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Japan Bans Child Porn

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:22 pm
by saxitoxin
Japan has finally made the possession of child pornography a punishable offense.

The country's upper house of parliament passed a bill Wednesday, which will see people found with explicit images of children jailed for up to year or fined up to $10,000.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/17/world/asi ... ?hpt=hp_t2

Re: Japan Bans Child Porn

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:30 pm
by macbone
Except for anime and manga, apparently.

The bill notably excludes the possession of explicit anime or manga, a point of contention for campaigners who say that cartoons depicting child sexual abuse should also be banned.

Representatives of those industries say that while they support the ban on real child pornography, any move to censor their products would be an unjustified restriction of freedom of expression.

Daisuke Okeda, a lawyer and inspector for the Japan Animation Creators Association, said it was "natural that animation is exempted."

Re: Japan Bans Child Porn

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:58 pm
by Army of GOD
And Japan finds a way to keep the world lead in highest suicide rate.

Re: Japan Bans Child Porn

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:05 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Army of GOD wrote:And Japan finds a way to keep the world lead in highest suicide rate.

Ever seen any of the documentaries on Japan's "Suicide Forest"? Yeah, seems you can't go more than a few hundred feet without finding evidence of a suicide or a failed attempt at it. I believe it's the forest at the base of Mt. Fuji, if I remember right.

Re: Japan Bans Child Porn

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:16 pm
by Jmac1026
macbone wrote:Except for anime and manga, apparently.

The bill notably excludes the possession of explicit anime or manga, a point of contention for campaigners who say that cartoons depicting child sexual abuse should also be banned.

Representatives of those industries say that while they support the ban on real child pornography, any move to censor their products would be an unjustified restriction of freedom of expression.

Daisuke Okeda, a lawyer and inspector for the Japan Animation Creators Association, said it was "natural that animation is exempted."

Yeah, Anime/Manga is pretty big on that stuff in a lot of areas. Its actually interesting: There have been studies that provide a link between animated child porn and pedophiles. That is, an inverse relationship. Areas that legalize "underage" drawn porn have lower rates of minors being abused.

Re: Japan Bans Child Porn

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:47 pm
by mrswdk
Jmac1206 wrote:Areas that legalize "underage" drawn porn have lower rates of minors being abused.


If only more Japanese cartoonists would draw Japanese politicians denying their country's war crimes, then maybe that would happen less as well.

Re: Japan Bans Child Porn

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:41 pm
by notyou2
mrswdk wrote:
Jmac1206 wrote:Areas that legalize "underage" drawn porn have lower rates of minors being abused.


If only more Japanese cartoonists would draw Japanese politicians denying their country's war crimes, then maybe that would happen less as well.


Wrong thread.

Re: Japan Bans Child Porn

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:38 pm
by DaGip
notyou2 wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
Jmac1206 wrote:Areas that legalize "underage" drawn porn have lower rates of minors being abused.


If only more Japanese cartoonists would draw Japanese politicians denying their country's war crimes, then maybe that would happen less as well.


Wrong thread.


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Anime has lots of cannibalistic demons in their shows, maybe that's their way of telling us how good our grandpas all tasted.

"...the Japanese started selecting prisoners and every day one prisoner was taken out and killed and eaten by the soldiers. I personally saw this happen and about 100 prisoners were eaten at this place by the Japanese. The remainder of us were taken to another spot 50 miles [80 km] away where 10 prisoners died of sickness. At this place, the Japanese again started selecting prisoners to eat. Those selected were taken to a hut where their flesh was cut from their bodies while they were alive and they were thrown into a ditch where they later died." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes

Re: Japan Bans Child Porn

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:10 pm
by macbone
Jmac1026 wrote:
macbone wrote:Except for anime and manga, apparently.

The bill notably excludes the possession of explicit anime or manga, a point of contention for campaigners who say that cartoons depicting child sexual abuse should also be banned.

Representatives of those industries say that while they support the ban on real child pornography, any move to censor their products would be an unjustified restriction of freedom of expression.

Daisuke Okeda, a lawyer and inspector for the Japan Animation Creators Association, said it was "natural that animation is exempted."

Yeah, Anime/Manga is pretty big on that stuff in a lot of areas. Its actually interesting: There have been studies that provide a link between animated child porn and pedophiles. That is, an inverse relationship. Areas that legalize "underage" drawn porn have lower rates of minors being abused.


Do you have links for this, jmac? I searched, but I didn't find anything like this. It seems that studies are divided on whether access to porn is related to child abuse, and the Supreme Court didn't find the studies that found a direct relationship to be compelling enough. Besides Japan, what other countries have animated child porn? Wikipedia cites a 1984 study from the Canadian government that claims there's a link between animated child porn and child abuse, the Bagdley Report, but it only looks at Canada.

I know the rate of child sexual abuse in Africa and the US is out of control, and in the US, at least, child porn is illegal, although in 2002, the Supreme Court struck down a ban on drawings and animation.

As for Japan, child abuse has skyrocketed in recent years, although it seems to be mainly mental and physical but not sexual.

Figures from Japan's Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare show the cases of reported child abuse have quadrupled in 10 years and increased 40 fold in twenty years. In 1990, the ministry recorded 1,101 cases of abuse. In 1999, 11,631. In 2000, 17,725 cases. And in 2009, the numbers hit an all-time high of 44,211.

The causes behind the numbers are multifaceted. One reason is that abuse cases are being reported more accurately. In 2000, when the number of cases jumped, a national law went into effect mandating the reporting of child abuse and neglect cases.

...

"The world's image is that Japan is kind to its children," says Hamazaki, pausing as she looks at the children around her. "But the image does not match reality."


http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiap ... ild.abuse/

Here's an abstract of a 2006 study that looks at child sexual abuse in Japan: Japanese Childhood Victims of Sexual Abuse and their Social Perceptions: Comparisons with Children in Germany, Greece and the USA

Empirical Japanese studies of childhood sexual abuse are rare. The few studies that do exist are mostly case studies involving low numbers of respondents. These are usually highly subjective, mostly legal or psychiatric in orientation and cannot be generalized to the Japanese population. In Japan this topic is often avoided as unpleasant; consequently, it is not discussed in conversation and not investigated in research.


A representative sample of 665 Japanese college students were asked to anonymously evaluate their childhood sexual activities using the large 41-question instrument. The findings suggested a significant distortion of social perceptions by victims of sexual abuse, especially victims of exhibitionism, concerning their estimation of similar experiences of like-gender and like-aged children. One of the surprising findings was the low incidence of these experiences in Japan compared to some of the other countries surveyed earlier. It is clear that significant long-term effects on these victims were evident as a result of their victimizations.


Japan has one of the lowest ages of consent for sexual activity in the world at 13: http://books.google.com.hk/books?id=V1r ... an&f=false

So yeah, that seems to support your assertion, but it's also clear that child abuse in general is on the rise in Japan.

Re: Japan Bans Child Porn

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:27 pm
by muy_thaiguy
DaGip wrote:
notyou2 wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
Jmac1206 wrote:Areas that legalize "underage" drawn porn have lower rates of minors being abused.


If only more Japanese cartoonists would draw Japanese politicians denying their country's war crimes, then maybe that would happen less as well.


Wrong thread.


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Anime has lots of cannibalistic demons in their shows, maybe that's their way of telling us how good our grandpas all tasted.


How much anime/manga have you watched/read? Because maybe 1 or 2 genres would actually have a chance of having something like that, and even then, such things are rare. I can name off a dozen seperate anime titles and a dozen seperate manga titles that don't even come close to that off the top of my head, as could anyone that watches it.