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Betiko responds to some book France is discussing

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:52 am
by AndyDufresne
http://www.npr.org/2014/11/05/361790018 ... nt-all-bad

...In a nutshell, Zemmour says France is in decline because its traditional values — nation, family — have been destroyed over the past 40 years and replaced by a feminist, pro-gay, egalitarian agenda imposed on the country by left-wing elites. And, he says, the country has been undermined by successive waves of Muslim immigration.

"France today is suffering from a spiritual and an identity crisis," he tells NPR. "Plus we've been subjected to massive immigration — Muslims who reject our culture. So the French feel overwhelmed and they don't recognize themselves or their country anymore" ...

...Of all Zemmour's theories, the one that's rattled people the most is his view of France's World War II collaborationist government in Vichy. Zemmour, who is Jewish, argues that by first deporting foreign Jews to Germany's death camps, Vichy actually helped save French Jews. That assertion has provoked a firestorm of criticism from people who say it was ordinary French citizens who saved Jews, not Vichy.

Zemmour's claim revolves around the seminal 1970s work of American historian Robert Paxton, whose study of Vichy helped France come to terms with its wartime past. Zemmour says Paxton's thesis that Vichy was all-guilty is wrong because the regime wasn't so black and white.

"I felt compelled to include this in the book," he says, "because guilt over Vichy lies at the very heart of French self-loathing, even today. ... Every time we want to send illegal immigrants back, the elites scream that it smacks of Vichy. If we encourage foreigners to assimilate, we're accused of colonialism and Vichy. It always comes back to Vichy" ...


Betiko, it is your duty.


--Andy

Re: Betiko responds to some book France is discussing

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:39 pm
by betiko
Blah blah blah. Zemmour can kiss my left buttcheak for all I know. And the freaking media shouldn t invite him that often. This guy is just openly a french pimpdave selling books.

Re: Betiko responds to some book France is discussing

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:44 pm
by notyou2
All societies change overtime. It is natural for people to resist change.

Then you have the people that not only resist change, they try to turn back the clock.

Re: Betiko responds to some book France is discussing

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:09 pm
by Serbia
betiko wrote:a french pimpdave

I don't think this is possible.

Bollocks.

Re: Betiko responds to some book France is discussing

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:14 pm
by AndyDufresne
Serbia wrote:
betiko wrote:a french pimpdave

I don't think this is possible.

Bollocks.

I am not sure, I like this phrase a descriptor. I totally understand it.


--Andy