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lies, lies...

Postby Oneyed on Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:43 am

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Re: lies, lies...

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:59 am

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Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:19 pm

That reads like something qwert would type out.

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Postby Oneyed on Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:27 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Image


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TA1LGUNN3R wrote:That reads like something qwert would type out.

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its my free translation. english is my second language, but I think it is clear. feel free to edit it.

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Re: lies, lies...

Postby Serbia on Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:15 pm

Oneyed wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:That reads like something qwert would type out.

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its my free translation. english is my second language, but I think it is clear. feel free to edit it.

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You're Slovakian, which means you and your translation are awesome. Btw, are you friends with Tomas Tatar? Would be super awesome if you were.

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Postby GoranZ on Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:19 am

AndyDufresne wrote:Image


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Monkey if you hit your head harder maybe you will understand :lol:
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Re: lies, lies...

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:25 am

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Monkey if you hit your head harder maybe you will understand :lol:


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Re: lies, lies...

Postby Oneyed on Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:41 pm

Andy all the time I thought that you are inteligent and cool guy. but some of your last posts (not only here) I did not undertsand.
and not everything is sofunny as just you think.

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Re: lies, lies...

Postby notyou2 on Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:37 am

How much is Putin paying you?
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Re: lies, lies...

Postby muy_thaiguy on Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:51 am

notyou2 wrote:How much is Putin paying you?

1 million Rubles. Which figures out to be about $20 US.
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Re: lies, lies...

Postby notyou2 on Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:19 pm

Well, when you steal companies and wealth, you can afford to pay people in multiple countries.
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Re: lies, lies...

Postby GoranZ on Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:51 pm

notyou2 wrote:How much is Putin paying you?

How much is CIA paying you?

muy_thaiguy wrote:
notyou2 wrote:How much is Putin paying you?

1 million Rubles. Which figures out to be about $20 US.

Disability workers that lack of brain as you, should not work on currency exchange calculations. :lol:

Enjoy reading Never before has US drilling for oil collapsed this far this fast.

P.S. Good to know that US oil industry is choking in debts while we all drive the cheep oil :lol:
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Re: lies, lies...

Postby muy_thaiguy on Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:02 pm

GoranZ wrote:
notyou2 wrote:How much is Putin paying you?

How much is CIA paying you?

muy_thaiguy wrote:
notyou2 wrote:How much is Putin paying you?

1 million Rubles. Which figures out to be about $20 US.

Disability workers that lack of brain as you, should not work on currency exchange calculations. :lol:

Enjoy reading Never before has US drilling for oil collapsed this far this fast.

P.S. Good to know that US oil industry is choking in debts while we all drive the cheep oil :lol:

Do "tongue in cheek" comments not exist in Macedonia? You know, something said in a jokingly matter, blowing something out of proportion, but not serious? That sort of thing? Because, as Will Smith said in Men In Black, "Dayum!"
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Postby notyou2 on Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:08 pm

The US wants the oil collapse to make the Russian economy collapse.

Who do you think is asking the Saudis to pump more oil? Putin?
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Postby GoranZ on Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:50 pm

notyou2 wrote:The US wants the oil collapse to make the Russian economy collapse.

Who do you think is asking the Saudis to pump more oil? Putin?

If that is the case you are making Chines stronger... The interesting outcome is if dropping oil prices(although they are 20$ higher then 1 month ago) dont do the job and Russia's economy doesn't collapse. In that situation US will have strong China and morally stronger Russia. I hope you wont be surprised if their appetites from half Ukraine increase to whole Ukraine + half of Estonia and Latvia, after all someone will have to pay the bill.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:25 pm

Putin isn't silly enough to actually invade a NATO country.


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Re: lies, lies...

Postby Oneyed on Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:57 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Putin isn't silly enough to actually invade a NATO country.


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nobody wants invade NATO countries. just USA with NATO countries invaded Iraq, Afghanistan and CIA made coup in Libya, Syria, Ukraine.

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Re: lies, lies...

Postby GoranZ on Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:03 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Putin isn't silly enough to actually invade a NATO country.


--Andy

If the West fails to economically break Russia, Putin will hold strong hands vs NATO in Baltic countries. So the question is: "Will NATO/US risk nuclear war?".
The interesting observation is that in case of nuclear war atm Russia has better offensive and defensive capabilities.
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:21 pm

GoranZ wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:Putin isn't silly enough to actually invade a NATO country.


--Andy

If the West fails to economically break Russia, Putin will hold strong hands vs NATO in Baltic countries. So the question is: "Will NATO/US risk nuclear war?".
The interesting observation is that in case of nuclear war atm Russia has better offensive and defensive capabilities.

Just to put this out there, it's Putin that is threatening nuclear war because he caught with his hand in the cookie jar (metaphorically speaking) when he "annexed" Crimea after sending troops (videos have been posted on here) in and doing what Stalin and Hitler did to Poland in WWII. And so he and his cronies were hit with sanctions, coupled with the bottom dropping out on oil, their money and reserves are vanishing faster than Stalin's political opposition did (or anyone that might come close to being a political rival). So, he threatens nuclear war. Then he, at the very least, supplies the rebels in Eastern Ukraine with weapons, tanks, and other military hardware, and gets slapped with more sanctions.

See, this is called "cause and effect". Meaning, that Putin's actions against Ukraine (the cause) are being met with heavy sanctions (the effect). So he cries about it and then threatens nuclear war against nations that have not even raised a single gun against him. See the problem now?
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Re: lies, lies...

Postby GoranZ on Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:17 pm

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GoranZ wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:Putin isn't silly enough to actually invade a NATO country.


--Andy

If the West fails to economically break Russia, Putin will hold strong hands vs NATO in Baltic countries. So the question is: "Will NATO/US risk nuclear war?".
The interesting observation is that in case of nuclear war atm Russia has better offensive and defensive capabilities.

Just to put this out there, it's Putin that is threatening nuclear war because he caught with his hand in the cookie jar (metaphorically speaking) when he "annexed" Crimea after sending troops (videos have been posted on here) in and doing what Stalin and Hitler did to Poland in WWII. And so he and his cronies were hit with sanctions, coupled with the bottom dropping out on oil, their money and reserves are vanishing faster than Stalin's political opposition did (or anyone that might come close to being a political rival). So, he threatens nuclear war. Then he, at the very least, supplies the rebels in Eastern Ukraine with weapons, tanks, and other military hardware, and gets slapped with more sanctions.

Let me refresh your idiotic brain...
1. Ukraine had democratically elected president who was overthrown by western supporters in undemocratic manner.
2. Crimea held a referendum organized by authorities elected on elections recognized by the west. Crimean referendum was organized by UN standards.
3. There is not a single similarity between Poland before WWII and Ukraine from the beginning of 2014, same applies for Stalin, Hitler and Putin.

muy_thaiguy wrote:See, this is called "cause and effect". Meaning, that Putin's actions against Ukraine (the cause) are being met with heavy sanctions (the effect). So he cries about it and then threatens nuclear war against nations that have not even raised a single gun against him. See the problem now?

This is the "cause and effect"... Every contract that Putin will sign with the West concerning Ukraine will have smaller value then the paper it is signed on if it isn't according to the Russian interests.
That leaves you with only one option: "How badly does the West want nuclear war?"
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:26 pm

1. The Democratically elected President got the hell out of Ukraine before the protests ever happened. He abandoned his post. Not to mention he had promised during his election to have closer ties to the West, and then turned around and began signing deals with Russia.
2. Hey, all I said was that Russia went in and took over a part of another country's territory with no real cause to do so, other than for Crimea's military strategic point in the Black Sea. The bullshit about it being "protecting Russians" is exactly that, bullshit.
3. Ukraine- Invaded and (parts of it so far) taken over by the Russian military.
Poland- Invaded by Russia (and in agreement with Hitler, Nazi Germany as well) and held by Russia. And after the Germans were being driven back, Russia basically re-invaded and re-conquered Poland, that time the whole thing.

Finally-How much more proof do you need that Putin is a certifiable nut job that only cares about restoring the Soviet Empire, and damned be those who suffer for it? He does not give a shit about the people of Russia, other than the ones that line his pockets and make him look good to the masses. If he did care about Russia, he would back down on Ukraine, give back Crimea (since Crimea is a part of Ukraine), and then the sanctions would be removed. And any trade or buisiness that is somehow linked to the West, he bans it to spite his own nose, and the people that lose money or their jobs over it, well, sucks to be them, right?
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Re: lies, lies...

Postby Oneyed on Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:38 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:1. The Democratically elected President got the hell out of Ukraine before the protests ever happened. He abandoned his post. Not to mention he had promised during his election to have closer ties to the West, and then turned around and began signing deals with Russia.


what do you know about Ukraine (before maidan)?
so by your words, if president does not deliver the goods he can be overthrown. then 50% presidnets (premiers) around the world can be overthrown. also Obama.
muy_thaiguy wrote:2. Hey, all I said was that Russia went in and took over a part of another country's territory with no real cause to do so, other than for Crimea's military strategic point in the Black Sea. The bullshit about it being "protecting Russians" is exactly that, bullshit.


no it is not bullshit. do you know situation of russians in some post soviet countries? do you know for exmple that in Latvia the russians can not vote only because they have russian nationality? I can see what will USA do if this happen to americans in any country...
muy_thaiguy wrote:3. Ukraine- Invaded and (parts of it so far) taken over by the Russian military.
Poland- Invaded by Russia (and in agreement with Hitler, Nazi Germany as well) and held by Russia. And after the Germans were being driven back, Russia basically re-invaded and re-conquered Poland, that time the whole thing.


if you can speak about past, USSR liberated whole eastern and central europe, this is what you call "basicaly re-invaded". then USA, Great Britain invaded the western europe. or do you try to re-write history?
muy_thaiguy wrote:Finally-How much more proof do you need that Putin is a certifiable nut job that only cares about restoring the Soviet Empire, and damned be those who suffer for it? He does not give a shit about the people of Russia, other than the ones that line his pockets and make him look good to the masses.


LoL. and which politican give a shit about people?
muy_thaiguy wrote:If he did care about Russia, he would back down on Ukraine, give back Crimea (since Crimea is a part of Ukraine), and then the sanctions would be removed. And any trade or buisiness that is somehow linked to the West, he bans it to spite his own nose, and the people that lose money or their jobs over it, well, sucks to be them, right?


how can you tell this shit? look at your country where you have soldiers and how much countries you occupied. so at the first take your soldiers back (also hidden ones or agents).
do you know that Ukraine was part of Russia to 1954?

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Re: lies, lies...

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:46 am

GoranZ wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:Putin isn't silly enough to actually invade a NATO country.


--Andy

If the West fails to economically break Russia, Putin will hold strong hands vs NATO in Baltic countries. So the question is: "Will NATO/US risk nuclear war?".
The interesting observation is that in case of nuclear war atm Russia has better offensive and defensive capabilities.

Putin isn't silly enough. It's pretty that simple.


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Re: lies, lies...

Postby Oneyed on Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:48 am

AndyDufresne wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:Putin isn't silly enough to actually invade a NATO country.


--Andy

If the West fails to economically break Russia, Putin will hold strong hands vs NATO in Baltic countries. So the question is: "Will NATO/US risk nuclear war?".
The interesting observation is that in case of nuclear war atm Russia has better offensive and defensive capabilities.

Putin isn't silly enough. It's pretty that simple.


--Andy


so Bush older, Bush younger and Obama are enough silly to made war in five countries? are they enough silly for you?

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Re: lies, lies...

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:07 pm

Oneyed wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:Putin isn't silly enough to actually invade a NATO country.


--Andy

If the West fails to economically break Russia, Putin will hold strong hands vs NATO in Baltic countries. So the question is: "Will NATO/US risk nuclear war?".
The interesting observation is that in case of nuclear war atm Russia has better offensive and defensive capabilities.

Putin isn't silly enough. It's pretty that simple.


--Andy


so Bush older, Bush younger and Obama are enough silly to made war in five countries? are they enough silly for you?

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They didn't make nuclear war. That is what my comment was referring to. Putin isn't silly enough to risk nuclear war. Most world leaders aren't. Is that silly enough for you?


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