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Tall buildings

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:11 pm
by mrswdk
Why do Europeans hate skyscrapers so much?

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:31 pm
by AndyDufresne
In Star Trek, the Ferengi's homeworld, Ferenginar, has a Tower of Commerce, which is very tall and which is a sort of icon in their "religious dedication" to acquiring wealth: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Tower_of_Commerce

Moreover, in Star Trek, some "Ferengi criminals and financial deviants were taken by the FCA to the top of the spire of the Tower of Commerce and shoved off to plummet into the Sacred Marketplace, where people bet on where the victims would land."

Ferengi are usually a stand in for one aspect of human culture.

Also, Europeans evidently prefer their old buildings.


--Andy

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:09 pm
by tzor
mrswdk wrote:Why do Europeans hate skyscrapers so much?


They are an American invention. :twisted:

In 1852 Elisha Otis introduced the safety elevator, allowing convenient and safe passenger movement to upper floors. Another crucial development was the use of a steel frame instead of stone or brick, otherwise the walls on the lower floors on a tall building would be too thick to be practical. An early development in this area was Oriel Chambers in Liverpool. Designed by local architect Peter Ellis in 1864, the building was the world's first iron-framed, glass curtain-walled office building. It was only 5 floors high.[22][23][24] Further developments led to the world's first skyscraper, the ten-story Home Insurance Building in Chicago, built in 1884–1885.[25] While its height is not considered very impressive today, it was at that time. The architect, Major William Le Baron Jenney, created a load-bearing structural frame. In this building, a steel frame supported the entire weight of the walls, instead of load-bearing walls carrying the weight of the building. This development led to the "Chicago skeleton" form of construction. In addition to the steel frame, the Home Insurance Building also utilized fireproofing, elevators, and electrical wiring, key elements in most skyscrapers today.[26]


I can't speak for Europe, but I know in London The Gherkin is a 40 story building and there were a lot of skyscrapers along Canary Warf where Reuters used to have its headquarters before it got bought out by Thompson.

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:17 pm
by Lootifer
Cant speak for Euros but there are some god awful looking tall buildings* around where I live.

Old European architecture >>>> "modern" tall buildings that look dated 2 years later.

*tall buildings in NZ are like 10-20 stories :(

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:37 pm
by DaGip
mrswdk wrote:Why do Europeans hate skyscrapers so much?


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Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:18 pm
by Dukasaur
Superman can leap them in a single bound.

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:04 am
by Metsfanmax
They kill lots of birds.

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:28 pm
by mrswdk
I was drinking in a bar on the 118th floor of a skyscraper tonight. The view was epic. Tall buildings are cool, everyone knows it.

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:15 pm
by TA1LGUNN3R
mrswdk wrote:I was drinking in a bar on the 118th floor of a skyscraper tonight. The view was epic. Tall buildings are cool, everyone knows it.


Agreed. They're also a testament to how awesome we are. f*ck the ground, it's dirty.

-TG

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:22 pm
by nietzsche
mrswdk wrote:I was drinking in a bar on the 118th floor of a skyscraper tonight. The view was epic. Tall buildings are cool, everyone knows it.


I just hacked the cctv system (admin:admin lol) of the Ozone Bar.

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Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:46 pm
by crispybits
Here I was thinking the Greeks invented skyscrapers, after all they invented everything else (including fire and God)

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:53 pm
by nietzsche
crispybits wrote:Here I was thinking the Greeks invented skyscrapers, after all they invented everything else (including fire and God)


I'm interested to know why you say they invented God. Would it be a cliche for me to said the gods they invented were killed?

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:28 pm
by crispybits
It was a reference to this lovely thread:

viewtopic.php?p=4620026#p4620026

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:57 pm
by DaGip
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
mrswdk wrote:I was drinking in a bar on the 118th floor of a skyscraper tonight. The view was epic. Tall buildings are cool, everyone knows it.


Agreed. They're also a testament to how awesome we are. f*ck the ground, it's dirty.

-TG


f*ck the ground?

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Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:16 pm
by waauw
As a european I got to say I'm jealous about the rest of the world. Those skyscrapers look so nice. Here they are forbidden because of extremely strict architectural laws :(
For some reason our politicians think it would ruin the view. In fact, looking at a list of the highest buildings in my country, most of 'm are old church towers :evil:

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:25 pm
by notyou2
That Chicago 10 story sky scraper was designed by a McGill University Graduate

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:13 pm
by DaGip
waauw wrote:As a european I got to say I'm jealous about the rest of the world. Those skyscrapers look so nice. Here they are forbidden because of extremely strict architectural laws :(
For some reason our politicians think it would ruin the view. In fact, looking at a list of the highest buildings in my country, most of 'm are old church towers :evil:


This?

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over This?

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Only the Antichrist would say such a thing.

But putting the "church" thing aside, I have to say I enjoy being able to see the lay of the land as opposed to seeing giant LEGO sets messing up the horizon. There is a certain appreciation and understanding in Europe of the principles of Gestalt that most American cities (and other countries) do not have.

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:16 am
by mrswdk
Nietzsche wrote:Ozone bar


lol. My lawyer will be contacting you about the restraining order within the next few days.

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:18 am
by JBlombier
About these church towers waauw mentions. In Utrecht, where I live, we have the Dom Tower. It used to be part of the Dom Church, but after a storm long ago they were separated. This is now the symbol for Utrecht, with its 112 meters in height. Because it is our symbol and we value that, no other building in Utrecht is allowed to be higher than 111 meters! I think that's awesome and I hope they will never change that law.

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Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:56 am
by DaGip
JBlombier wrote:About these church towers waauw mentions. In Utrecht, where I live, we have the Dom Tower. It used to be part of the Dom Church, but after a storm long ago they were separated. This is now the symbol for Utrecht, with its 112 meters in height. Because it is our symbol and we value that, no other building in Utrecht is allowed to be higher than 111 meters! I think that's awesome and I hope they will never change that law.

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Instead of building skyscrapers up, why don't they build large bunkers downward? Like Umbrella Corp.

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Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:33 am
by notyou2
JBlombier wrote:About these church towers waauw mentions. In Utrecht, where I live, we have the Dom Tower. It used to be part of the Dom Church, but after a storm long ago they were separated. This is now the symbol for Utrecht, with its 112 meters in height. Because it is our symbol and we value that, no other building in Utrecht is allowed to be higher than 111 meters! I think that's awesome and I hope they will never change that law.

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Thus the Treaty of Utrecht was born.

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:52 pm
by crispybits
DaGip wrote:Instead of building skyscrapers up, why don't they build large bunkers downward? Like Umbrella Corp.


Didn't you see the series of documentaries (all true of course) about how badly that went when they tried it?

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:27 pm
by notyou2
mrswdk wrote:
Nietzsche wrote:Ozone bar


lol. My lawyer will be contacting you about the restraining order within the next few days.


OHHHHH, this is what you were referencing, now I understand.

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:46 pm
by saxitoxin
JBlombier wrote:About these church towers waauw mentions. In Utrecht, where I live, we have the Dom Tower. It used to be part of the Dom Church, but after a storm long ago they were separated.


Is there a bar at the top?

JBlombier wrote:This is now the symbol for Utrecht, with its 112 meters in height. Because it is our symbol and we value that, no other building in Utrecht is allowed to be higher than 111 meters! I think that's awesome and I hope they will never change that law.


According to Wikipedia, until 1984 no building in Philadelphia could be taller than the statue of William Penn. And then things went to hell. So keep the Dom Tower safe from mrswdk and her minions.

Re: Tall buildings

PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:15 am
by muy_thaiguy
Tallest building in Wyoming is the student dorm building, White Hall. At 200 feet, or 61 meters. So, yeah.