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What are these people thinking?

Measles outbreak! Vaccine trutherism now officially a public health crisis

It’s back. Three years after public health officials realized that they had been preemptive in declaring that measles was eliminated in the U.S., new outbreaks of the highly infectious disease are once again cropping up in cities across the country. And it would be a mistake, epidemiologists warn, not to take this extremely seriously.

As expected, the outbreaks have caused plenty of outrage directed against Jenny McCarthy and the crowd of parents who refuse to vaccinate their children. Writing in the Daily Beast, a pediatrician using the pseudonym Russell Saunders calls it “sheer lunacy”: “Just over a dozen years ago this illness was considered eliminated in our country,” he writes, “and this year people are being hospitalized for it. All due to the hysteria about a safe, effective vaccine. All based on nothing.”

These people are freaking idiots. I feel sorry for their kids, but I wouldn't feel bad if they could somehow catch it themselves.

Jmac1026 wrote:These people are freaking idiots. I feel sorry for their kids, but I wouldn't feel bad if they could somehow catch it themselves.

They can- no vaccine is 100% efficient. That's why herd immunity is so important. One of the reasons anyway. But, yeah, you're right, they're nutjobs.

Mumps too? Jesus. I'm from a generation where (in the uk at least) most people caught measles, chickenpox, and a few other things - but even back then mumps was rare, I thought it was gone. You don't want to see what happens to adults if they get it.

jonesthecurl wrote:Mumps too? Jesus. I'm from a generation where (in the uk at least) most people caught measles, chickenpox, and a few other things - but even back then mumps was rare, I thought it was gone. You don't want to see what happens to adults if they get it.

Yup- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/19/mumps-ohio-state-outbreak_n_4988676.html?ir=College

Thanks anti-vaxxers!

Evolution...

jonesthecurl wrote:Evolution...

You'd hope, but it gets more disturbing when you realise that it hits people who can't be immunised. Apologies, this annoys me.

Symmetry wrote:

jonesthecurl wrote:Evolution...

You'd hope, but it gets more disturbing when you realise that it hits people who can't be immunised. Apologies, this annoys me.

Agreed - but by it's nature evolution isn't fair - it works on averages.

jonesthecurl wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

jonesthecurl wrote:Evolution...

You'd hope, but it gets more disturbing when you realise that it hits people who can't be immunised. Apologies, this annoys me.

Agreed - but by it's nature evolution isn't fair - it works on averages.

Fair point.

Jmac1026 wrote:These people are freaking idiots. I feel sorry for their kids, but I wouldn't feel bad if they could somehow catch it themselves.

Hey, I've Never been Vaccinated, and I'm healthier than most all of you out there Almost never get sick or go to the hospital. Kick diseases in record time too. Did have chicken pox as a kid, got over it, not worse for the wear because of it either. I'll live without vaccinations just fine And don't worry, if and epidemic comes around that your nice little vaccinations can't cover, I'm sure theres enough Antibiotics around for you guys. I won't need them.

rishaed wrote:

Jmac1026 wrote:These people are freaking idiots. I feel sorry for their kids, but I wouldn't feel bad if they could somehow catch it themselves.

Hey, I've Never been Vaccinated, and I'm healthier than most all of you out there Almost never get sick or go to the hospital. Kick diseases in record time too. Did have chicken pox as a kid, got over it, not worse for the wear because of it either. I'll live without vaccinations just fine And don't worry, if and epidemic comes around that your nice little vaccinations can't cover, I'm sure theres enough Antibiotics around for you guys. I won't need them.

Looks like you skipped over the whole "herd immunity" thing.

Trust me, you can't tough out polio. Or, y'know, you could get mumps and become infertile. That'd show 'em!

-TG

f*ck this pisses me off.

If god will save them from disease perhaps he will feed them too. I'm sure he will mend their broken bones, remove their ruptured appendices, remove their impacted teeth, etc.


A doctor in British Columbia recently advised a family she could no longer be their doctor because they wouldn't vaccinate their young children.

Shake hands with the devil.

That, however, is wrong. That's like saying "I won't treat you 'cos you smoke/drink/ski/don't eat enough salad/don't exercise/etc"

notyou2 wrote:If god will save them from disease perhaps he will feed them too. I'm sure he will mend their broken bones, remove their ruptured appendices, remove their impacted teeth, etc.


A doctor in British Columbia recently advised a family she could no longer be their doctor because they wouldn't vaccinate their young children.

Shake hands with the devil.

There's some relevant story here that I probably got wrong.

There was a big flood and a guy was sitting on top of his house. A boat came by and the captain said to the guy on top of his house, "Jump down, I'll save you." And the guy said, "No, God will save me." Then a helicopter came by and the pilot said, "Jump up, I'll save you." And the guy said, "No, God will save me." Then the guy drowned when the water came up above his roof. When the guy met God he said to God, "God, I believed in you and you didn't save me from drowning. What gives?" God said, "I sent you a boat and a helicopter."

I hate this shit too.

I would hate it more if there were less Doctors and Pharmaceutical companies trying to get my money. And I'm in Canuckistan, home of "free health care."

I had a cold that wouldn't go away. I went to my doctor. He was on vacation. There was a young lady doctor filling in. I won't lie she was smoking hot and I had impure thoughts. Then I did not like her anymore because she said, "I think you have asthma. Here is a sample puffer. If it works I will prescribe one for you every three months."

I know what asthma is so I switched Doctors. If I did not know what asthma was and the puffer helped my cold I would possibly be using asthma medication like my wife who actually has asthma.

I don't care if you and people with a lot of "education" think I need to buy a inhaler so that you don't catch the mumps.

My kids both have been immunized for what ever the clinics here are giving shots for including the Pamplona virus in the case of the one with a cervix.

Oddly enough my "asthma" went away. The new doctor sent me for a chest x-ray to make sure it was not pneumonia. I guess sweet tits never heard of that one or did not get taken out for lunch by the pneumonia prevention drug company.

jonesthecurl wrote:That, however, is wrong. That's like saying "I won't treat you 'cos you smoke/drink/ski/don't eat enough salad/don't exercise/etc"

I agree it's wrong, but the doctor took a stand, possibly against her Hippocratic oath.

I can understand this position. Any GP practice that deals with kids isn't going to want kids with measles or mumps in their waiting room while babies are coming in for check-ups. As has been proven over and over, refusing MMR vaccinations is a matter of public safety.