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What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:11 pm
by DoomYoshi
I'm just wondering what some good ones might be. My faves for a long time were Alpha Centauri and Masters of Orion.

Now that I'm in the 21st century, I am ready to try some new ones.

I've already played Galactic Civilizations II. I like it, but the ship design is beyond me, since I am effectively a casual gamer (except in fighting games). I also have Sword of the Stars II.

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:07 pm
by AndyDufresne
So far, I've liked Galactic Civ 2. But it was a game I played, and then kind of just wasn't interested in anymore. I hear Galactic Civ 3 has potential. I also hear "Distant Universe" is supposed to be pretty good -- but I haven't played it. I've also played Endless Space, but it was less interesting than Galactic Civ 2.


--Andy

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:08 pm
by thegreekdog
I like the Star Wars one, but it may not be what you're looking for - Star Wars: Empire at War. It is an RTS game, but it has 4X type elements to it. I loved it.

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:15 pm
by tkr4lf
More similar to the Star Wars one than a true 4x, Sins of a Solar Empire was alright. Other than that, my only recommendations would be MOO2 and Galactic Civs 2, but you've already played them, so...

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:56 pm
by pancakemix
Has anyone tried Civ: BE? I've heard mixed things (mostly that it has the same problems Civ V had) but I'd still be interested if someone else gave it some good press.

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:05 pm
by AndyDufresne
pancakemix wrote:Has anyone tried Civ: BE? I've heard mixed things (mostly that it has the same problems Civ V had) but I'd still be interested if someone else gave it some good press.

I haven't yet, but I suspect I'll eventually pick it up a year from now on a random steam sale for like 15-20 bucks. Most of the reviews I read liked it, but it felt a little too much like a Civ 5 skin with some new elements.


--Andy

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:35 pm
by BigBallinStalin
pancakemix wrote:Has anyone tried Civ: BE? I've heard mixed things (mostly that it has the same problems Civ V had) but I'd still be interested if someone else gave it some good press.


What problems does Civ 5 have?

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:46 pm
by DoomYoshi
BigBallinStalin wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Has anyone tried Civ: BE? I've heard mixed things (mostly that it has the same problems Civ V had) but I'd still be interested if someone else gave it some good press.


What problems does Civ 5 have?


Well, to start, it isn't Civ IV.

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:09 pm
by thegreekdog
DoomYoshi wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Has anyone tried Civ: BE? I've heard mixed things (mostly that it has the same problems Civ V had) but I'd still be interested if someone else gave it some good press.


What problems does Civ 5 have?


Well, to start, it isn't Civ IV.


The biggest complaint was one unit per tile.

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:34 pm
by BigBallinStalin
thegreekdog wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Has anyone tried Civ: BE? I've heard mixed things (mostly that it has the same problems Civ V had) but I'd still be interested if someone else gave it some good press.


What problems does Civ 5 have?


Well, to start, it isn't Civ IV.


The biggest complaint was one unit per tile.


I'll admit that overall the features of Civ IV (w/ Warlord and BtS) plus Rise of Mankind: A New Dawn made Civ IV superior to Civ V. The tech tree, range of different units, etc. etc. was awesome.

What made Civ IV boring was unit-stacking and crap AI that still didn't know how to handle efficient unit-stacking and city attacks. At least with Civ V, you gotta plan attacks more carefully and more shit can go wrong (e.g. the front line collapsing; horses amazingly matter; more promotions have greater benefits and costs, etc.). The Civ V AI has pulled some interesting moves against me, while Civ IV AI is predictable.

So, I can understand that the unit-stackers would dislike more difficult AI and making harder decisions, but boo hoo.

I'm just waiting for some badass Civ V mods.

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:36 pm
by Metsfanmax
I like Civ V more than Civ IV but without Leonard Nimoy it's impossible to conclude that it's a better game.

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:33 pm
by thegreekdog
Metsfanmax wrote:I like Civ V more than Civ IV but without Leonard Nimoy it's impossible to conclude that it's a better game.


I don't disagree with that.

I like Civ IV better, but that probably has more to do with the "Golden Age of thegreekdog Playing Videogames" than anything else. I got Civ V when I was married and had a job... not as much opportunity for immersion. Civ V is loaded on my PC, so maybe I'll go back to it.

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:29 pm
by BigBallinStalin
thegreekdog wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:I like Civ V more than Civ IV but without Leonard Nimoy it's impossible to conclude that it's a better game.


I don't disagree with that.

I like Civ IV better, but that probably has more to do with the "Golden Age of thegreekdog Playing Videogames" than anything else. I got Civ V when I was married and had a job... not as much opportunity for immersion. Civ V is loaded on my PC, so maybe I'll go back to it.


That'll do it. It's been about 6 months since I've seriously played a game. In hindsight, I'm not missing it (that much).

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:50 pm
by Metsfanmax
You guys want to do a CC Civ V game?

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:39 pm
by thegreekdog
Metsfanmax wrote:You guys want to do a CC Civ V game?


Can we do that? If so, I'd be in.

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:50 pm
by Metsfanmax
thegreekdog wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:You guys want to do a CC Civ V game?


Can we do that? If so, I'd be in.


We can. Easiest would be if everyone is on Steam.

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:52 pm
by pancakemix
My comment about Civ V pertained to it not being good without the DLC (though I'd say it didn't have problems before).

I'd be up for a CC Civ game.

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:37 pm
by Lootifer
BigBallinStalin wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:I like Civ V more than Civ IV but without Leonard Nimoy it's impossible to conclude that it's a better game.


I don't disagree with that.

I like Civ IV better, but that probably has more to do with the "Golden Age of thegreekdog Playing Videogames" than anything else. I got Civ V when I was married and had a job... not as much opportunity for immersion. Civ V is loaded on my PC, so maybe I'll go back to it.


That'll do it. It's been about 6 months since I've seriously played a game. In hindsight, I'm not missing it (that much).

Congrats :)

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:47 am
by BigBallinStalin
Lootifer wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:I like Civ V more than Civ IV but without Leonard Nimoy it's impossible to conclude that it's a better game.


I don't disagree with that.

I like Civ IV better, but that probably has more to do with the "Golden Age of thegreekdog Playing Videogames" than anything else. I got Civ V when I was married and had a job... not as much opportunity for immersion. Civ V is loaded on my PC, so maybe I'll go back to it.


That'll do it. It's been about 6 months since I've seriously played a game. In hindsight, I'm not missing it (that much).

Congrats :)


Don't worry. I played Dungeon Keeper (w/ KeeperFX mod) for about 20 hours this week. It was fun, but I ran into the same problems that I always have with video games: "what are you doing with your life, sir?" Uh, uh, having fun? "Aren't you wasting your intellectual talent? Isn't there more important shit to be tackling in this world?" Oh, right! <quits and deletes game>.

Re: What is your favorite space 4X game?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:52 pm
by Lootifer
Haha. That little guy just gets told to f*ck off when he pipes up in my head.