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Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:17 am
by DoomYoshi
I'm a nerd. I'm willing to believe that orcs from Rigax-5 fought a dragon with their stolen space frigate, as long as the system is internally consistent.

There are some who will say it doesn't matter what Gwen Stacy wore when she died. But if that minor detail can't be trusted, then the entire system can't be trusted. The imaginary universe gets folded in on itself, due to a tearing of the very fabric that Gwen Stacy is wearing.

Being a master of the nerdly arts, the lack of continuity coming at me from every direction is mind-boggling. I am alone, adrift. I can only watch one-off movies, as franchises and sequels invariably ruin themselves.

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:22 am
by _sabotage_
And yet you seem to lack awareness of discontinuities in real life.

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:17 pm
by DoomYoshi
_sabotage_ wrote:And yet you seem to lack awareness of discontinuities in real life.


such as...?

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:26 pm
by _sabotage_
What happened to your ISIS sig?

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:04 pm
by waauw
DoomYoshi wrote:I'm a nerd. I'm willing to believe that orcs from Rigax-5 fought a dragon with their stolen space frigate, as long as the system is internally consistent.

There are some who will say it doesn't matter what Gwen Stacy wore when she died. But if that minor detail can't be trusted, then the entire system can't be trusted. The imaginary universe gets folded in on itself, due to a tearing of the very fabric that Gwen Stacy is wearing.

Being a master of the nerdly arts, the lack of continuity coming at me from every direction is mind-boggling. I am alone, adrift. I can only watch one-off movies, as franchises and sequels invariably ruin themselves.


I'm guessing you just watched 'The Hobbit 3'

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:03 pm
by DoomYoshi
_sabotage_ wrote:What happened to your ISIS sig?


I changed it.

1)Signatures can change
2)a signature was changed
=internally consistent system

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:52 am
by _sabotage_
Changing your sig doesn't change the fact that ISIS is a US created, equipped, trained, funded and fed entity forwarding a US agenda. The discontinuities that you have overcome to maintain your worldview have been staggering.

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:15 am
by JBlombier
I almost felt the need to pla the devil's advocate in sabotage's favour, but then I realized he is really just trying to bring DY down.
Seriously, though. Out of all the threads DY has posted in, you pick this one to let him know you think he's inconsistent? Pick your battles!

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:28 am
by _sabotage_
DY's Canadian. We have a big country, with a lot of resources, few people and few threats. We apparently have a well-educated population able to discern information at a high standard. I'm so glad he is making use of it.

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:39 pm
by DoomYoshi
_sabotage_ wrote:Changing your sig doesn't change the fact that ISIS is a US created, equipped, trained, funded and fed entity forwarding a US agenda. The discontinuities that you have overcome to maintain your worldview have been staggering.


What worldview?

How does signature have anything to do with it?

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:47 pm
by nietzsche
change is the only constant

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:11 pm
by DoomYoshi
_sabotage_ wrote:DY's Canadian. We have a big country, with a lot of resources, few people and few threats. We apparently have a well-educated population able to discern information at a high standard. I'm so glad he is making use of it.



Watching conspiracy theory videos about hempcrete is a high standard of information discernment.

=D>

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:17 pm
by _sabotage_


Damn Suzuki and his conspiracies! Your post has shown me the light.



Realized that Suzuki doesn't mention the hemp.

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:11 pm
by DoomYoshi
I now bequeath you with the title of "Describer of the Worldview", since you know mine better than anyone's and define it so succinctly.

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:17 pm
by _sabotage_
Sorry, didn't realize you were expecting me to tell you your own worldview.

Spoonfed.

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:20 pm
by nietzsche
fight fight fight fight!!

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:39 pm
by _sabotage_
Heavyweights don't step in the ring with the younger members of the audience.

Discontinuity: continuously slamming China for human rights violations against Tibet while the natives in his own backyard are ignored. Hypocrisy...

No, because no doubt he hasn't spent enough time out of his own backyard to be qualified to be a hypocrite. He's sat in his classes for the last 18 or so years and been given gold stars being a valued part of the debate co-opted and predetermined by his government(which of course he ignores).

Discontinuity: a freedom/democracy index for other countries while his prime minister slams mandatory sentencing on marijuana possession while the population is massively pro-legalization.

Discontinuity: pro-Canadian involvement against ISIS, et al. He knows damn well who armed, trained, funded, brought together ISIS and yet he's all for spending big bucks to go after them.

Unless there are no discontinuities in his positions, he has decided that his focus of contention should not extend past semi-popular fiction.

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:43 pm
by thegreekdog
DoomYoshi wrote:I'm a nerd. I'm willing to believe that orcs from Rigax-5 fought a dragon with their stolen space frigate, as long as the system is internally consistent.

There are some who will say it doesn't matter what Gwen Stacy wore when she died. But if that minor detail can't be trusted, then the entire system can't be trusted. The imaginary universe gets folded in on itself, due to a tearing of the very fabric that Gwen Stacy is wearing.

Being a master of the nerdly arts, the lack of continuity coming at me from every direction is mind-boggling. I am alone, adrift. I can only watch one-off movies, as franchises and sequels invariably ruin themselves.


So were you pissed when Disney said "f*ck it, the only Star Wars that matters is Episodes I through VI and anything we come up with."

I didn't know how to feel about it (I'm a continuinity nerd as well). On the one hand, I'm excited because Disney should know what to do with this. On the other hand, I like Admiral Thrawn.

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:48 pm
by notyou2
Space orcs aren't orcs, they are scro. You fail at nerdiness.

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:58 pm
by DoomYoshi
_sabotage_ wrote:Heavyweights don't step in the ring with the younger members of the audience.

Discontinuity: continuously slamming China for human rights violations against Tibet while the natives in his own backyard are ignored. Hypocrisy...

No, because no doubt he hasn't spent enough time out of his own backyard to be qualified to be a hypocrite. He's sat in his classes for the last 18 or so years and been given gold stars being a valued part of the debate co-opted and predetermined by his government(which of course he ignores).

Discontinuity: a freedom/democracy index for other countries while his prime minister slams mandatory sentencing on marijuana possession while the population is massively pro-legalization.

Discontinuity: pro-Canadian involvement against ISIS, et al. He knows damn well who armed, trained, funded, brought together ISIS and yet he's all for spending big bucks to go after them.

Unless there are no discontinuities in his positions, he has decided that his focus of contention should not extend past semi-popular fiction.


I don't think I've ever mentioned Tibet... correct me if I'm wrong. Where I normally slam the Chinese is on making crappy shit that stupid Americanadians buy, even though they don't need it. I slam them on thinking that economic growth is a good thing, and on communism.

I lost count on the second page, but I've started at least 10 threads on Canada, and discussed probably 30 or 40 more. Keep your rent-seeking out of this. I support the death sentence for traffic violations, so why wouldn't I support mandatory imprisonment for people who choose to break the law? If you disagree with the laws legislatures have put out, that's why we have a second amendment rights.

Now, to the meat; on ISIS. Why do you think I put that particular quote?

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If the United States armed the terrorists, why shouldn't they deal with it? As American allies, it is our duty to support whenever American interests are threatened. We could treat Iraq like we did several south and central american countries, but that's not productive.

Why is arming ISIS militants a bad thing? If they armed, we can kill them as enemy combatants. Bullets are cheap, refugees are expensive. It's better to arm would-be refugees.
It's also not a bad thing since it gives them an opportunity to enforce their own rights.

Why should we not attack? I'm pissed off that Boko Haram and ISIS leaders get more tail than me. It may all be 13-year slaves they are getting, but that's morally outrageous. I have a direct interest in this battle, as those are my virgins they are defiling.

thegreekdog wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:I'm a nerd. I'm willing to believe that orcs from Rigax-5 fought a dragon with their stolen space frigate, as long as the system is internally consistent.

There are some who will say it doesn't matter what Gwen Stacy wore when she died. But if that minor detail can't be trusted, then the entire system can't be trusted. The imaginary universe gets folded in on itself, due to a tearing of the very fabric that Gwen Stacy is wearing.

Being a master of the nerdly arts, the lack of continuity coming at me from every direction is mind-boggling. I am alone, adrift. I can only watch one-off movies, as franchises and sequels invariably ruin themselves.


So were you pissed when Disney said "f*ck it, the only Star Wars that matters is Episodes I through VI and anything we come up with."

I didn't know how to feel about it (I'm a continuinity nerd as well). On the one hand, I'm excited because Disney should know what to do with this. On the other hand, I like Admiral Thrawn.


I never really got into the Star Wars novels or comics, but I may look at the new Star Wars comic. I did a play with a kid who was home-schooled to be a creationist, and he was a huge Star Wars novel fan. I can't disentangle those things in my mind. I'm used to a Canon/non-canon split since I play a lot of fighting games (where you might have 50 stories, only one of which is canon).

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:25 pm
by _sabotage_
If the US armed the terrorists, why shouldn't they deal with it?

The world as the WWF might be a good thing in your book, but I believe the WWF is losing popularity. The US has a military budget equivalent to the next 35 highest budgets combined, 32 of who are US allies.

I was afraid of this when making my post, what if he replies that he is insane? Well you replied in the only way I worried about, so kudos on that.

During the slave trade, the Portuguese would travel down the African coast and offer arms to the various parties. If one didn't take the weapons, they'd get their enemies to. In this way, they built of the slave trade. But what they were really doing is manipulating internal policy for the benefit of extracting resources and controlling the region.

I'm guessing you know all of this, but lack sanity. You think it's a good thing for the military-industrial complex to thrust demand of their products on the world. You think the military budgets are great and should be used as self-fulfilling income generators.

It's ok to undermine internal policy through use of force to coerce ideas upon them and. That many of the tactics used insist on glorifying the suffering doesn't bother you a tad.

The public shouldn't let them deal with it because it is being used to harm the public, domestically and internationally. It has caused trillions of dollars that Bush and Neocons desperately wanted. It allowed them to pass the patriot act in 45 days(they originally wanted it to pass in a week).

It allowed them to spy, torture, militarize the police, build a massive and hungry infrastructure, engage in cronyism, neocolonialism, and extend a business-political hegemony across an untapped market.

It has lead to polarization, further death, further demand for the weapons.

Why shouldn't we go in Iraq? Same shit. We supplied Saddam with the sarin, built his plants, told him when to use it and then overthrow the country and turn the place to shit.

The police officer who tells the world on 9-11 there were no bombs oversees the dispersal of the Iraqi police. He's currently in prison for fraud, it was his unit that found the terrorist's passport on 9-11 miraculously intact on the sidewalk.

We shouldn't go because it is fraud. It is constant use of deadly force.

Now they have the Facebook alert notifier. Won't it be great? We will all get to tingle together.

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:30 pm
by DoomYoshi
_sabotage_ wrote:It allowed them to spy, torture, militarize the police, build a massive and hungry infrastructure, engage in cronyism, neocolonialism, and extend a business-political hegemony across an untapped market.


Wait. For clarification, are we talking about 1898, 1917 or 1941? I can't tell.

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:33 pm
by DoomYoshi
Here's a better question: America became a superpower by certain tactics. Which tactics to become THE world superpower would you have liked it to use?

Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:37 pm
by DoomYoshi
_sabotage_ wrote:
I'm guessing you know all of this, but lack sanity. You think it's a good thing for the military-industrial complex to thrust demand of their products on the world. You think the military budgets are great and should be used as self-fulfilling income generators.



How is it a bad thing?

Irony- being called insane by this guy:
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Re: Why Continuity is Important

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:42 pm
by Metsfanmax
DoomYoshi wrote:There are some who will say it doesn't matter what Gwen Stacy wore when she died. But if that minor detail can't be trusted, then the entire system can't be trusted. The imaginary universe gets folded in on itself, due to a tearing of the very fabric that Gwen Stacy is wearing.


I consider myself a nerd, and am quite content to use Newton's law to calculate the gravitational force exerted on me by the Earth even though that calculation would be incorrect near a black hole.

Accept approximation. It is good for you.