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Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:00 am
by DaGip
What's the big deal anyway? You'd probably have MORE freedom under Russian dictatorship than living in the West or the USA. It's certainly a better alternative to killing off all life on the planet. Or maybe you'd rather join China?

Those seem to be your only two choices: Russia or China.

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:52 am
by notyou2
Russia is twice as popular as China. Take the Mrs. WDK

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:16 pm
by betiko
notyou2 wrote:Russia is twice as popular as China. Take the Mrs. WDK


three times now! nobody likes china!!!

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:06 pm
by rishaed
Can i vote for my own little private dictatorship?
PleaaasE?!
It'll only be around the size of the former state of Kentucky :D

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:49 pm
by GoranZ
DaGip wrote:You'd probably have MORE freedom under Russian dictatorship than living in the West or the USA

Where is your right for privacy more brutally broken... In USA or in Russia/China?

DaGip wrote:Those seem to be your only two choices: Russia or China.

Huh... How about both?

Side note... Putin had a speech in German parliament in 2001 about economic zone spreading from the shores of the Atlantic up to the shores of the Pacific Ocean... Similar dreams had other European politicians, but I guess that will never be fulfilled without use of weapons now.

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:56 pm
by betiko
GoranZ wrote:
DaGip wrote:You'd probably have MORE freedom under Russian dictatorship than living in the West or the USA

Where is your right for privacy more brutally broken... In USA or in Russia/China?

DaGip wrote:Those seem to be your only two choices: Russia or China.

Huh... How about both?

Side note... Putin had a speech in German parliament in 2001 about economic zone spreading from the shores of the Atlantic up to the shores of the Pacific Ocean... Similar dreams had other European politicians, but I guess that will never be fulfilled without use of weapons now.


France already spreads from the atlantic to the indian, to the antartic, to the pacific ocean. Suck it up putin!

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:03 pm
by GoranZ
betiko wrote:
GoranZ wrote:Side note... Putin had a speech in German parliament in 2001 about economic zone spreading from the shores of the Atlantic up to the shores of the Pacific Ocean... Similar dreams had other European politicians, but I guess that will never be fulfilled without use of weapons now.


France already spreads from the atlantic to the indian, to the antartic, to the pacific ocean. Suck it up putin!

Yea rite... with pixel size territories :lol:

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:39 pm
by DaGip
GoranZ wrote:
DaGip wrote:You'd probably have MORE freedom under Russian dictatorship than living in the West or the USA

Where is your right for privacy more brutally broken... In USA or in Russia/China?

DaGip wrote:Those seem to be your only two choices: Russia or China.

Huh... How about both?

Side note... Putin had a speech in German parliament in 2001 about economic zone spreading from the shores of the Atlantic up to the shores of the Pacific Ocean... Similar dreams had other European politicians, but I guess that will never be fulfilled without use of weapons now.


Well, let's see...I don't think Russia or China collect ALL MY FUCKING META DATA AND CAN USE IT ON A WHIM! That seems pretty brutal and over the top. Sure, nobody's breaking in the front door and electrocuting my testicles; but we do have the TSA that seem to want to feel me up every time I want to fly on a fucking airplane now.

And you can't choose both. China and Russia are not the same country...duh!

(and is mrswdk the only one voting for China????)

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:47 pm
by betiko
GoranZ wrote:
betiko wrote:
GoranZ wrote:Side note... Putin had a speech in German parliament in 2001 about economic zone spreading from the shores of the Atlantic up to the shores of the Pacific Ocean... Similar dreams had other European politicians, but I guess that will never be fulfilled without use of weapons now.


France already spreads from the atlantic to the indian, to the antartic, to the pacific ocean. Suck it up putin!

Yea rite... with pixel size territories :lol:


people fight over pixel size territories, look what china vs japan or japan vs korea, or spain vs uk or spain vs morocco are doing now a days. It's pretty strategic to be everywhere. Or the malwines/falkland islands in the 80s...
European france is 640 000 square KM; while all it's territories outside of europe totalize 550 000 square KM. France has the second largest maritime territory in the world after the US.
The metropolitan population is 66,6 millions while the outer european population on its territories is only 2,7 millions though.

And as far as I know you come from a pixel size country goran! ;) 25 000 square kilometers, that's 3,5 times smaller than French Guyana alone...

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:03 pm
by GoranZ
betiko wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
betiko wrote:
GoranZ wrote:Side note... Putin had a speech in German parliament in 2001 about economic zone spreading from the shores of the Atlantic up to the shores of the Pacific Ocean... Similar dreams had other European politicians, but I guess that will never be fulfilled without use of weapons now.


France already spreads from the atlantic to the indian, to the antartic, to the pacific ocean. Suck it up putin!

Yea rite... with pixel size territories :lol:


people fight over pixel size territories, look what china vs japan or japan vs korea, or spain vs uk or spain vs morocco are doing now a days. It's pretty strategic to be everywhere. Or the malwines/falkland islands in the 80s...
European france is 640 000 square KM; while all it's territories outside of europe totalize 550 000 square KM. France has the second largest maritime territory in the world after the US.
The metropolitan population is 66,6 millions while the outer european population on its territories is only 2,7 millions though.

Most of those territories are leftovers from the time when France considered it self as Empire and judging from the past those territories will peacefully leave France over time. Nothing similar to Putin's speech in the German parliament ;)

betiko wrote:And as far as I know you come from a pixel size country goran! ;) 25 000 square kilometers, that's 3,5 times smaller than French Guyana alone...

Although small we are very bright pixel :P

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:11 pm
by betiko
well I'm talking about 2014 facts and reality (and a reality that is several centuries old). All these territories are french, with different levels of autonomy. What you are talking about is putin's wet dream, not a reality. Given how bad the international scene took his advancings into crimea, if he wants to reach the atlantic he'd rather go through the black sea or the baltic sea.

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:40 pm
by saxitoxin
betiko wrote:well I'm talking about 2014 facts and reality (and a reality that is several centuries old). All these territories are french, with different levels of autonomy. What you are talking about is putin's wet dream, not a reality. Given how bad the international scene took his advancings into crimea, if he wants to reach the atlantic he'd rather go through the black sea or the baltic sea.


Putin sent a tugboat to Australia and the Australians almost shit themselves. Frankly, the way things are going, he could probably capture Paris with just these guys ...

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Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:42 pm
by betiko
So let s just poison putin! I don t want any tugboat reaching the Seine!

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:59 pm
by GoranZ
saxitoxin wrote:
betiko wrote:well I'm talking about 2014 facts and reality (and a reality that is several centuries old). All these territories are french, with different levels of autonomy. What you are talking about is putin's wet dream, not a reality. Given how bad the international scene took his advancings into crimea, if he wants to reach the atlantic he'd rather go through the black sea or the baltic sea.


Putin sent a tugboat to Australia and the Australians almost shit themselves. Frankly, the way things are going, he could probably capture Paris with just these guys ...

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You give Russians 3 days to capture Paris :o, maybe if you include 48 hours for the Russians to get sober and announce their achievement.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:50 pm
by betiko
Actually france has built 2 helicopter carriers for russia that were ordered in 2011. They are now ready but france is in a diplomatic shit... They say they won t deliver the boats now given the geopolitical context of 2014, but they don t really want to sit on the 1,2 billion € russia is supposed to pay for them. Russia is now threatening france not to pay the full contracts if they don t deliver the boats in the next month. France would really get in trouble with all the good guys (EU+USA).
I think we should just sell them to Australia so they take care of those russian tugboats terrorizing locals.

Ps; here is something a bit more factual than your blog written by a teen with greasy skin problems:
http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles/ ... tories.asp

And secondly, it really cracks me up that someone coming from one of the most insignificant countries possible (no alexander the great stories please, the actual macedonia has nothing to do with the ancient greece macedonia) would even try to make fun of france.

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:13 pm
by saxitoxin
betiko wrote:And secondly, it really cracks me up that someone coming from one of the most insignificant countries possible


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Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:57 pm
by betiko
saxitoxin wrote:
betiko wrote:And secondly, it really cracks me up that someone coming from one of the most insignificant countries possible


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What are they good at exactly? Apart from worshiping russian? :twisted:
At least the other ex yougoslavian republics are good in sports.

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:44 pm
by nietzsche
Their flag is kind of cool.

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:16 pm
by GoranZ
betiko wrote:What are they good at exactly? Apart from worshiping russian? :twisted:

worshiping russian?... I dont think that we worship Russians, but we hate puppets(like current Ukrainian government). Although economically not hating the Russians does open huge doors for small country like us. When it comes to France you guys are only capable of doing a tiny fraction of what you think you are able to. As in the saying "Dog that barks doesn't bite".
And we definitely dont like French(French politicians are generally anti-Macedonian so that doesn't give us a lot of room for love).

betiko wrote:At least the other ex yougoslavian republics are good in sports.

All ex yougoslavian republics are generaly good in sports.

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:43 am
by betiko
lol. Opening huge doors to russia given what putin is doing lately isn't the best way to see yourself as truely independant and autonomous. You are just being putin's bitch. So yeah, I understand that you guys need it given that you are one of europe's poorest and smallest countries, no need to denigrate ukranians.
And yes, EU isn't capable of much as we have very little leverage over Russia, and they don't give a f*ck of whatever we say as they are obviously a very powerful country. Doesn't mean we can't take positions against them. The 2 warships we have to deliver are a good example. Should we stay firm on our positions and ruin the economy of our ship building sector to make a point? Should we deliver warships to a country that is expanding everywhere around the black sea by force?
If you see france as anti macedonians, it's clearly because you position yourselves as russian bitches, just like the serbians.

GoranZ wrote:
betiko wrote:At least the other ex yougoslavian republics are good in sports.

All ex yougoslavian republics are generaly good in sports.


what are macedonians and kosovars (oh yeah, kossovars have 3 good football players who became swiss playing for their national team) good at? You can't take credit for serbian, croatian, montenegran, bosnian and slovenian successes.

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:43 am
by smegal69
not only the Dog not bite, but had it's balls removed many years ago, not sure if it ever cock it leg too

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:47 am
by betiko
smegal69 wrote:not only the Dog not bite, but had it's balls removed many years ago, not sure if it ever cock it leg too


hey I forgot how important new zealand is in the international political scene! I didn't know germs could bark! ;)

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:39 am
by saxitoxin
Macedonians are all very beautiful and attractive, above average.

But they wear some strange fucking hats.

Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:42 am
by betiko
saxitoxin wrote:Macedonians are all very beautiful and attractive, above average.

But they wear some strange fucking hats.


yeah i've been told they've been wearing those for centuries!

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Re: Should we just Join Russia?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:43 am
by mrswdk
Why the fuckity hell would you guys choose Russia instead of China? I'll tell you: you're all a bunch of racists, chumming up to the white guy. Probably because you are intimidated by the cultural superiority of the Chinese civilization state as compared to your degenerate failed empires.

China will be twice the size of the US within all of your lifetimes. Might as well learn how to use chopsticks sooner rather than later, bitches!