right now:

- American Revolution
- War of 1812
- American Civil War
- The Great Depression
- World War Two

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:07 am
by _sabotage_
Worse than all.

One crisis and we're scurrying like flies. We've extracted their resources for them, built them the tools to rid themselves of us and the excuse of climate change to both execute their plan and provide sufficient reason to sufficient people to execute us.

When Obama joked about predator drones, I didn't laugh.

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:11 am
by AndyDufresne
thegreekdog wrote:
_sabotage_ wrote:A country soon to be bankrupt after fucking the world over for fifty years, now busy denying basic rights, suggesting speaking of basic rights is a security threat, militarizing the police and TSA, while buying up millions of coffins, and billions of hollow point rounds?


I'll list some events in the history of the United States and you tell me if you think they are worse or better than what's going on right now:

- American Revolution [BETTER]
- War of 1812 [WORSE]
- American Civil War [BETORSE]
- The Great Depression [WORSE]
- World War Two [BETORSE]


Damn you and your multiple choice exams, TGD. Can I add some to the list for Sabotage to answer?

- American Revolution
- War of 1812
- Nat Turner's Slave Rebellion
- American Civil War
- William Henry Harrison's Administration
- The Great Depression
- World War Two
- Japanese Internment
- Monday Night Football moving to ESPN
- Red Sox Winning the World Series again


--Andy

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:16 am
by _sabotage_
We're the Japs this time, until we become the Jews.

Don't watch football unless you mean soccer.

Red Sox winning might be part of the torture, Barney only works on Iraqis.

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:30 am
by BigBallinStalin
_sabotage_ wrote:Worse than all.

One crisis and we're scurrying like flies. We've extracted their resources for them, built them the tools to rid themselves of us and the excuse of climate change to both execute their plan and provide sufficient reason to sufficient people to execute us.

When Obama joked about predator drones, I didn't laugh.


Who is 'them'?

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:49 am
by _sabotage_
Those that control our food, medicine, money, water, weapons, education, religion and freedom.

At the very top is the founder's of the UN, the too big too fail, and their top proponents.

Its not too hard, just see whichever policies are supported on both sides of the supposed spectrum and follow the money.

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:59 pm
by thegreekdog
_sabotage_ wrote:Those that control our food.


Fucking Wegmans.

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:03 pm
by Frigidus
mrswdk wrote:You are quite correct. Socialism is the creeping threat that endangers every last thread of American society.


Socialism couldn't be any more irrelevant in modern America. Name one even remotely socialist politician that isn't Bernie Sanders.

Re: TRUE OR FALSE

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:05 pm
by thegreekdog
_sabotage_ wrote:Worse than all.

One crisis and we're scurrying like flies. We've extracted their resources for them, built them the tools to rid themselves of us and the excuse of climate change to both execute their plan and provide sufficient reason to sufficient people to execute us.

When Obama joked about predator drones, I didn't laugh.


I mean, I'm just saying, the United States Civil War, for example, ended with the deaths of some 600,000 Americans. Probably worse than 8% unemployment.