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Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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mrswdk wrote:The Falklands are British. The Senkakus are Japanese. The civilized world should not allow its sovereignty to be threatened by thugs who I dislike.
saxitoxin wrote:Perhaps Argentina suffers from corruption issues and the Kirchener administration are not angels. The Malvinas Islands still need to be returned to Argentina. This is a constitutional, not a political, question. The Malvinas are Argentine and they are Argentina's to manage or mismanage as Argentina sees fit.
mrswdk wrote:The Falklands Malvinas are have British living on them.
nietzsche wrote:saxi is in love with Kirchener
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:Perhaps Argentina suffers from corruption issues and the Kirchener administration are not angels. The Malvinas Islands still need to be returned to Argentina. This is a constitutional, not a political, question. The Malvinas are Argentine and they are Argentina's to manage or mismanage as Argentina sees fit.
Dukasaur wrote:The Falklands are British, by the simple right of homestead. Only the British built a successful, self-sustaining colony there.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:Dukasaur wrote:The Falklands are British, by the simple right of homestead. Only the British built a successful, self-sustaining colony there.
Great. So you won't have any objection if, tomorrow, Russia builds a military base in Hudson Bay on the Ottawa Islands. They're uninhabited after all.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Dukasaur wrote:The Falklands are British, by the simple right of homestead. Only the British built a successful, self-sustaining colony there.
Great. So you won't have any objection if, tomorrow, Russia builds a military base in Hudson Bay on the Ottawa Islands. They're uninhabited after all.
Morally speaking, I have no objection.
Of course on strategic grounds I would oppose the move. But that is a purely pragmatic position and has nothing to do with the rights involved.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Dukasaur wrote:The Falklands are British, by the simple right of homestead. Only the British built a successful, self-sustaining colony there.
Great. So you won't have any objection if, tomorrow, Russia builds a military base in Hudson Bay on the Ottawa Islands. They're uninhabited after all.
Morally speaking, I have no objection.
Of course on strategic grounds I would oppose the move. But that is a purely pragmatic position and has nothing to do with the rights involved.
Great, so you're fine with tomorrow Russia occupying islands in Hudson's Bay and flying MiGs about and having destroyers steaming up all over the place. Then Putin's balding son will go on a party camp-out there for six months for photo opps that will run in various Russian tabloids under the headline "Sexy Dmitri Standing Down Evil Cancuks!" Then they'll send a nuclear-armed submarine into the bay and make various veiled threats to turn Toronto into glass if your fishing boats get too close. And Canadians will be banned from traveling there. However, you'll still be expected to provide mail service. Oh, and medical flights to Montreal if one of the Russians gets sick.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Dukasaur wrote:The Falklands are British, by the simple right of homestead. Only the British built a successful, self-sustaining colony there.
Great. So you won't have any objection if, tomorrow, Russia builds a military base in Hudson Bay on the Ottawa Islands. They're uninhabited after all.
Morally speaking, I have no objection.
Of course on strategic grounds I would oppose the move. But that is a purely pragmatic position and has nothing to do with the rights involved.
Great, so you're fine with tomorrow Russia occupying islands in Hudson's Bay and flying MiGs about and having destroyers steaming up all over the place. Then Putin's balding son will go on a party camp-out there for six months for photo opps that will run in various Russian tabloids under the headline "Sexy Dmitri Standing Down Evil Cancuks!" Then they'll send a nuclear-armed submarine into the bay and make various veiled threats to turn Toronto into glass if your fishing boats get too close. And Canadians will be banned from traveling there. However, you'll still be expected to provide mail service. Oh, and medical flights to Montreal if one of the Russians gets sick.
Those are precisely the pragmatic considerations I referred to.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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BigBallinStalin wrote:mrswdk wrote:The Falklands are British. The Senkakus are Japanese. The civilized world should not allow its sovereignty to be threatened by thugs who I dislike.
FTFY
mrswdk wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:mrswdk wrote:The Falklands are British. The Senkakus are Japanese. The civilized world should not allow its sovereignty to be threatened by thugs who I dislike.
FTFY
In my defence, my views on Senkaku have nothing to do with preferring Japan to China. I think both administrations are as bad as each other. I just think it's better if people make rules and stick to then, rather than taking the things they want by hitting the current owner over the head with a stick.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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mrswdk wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:mrswdk wrote:The Falklands are British. The Senkakus are Japanese. The civilized world should not allow its sovereignty to be threatened by thugs who I dislike.
FTFY
In my defence, my views on Senkaku have nothing to do with preferring Japan to China. I think both administrations are as bad as each other. I just think it's better if people make rules and stick to then, rather than taking the things they want by hitting the current owner over the head with a stick.
2dimes wrote:I was pretty neutral about the Russian Base at first, but I am starting to get disappointed it's not an actual plan.
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