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Is USA going to be a repeat of HK?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:02 pm
by mrswdk
So apparently the voters of America are promised true universal suffrage but instead are offered the choice of a narrow selection of candidates, all of whom represent the same two political parties and who have first been approved by the nation's elite (political leaders, big business etc.) before being out forward for elections.

When will the corrupt authoritarian rulers of America listen to the people and give then a real democratic choice, the freedom to choose whom they want to see in charge and not just their favorite of the elite's lackeys?

When will American police finally allow protestors to occupy the financial heart of New York and obstruct the business of others, or even just to peacefully protest police brutality when gross abuses are committed, without forcefully removing and even arresting said protestors?

Re: Is USA going to be a repeat of HK?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:47 pm
by tzor
mrswdk wrote:So apparently the voters of America are promised true universal suffrage but instead are offered the choice of a narrow selection of candidates, all of whom represent the same two political parties and who have first been approved by the nation's elite (political leaders, big business etc.) before being out forward for elections.


Absolute and total BS. Sorry to say that, but it is true. Washington D.C. has absolutely no say nor vetting process on who gets to run for Governors of states or Mayors of cities. The general process one uses to get on the ballot is the petition process whereby you need a certain number of signatures to get on the ballot. New York, which has the ability to allow a person to be listed on more than one line in the ballot, has the following political parties in effect.

Conservative Party*
Democratic Party*
Green Party*
Independence Party*
Republican Party*

(Yes it is kind of funny, if you are "independent" you are actually registered to the Independence Party. If you are not registered to any party you are a "Blank.")

I believe there are also two more lines this year, "Women's Equality" and "Stop Common Core."

Re: Is USA going to be a repeat of HK?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:39 pm
by notyou2
Success mrswdk.

Re: Is USA going to be a repeat of HK?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:18 pm
by mrswdk
tzor wrote:
mrswdk wrote:So apparently the voters of America are promised true universal suffrage but instead are offered the choice of a narrow selection of candidates, all of whom represent the same two political parties and who have first been approved by the nation's elite (political leaders, big business etc.) before being out forward for elections.


Absolute and total BS. Sorry to say that, but it is true. Washington D.C. has absolutely no say nor vetting process on who gets to run for Governors of states or Mayors of cities. The general process one uses to get on the ballot is the petition process whereby you need a certain number of signatures to get on the ballot. New York, which has the ability to allow a person to be listed on more than one line in the ballot, has the following political parties in effect.

Conservative Party*
Democratic Party*
Green Party*
Independence Party*
Republican Party*

(Yes it is kind of funny, if you are "independent" you are actually registered to the Independence Party. If you are not registered to any party you are a "Blank.")

I believe there are also two more lines this year, "Women's Equality" and "Stop Common Core."


I was talking about those in Congress and the Senate (the ones who actually make the laws and run the country). Forgive me if I find the presence of 5 parties on the ballot paper for the election of one person in one city in the whole of the US a little non-conclusive.

Re: Is USA going to be a repeat of HK?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:27 pm
by tzor
mrswdk wrote:I was talking about those in Congress and the Senate (the ones who actually make the laws and run the country). Forgive me if I find the presence of 5 parties on the ballot paper for the election of one person in one city in the whole of the US a little non-conclusive.


Why do you compare the Apple and the Orange? Why do you mix two different things?

US Congress / Senate should be compared to National People's Congress.

Re: Is USA going to be a repeat of HK?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:58 pm
by mrswdk
The CEO of Hong Kong has control over absolutely everything except defense and foreign policy. He is not comparable to an American city mayor.