Conquer Club

BigBallinStalin wrote:Haha, I like how "standing up for their rights" = "burning and looting the property of innocent people."

mrswdk wrote:Anti-establishment riots all over America, the people standing up for their rights in the face of their repressive government, American Spring, time for sanctions and a no-fly zone??

BigBallinStalin wrote:Haha, I like how "standing up for their rights" = "burning and looting the property of innocent people."

Phatscotty wrote:

mrswdk wrote:Anti-establishment riots all over America, the people standing up for their rights in the face of their repressive government, American Spring, time for sanctions and a no-fly zone??

WASHINGTON (February 20) – Vice President Joe Biden and Attorney General Eric Holder today awarded the Public Safety Officer Medal of Valor to 18 public safety officers who exhibited exceptional courage in saving and protecting others and whose heroic actions were above and beyond the call of duty.

Including today’s awardees, a total of 78 medals have been presented since the first recipients were honored in 2003.
https://www.bja.gov/Events/MOV_PR_02-20-13.pdf

The Public Safety Officer Medal of Valor is the highest decoration for bravery exhibited by public safety officers in the United States, comparable to the military's Medal of Honor. The original Medal of Valor was established on June 29, 2000 by President Bill Clinton with his issuance of Executive Order 13161 and was originally called the Presidential Medal of Valor for Public Safety Officers. Before the establishment of the Medal of Valor, there were no Federal awards to specifically acknowledge the bravery performed by public safety officers throughout the United States; police and firefighting departments typically award their members medals at a state or local government level. The establishment of the Medal of Valor filled a void in the civilian decorations system of the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:S ... alor&go=Go

Chief Burbank said the officer who killed Taylor was not white, but he didn’t elaborate further.

“Officers should be held to extremely high standards, but that cannot be an impossible standard,” he added.

Taylor’s supporters say his death hasn’t received enough media attention.

“We want answers — we need them,” Aaron Swanenberg, a longtime friend of Taylor, told The New York Times.

Taylor, who is white, was reportedly unarmed when he was shot two times near a 7-Eleven on Aug. 11 after a confrontation with police officers.

The Salt Lake City police chief addressed criticism and the militarization of police in the wake of Taylor’s death.

“The officer involved in this circumstance had a camera on his body, and the entire incident has been captured,” said Chief Chris Burbank, the Epoch Times reported.

Family and friends of Dillon Taylor say they will continue to hold protests outside state and federal government offices until the authorities answer questions about the shooting, The New York Times reported.

"St. Paul Superintendent Valeria Silva wrote this on Twitter after the grand jury decision in Ferguson: "No indictment for officer Wilson! Very sad day in America. How do I explain this to my black students?"

mrswdk wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:Haha, I like how "standing up for their rights" = "burning and looting the property of innocent people."

Unfortunately for the shop owners, the protestors have very few avenues available to them:

1 - state-sanctioned means of redress (state refused to cooperate)
2 - pressure the state with peaceful campaigns (ignored by the state)
3 - pressure the state by targeting the police (tantamount to suicide when the police force are armed like Navy SEALS)
4 - pressure the state by targeting civilians and/or civilian property (only viable option remaining)

BigBallinStalin wrote:

mrswdk wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:Haha, I like how "standing up for their rights" = "burning and looting the property of innocent people."

Unfortunately for the shop owners, the protestors have very few avenues available to them:

1 - state-sanctioned means of redress (state refused to cooperate)
2 - pressure the state with peaceful campaigns (ignored by the state)
3 - pressure the state by targeting the police (tantamount to suicide when the police force are armed like Navy SEALS)
4 - pressure the state by targeting civilians and/or civilian property (only viable option remaining)

1. Assume nothing else will work.
2. Therefore, make lame excuses.

Sure, the Ferguson police exacerbated the situation (overall), and the ongoing militarization of police and the default of using force aggressively needs to be ended. As more white people and politicians become increasingly directly affected by the shenanigans of the police, we'll get that necessary change (some time in the future, unfortunately).

Still doesn't excuse destroying people's property. It actually makes them ('the mob') look worse. inb4: they're terrorists.

shickingbrits wrote:PS,

Aren't all the deaths tragic: cops, minor criminals, and people shopping at Walmart?

If they are all tragic, then why when it happens to one group does everyone expect retribution, but when that same group creates the tragedy, people have come to expect nothing?

The laws are lopsided and there is no recourse.

shickingbrits wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:

mrswdk wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:Haha, I like how "standing up for their rights" = "burning and looting the property of innocent people."

Unfortunately for the shop owners, the protestors have very few avenues available to them:

1 - state-sanctioned means of redress (state refused to cooperate)
2 - pressure the state with peaceful campaigns (ignored by the state)
3 - pressure the state by targeting the police (tantamount to suicide when the police force are armed like Navy SEALS)
4 - pressure the state by targeting civilians and/or civilian property (only viable option remaining)

1. Assume nothing else will work.
2. Therefore, make lame excuses.

Sure, the Ferguson police exacerbated the situation (overall), and the ongoing militarization of police and the default of using force aggressively needs to be ended. As more white people and politicians become increasingly directly affected by the shenanigans of the police, we'll get that necessary change (some time in the future, unfortunately).

Still doesn't excuse destroying people's property. It actually makes them ('the mob') look worse. inb4: they're terrorists.

1. Assume we'll get that necessary change when everything points in the opposite direction
2. Ignore history

I'll reply for you.

BBS wrote:

The militarization of police was an unintended consequence. The deployment of military grade equipment by the police is an unintended consequence. The skewed laws are an unintended consequence. Being shot by the police is a voluntary choice. Voters matter because they have a social contract which they can enforce through openly democratic elections.

Those angered by the governments actions could have done blank or blank instead of displaying social unrest.

shickingbrits wrote:It's not my fault if you can't read a graph.

But because you can't, I don't think I have the ability to walk you through it. If you could say something, like that graph seems to have temperatures that reach a peak and then plummet for extended periods getting 9 C colder, then I'd say, that's quite observant. I wouldn't mean that that is really quite observant, it's utterly obvious, but I would want you to feel some degree of praise for accomplishing what most elementary school children could do without guidance.

shickingbrits wrote:PS,

Aren't all the deaths tragic: cops, minor criminals, and people shopping at Walmart?

If they are all tragic, then why when it happens to one group does everyone expect retribution, but when that same group creates the tragedy, people have come to expect nothing?

The laws are lopsided and there is no recourse.

betiko wrote:

shickingbrits wrote:PS,

Aren't all the deaths tragic: cops, minor criminals, and people shopping at Walmart?

If they are all tragic, then why when it happens to one group does everyone expect retribution, but when that same group creates the tragedy, people have come to expect nothing?

The laws are lopsided and there is no recourse.

Exactly. The fact that the media emphocize the ethnic group of criminals/cops is just plain stupid and only causes tensions. I don't see why the ethnic groups should ever be mentioned; by continually repeating these stuff this is what causes ethnic groups to feel threatened by another and all the stupid shit that happens next. All these statistics are due to social class, not genetics or anything similar. The fact that cops die is not an excuse to retaliate on citizens, and the fact that citizens die is not an excuse to retaliate on cops.

It's pretty funny when you think of the OJ simpson trial, how this became something about black vs white people. The guy was guilt as shit and yet black people thought justice had been made through this farce. Justice is not about compensating ffs. If OJ simpson had been white and his wife black, then black people would've started riots if the same decision had been taken.
People should just stop being so plain stupid and think they are part of something just because they share the same skin colour; they are just participating in this whole dumb shit called racism that goes both ways.