Conquer Club

Is it in the states best interest to keep the people uneducated and practicing moronism?

Yes.

It's what Moses and the other Founding Fathers would have wanted.

It seems people are getting dumber. Or perhaps, social media has simply brought them to the forefront.

Shickingbrits, is the government deliberately doinga poor job educating the populous so they can be more easily manipulated?

Maybe it's the fluoride, or the little plastic pellets in the toothpaste?

I first thought this topic said State Back Mormonism.


--Andy

AndyDufresne wrote:I first thought this topic said State Back Mormonism.


--Andy

Stop being a moron Andy. Git you sum edumacation.

I'm assuming that this is a parody thread about me.

You would have to look at the governing principles of education. From the state's perspective, what does it mean to educate the masses?

It's been a while since I've done any research on this, so I will go from memory and link upon request.

The primary goal of education is to provide a platform upon which the government may govern. They say the pledge of allegiance was a way to sell more flags, but that is ridiculous. One of the primary roles of education is to provide the government with unquestionable moral authority. It attempts to create a norm and fear of deviating from the norm.

To be educated is to learn to sit still, do as you're told as you were told to do it. Creativity is only desirable in fixed amounts and towards fixed ends. What we have been seeing more recently in education is the unwashable stamp of condemnation. The prison pipeline where students who are caught with an untucked shirt are fined and face criminal charges is an extreme example, but their stamp in lesser cases is still more pervasive than ever.

Some of the founding ideas we have about education, which were embedded into Unesco, are deliberate attempts to create people who could only question within fixed parameters. To do so, it is necessary to literally teach people to be idiots, to be compliant but only along certain directed lines, to repeat and to resist alternate indoctrination.

While these are all valid concerns for a government to have about their future generation, it is not what most people imagine the word "learn" to mean. And as a person, not a government, it's complete bullshit. We are literally raising people to do nothing. We don't want them to do anything, especially be able to take care of themselves. Their sole function in society is to be there.

I spent years learning to do nothing. I remember the first chemistry paper I wrote at uni. We each did an experiment on the iron content of an antacid, and then wrote it up in a long ass report. We were never told what the report should look like, or anything. Just given a 2 minute briefing on it after the briefing on how to do the experiment and equations we would need and they said see you later.
My data was fine, but I used the wrong margin, well I used the right margin and then used a normal margin off it. In short, due to formatting, I got a D. So the content and experiment, which they gave me full marks for, wasn't worth very much.

As a student paying to learn, I don't think I got my money's worth. I only wrote one more chemistry paper, in the next term, and never took it again, and have never made any use of it. Chemistry had three midterms and a final, apart from the lab section. Every three weeks or so, we brought a cheat sheet and sat a multiple choice test. Those two terms of chemistry weren't cheap. I didn't take anything away, except two Bs.

How about the stuff I use in my daily job? No, not really. Being able to sit at a desk for extended periods helps. Otherwise, besides rather basic math skills and being able to read and write, I think given the chance most people would be able to figure out my job in about as much time as I did without spending 4 years and lots of money. They just wouldn't be given the chance.

But then I didn't get my education for my job, I got it for me. Does it make me feel smarter? No. Does it create more independent opportunity? Slightly, but mainly because of social norms.

When my son is 18, I would like him to be able to be able to take care of himself. By That I mean have his own place that he can take care of at zero cost, be able to take care of his other wants at low to zero cost and be able to use math, be literate and be social-able.

I have already bought land for him and will build his place with him as he grows. I have begun a food forest on it for him and will incorporate as self sufficient technology as is available when we build it.

shickingbrits wrote:I'm assuming that this is a parody thread about me.

You don't get out much, do you?

The word of the day is social anxiety.

When his second post called me out in particular, I got the gist.

Currently got bronchitis so haven't been out since Friday.

Blame it on reality shows.
It is crazy that so many people love reality shows.
I just seen some video's on the Ferguson episode, about as moronic as it gets... got to love it

shickingbrits wrote:When his second post called me out in particular, I got the gist.

Currently got bronchitis so haven't been out since Friday.

It wasn't a parody thread about you, but after reading some of your other posts in other threads and you seem to be on the cutting edge of alternative beliefs, I thought I would ask you a couple of direct questions, which you kindly answered. I think.

The intent of the thread is for anyone to air their conspiracy theories. Let it all out. Make yourself fell better.

Seriously, is it in the best interest of the state to educate the masses or does this interfere with their manipulation of the masses?

If anyone wants to make it about mormonism (Andy) please feel free to post thoughts along those lines as well.

notyou2 wrote:If anyone wants to make it about mormonism (Andy) please feel free to post thoughts along those lines as well.

Moronism/Mormonism.
What's the difference, Isn't it one in the same?

notyou2 wrote:Is it in the states best interest to keep the people uneducated and practicing moronism?

oh, i thought this was going to be a great thread about MORMONISM... i thought we'd get optimusprime and Night Strike to come out of the wood works!! well, this pretty much says the same thing as i thought... the black jesus has spoken and i am not a friend of mr. smith's...-Jésus noir

p.s.-the "endless celestial sex does sound good!!
but i can't get down with the black negativity

Do you think it would have helped the neocons plans if they presented the war in Iraq as:

After selling chemical weapons to Iraq, using money we got from a fake drug war in Columbia, where we took their coke by death squads and sold it to our own citizens, and pitting Saddam against Iran who we were selling planes to after we had lead a coup there, we went to war against him after we gave him permission to invade Kuwait and have since been starving his population, killing two million of his people including half a million kids, he has increased his production of oil, bringing down the price and as such threatens our petrodollar and some of the profits of the presidents buddies, meanwhile our military industrial complex would prefer a lot more profit, so can we attack?

If it wouldn't help, then I suggest we don't educate the masses if we wish to let the government manipulate them.

shickingbrits wrote:Do you think it would have helped the neocons plans if they presented the war in Iraq as:

After selling chemical weapons to Iraq, using money we got from a fake drug war in Columbia, where we took their coke by death squads and sold it to our own citizens, and pitting Saddam against Iran who we were selling planes to after we had lead a coup there, we went to war against him after we gave him permission to invade Kuwait and have since been starving his population, killing two million of his people including half a million kids, he has increased his production of oil, bringing down the price and as such threatens our petrodollar and some of the profits of the presidents buddies, meanwhile our military industrial complex would prefer a lot more profit, so can we attack?

If it wouldn't help, then I suggest we don't educate the masses if we wish to let the government manipulate them.

What does this have to do with mormonism?!!-Jésus noir aka Son of Cain

owenshooter wrote:

shickingbrits wrote:Do you think it would have helped the neocons plans if they presented the war in Iraq as:

After selling chemical weapons to Iraq, using money we got from a fake drug war in Columbia, where we took their coke by death squads and sold it to our own citizens, and pitting Saddam against Iran who we were selling planes to after we had lead a coup there, we went to war against him after we gave him permission to invade Kuwait and have since been starving his population, killing two million of his people including half a million kids, he has increased his production of oil, bringing down the price and as such threatens our petrodollar and some of the profits of the presidents buddies, meanwhile our military industrial complex would prefer a lot more profit, so can we attack?

If it wouldn't help, then I suggest we don't educate the masses if we wish to let the government manipulate them.

What does this have to do with mormonism?!!-Jésus noir aka Son of Cain

Our curse is better then their curse...we win!

owenshooter wrote:

shickingbrits wrote:Do you think it would have helped the neocons plans if they presented the war in Iraq as:

After selling chemical weapons to Iraq, using money we got from a fake drug war in Columbia, where we took their coke by death squads and sold it to our own citizens, and pitting Saddam against Iran who we were selling planes to after we had lead a coup there, we went to war against him after we gave him permission to invade Kuwait and have since been starving his population, killing two million of his people including half a million kids, he has increased his production of oil, bringing down the price and as such threatens our petrodollar and some of the profits of the presidents buddies, meanwhile our military industrial complex would prefer a lot more profit, so can we attack?

If it wouldn't help, then I suggest we don't educate the masses if we wish to let the government manipulate them.

What does this have to do with mormonism?!!-Jésus noir aka Son of Cain

Romney supported the war?

shickingbrits wrote:

owenshooter wrote:

shickingbrits wrote:Do you think it would have helped the neocons plans if they presented the war in Iraq as:

After selling chemical weapons to Iraq, using money we got from a fake drug war in Columbia, where we took their coke by death squads and sold it to our own citizens, and pitting Saddam against Iran who we were selling planes to after we had lead a coup there, we went to war against him after we gave him permission to invade Kuwait and have since been starving his population, killing two million of his people including half a million kids, he has increased his production of oil, bringing down the price and as such threatens our petrodollar and some of the profits of the presidents buddies, meanwhile our military industrial complex would prefer a lot more profit, so can we attack?

If it wouldn't help, then I suggest we don't educate the masses if we wish to let the government manipulate them.

What does this have to do with mormonism?!!-Jésus noir aka Son of Cain

Romney supported the war?

he won't even say that the church was wrong for their racist teachings... ha!!! he supports the war on black people!!!-Jésus noir

shickingbrits wrote:Do you think it would have helped the neocons plans if they presented the war in Iraq as:

After selling chemical weapons to Iraq, using money we got from a fake drug war in Columbia, where we took their coke by death squads and sold it to our own citizens, and pitting Saddam against Iran who we were selling planes to after we had lead a coup there, we went to war against him after we gave him permission to invade Kuwait and have since been starving his population, killing two million of his people including half a million kids, he has increased his production of oil, bringing down the price and as such threatens our petrodollar and some of the profits of the presidents buddies, meanwhile our military industrial complex would prefer a lot more profit, so can we attack?

If it wouldn't help, then I suggest we don't educate the masses if we wish to let the government manipulate them.

So your saying the state would be better able to manipulate the masses if the masses are less educated. Then why is the state educating the masses and seems to want to educate them to the best of it's ability?

Sorry to ask you to prove that statement.

Where I live the state spends a great deal of money on the education system. In fact, it is the second highest provincial expenditure after health care.

I have a friend who spends a great deal repairing his car, does that prove it's good?

Sorry, but I'm going to need something more than it costs a lot so it must be good, because all that means to me is that the government pays it's marketing agents well.

Dewey ruined education.

Alright then. Let's discuss the holy Mormon underwear.

Anyone have any pics of holy Mormon underwear?