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Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:14 am
by Phatscotty
‘Judgement Free’ Gym Revokes Membership Of Woman Who Complained About Transgender Woman In The Locker Room



A national gym chain that touts its “non-intimidating” environment revoked a Midland, Mich. woman’s membership, claiming she violated its “No Judgement Zone” policy by telling other gym-goers about an incident in which she believed she encountered a man in the locker room.

Yvette Cormier said she was “stunned and shocked” when she entered the Midland, Mich. Planet Fitness gym’s locker room last Saturday and encountered someone she said looked like a man but who actually self-identifies as a woman.

“He looked like a man. He did not look like a woman,” Cormier told Flint’s WNEM.

“I was blocked, because a man was standing there,” Cormier said. “It freaked me out because, why is a man in here?

A flustered Cormier went to the gym’s front desk staff and told them a man was in the locker room. An attendant informed her the person was not a man, but a transgender woman.

'This is very unprofessional. This is very scary,” said Cormier, who did not know the gym’s policy on the matter at the time.

She then made her concerns known to the gym’s corporate office.

“They told me the same thing, that he was allowed in there because that’s the sex he wants to be,” Cormier said.

Cormier attended the gym Monday through Thursday this week and told other women in the locker room about her encounter. She told WNEM that she then received a phone call from Planet Fitness’ corporate office.

She said she was asked her if she planned to stop talking with others at the gym about the incident in the locker room. When Cormier said she would not she was informed that her membership was revoked.

A statement released by the nationwide workout chain indicates that Cormier was banned because she violated the fitness chain’s “Judgement Free Zone” policy. Planet Fitness’ statement reads:

""Planet Fitness is committed to creating a non-intimidating, welcoming environment for our members. Our gender identity non-discrimination policy states that members and guests may use all gym facilities based on their sincere self-reported gender identity. In expressing her concerns about the policy, the member in question exhibited behavior that club management deemed inappropriate and disruptive to other members, which is a violation of the membership agreement and as a result her membership was canceled.""


http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/07/judge ... oom-video/

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:47 am
by mrswdk
Next they'll be letting their male staff put security cams in the women's toilet cubicles for Black History Month.

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:56 am
by macbone
Then there are the transgender people who are discriminated against, like this woman who was harassed here in Hong Kong:

A war of words has broken out over claims by a transgender woman from South America that immigration and customs officers behaved "like animals'' during a body search and mocked her during a nine-hour ordeal at Chek Lap Kok airport.

Hong Kong officials strenuously deny the allegations and insist proper procedures were followed amid initial suspicions about her identity and the reason she arrived here from Taiwan.

On her arrival in Hong Kong on September 16 she claims staff ridiculed her because she was dressed as a woman. She was refused entry because immigration officials could not verify her explanation about the passport with her country's consulate.

Later, two male customs officers took her to a small room to carry out a body search despite her repeated requests for a woman. She says they touched her penis and breasts with their hands, a claim customs officials deny.

"They were animals. I kept asking for a female but they said if I refused [the search] they would deport [me]. When it was over, I was destroyed."

A customs spokesman said: "The passenger had his clothes on during the whole search and customs officers did not touch any sensitive parts of his body."

She was released when officials verified her story.

The woman also claims she was mistreated by staff at Queen Elizabeth Hospital who wrongly diagnosed her as a psychiatric patient on September 30 and put her in restraints.

The hospital says the action was necessary as she was suicidal.


http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/arti ... als-during

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:20 am
by warmonger1981
Reality vs perception. And crazy wins. This society is so fucked up it makes me sick. This country is a heaping pile of shit with no direction or guidance. Say goodbye to America. Say hello to crazy town. Pretty soon if a person identifies themselves as an animal who says the can't bang animals? Remember no one has a right to judge or be prejudice even though that's the first thing anyone does when buying a product or picking their friends. So from now on you all must buy my products and consider me a close friend. Remember no discriminating for any reasons you bigots.

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:46 am
by mrswdk
warmonger1981 wrote:Pretty soon if a person identifies themselves as an animal who says the can't bang animals?


Why shouldn't humans bang animals?

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:01 am
by khazalid
so, the t's and c's of this particular institution are very specifically worded and an obvious selling point to a certain demographic. there are a million other gyms that will segregate based on gender, rather than the more fluid 'gender identity'. what's the big deal? she can have no complaints about having her membership revoked.

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:34 am
by warmonger1981
Basically language is being turned upside down. Pick and choose the meaning of a word at will. Like Bill Clinton said it depends on what your definition of "is" is. Language is the basic communication between people. You change the language you change the culture. Other gyms will be forced to change their policies to conform to the members own view on their gender. Even if they physically have a dick that doesn't matter. The person perceives themselves as a girl so that trumps physics.

As far as banging animals. My personal view is not banging nothing but humans. Now let me ask you Mrs why shouldn't I chop you up and eat you after you've been raped? Answer to all this is personal perception of given situations. Just like all Catholics worship together their personal views of right and wrong are different. If that's the case each persons ultimate view of God would be different.

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:42 am
by Army of GOD
anyone who willingly goes to Planet Fitness deserves to be banned from gyms

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:46 am
by Phatscotty
mrswdk wrote:Next they'll be letting their male staff put security cams in the women's toilet cubicles for Black History Month.


+10 DarkBux

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:54 am
by crispybits
I take it you're objecting to the ban PS? What would you like to see done about this? What should be the reaction to this and who should be doing the reacting?

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:00 am
by Army of GOD
Did she actually see a penis or was the tranny just really ugly?

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:06 am
by khazalid
warmonger1981 wrote:Basically language is being turned upside down. Pick and choose the meaning of a word at will. Like Bill Clinton said it depends on what your definition of "is" is. Language is the basic communication between people. You change the language you change the culture. Other gyms will be forced to change their policies to conform to the members own view on their gender. Even if they physically have a dick that doesn't matter. The person perceives themselves as a girl so that trumps physics.

As far as banging animals. My personal view is not banging nothing but humans. Now let me ask you Mrs why shouldn't I chop you up and eat you after you've been raped? Answer to all this is personal perception of given situations. Just like all Catholics worship together their personal views of right and wrong are different. If that's the case each persons ultimate view of God would be different.


language is not being turned upside down. what is slowly changing is the idea that gender is more than physiological construct.

the idea that this is the thin end of the wedge, and that - hey! - before you know it, ever gym in 'MURICAAAA will have a unisex changing room is patently untrue. this particular company seems to cater to (amongst others) what is a tiny fraction of the populace who do not identify as their physiological gender. had it been the case that the person in question had misrepresented their gender identity, then you'd have a point; but as that issue is not in question, you do not.

the wording in the membership application is absolutely cut and dried. there are no shortage of gyms that do not stipulate it, and would no doubt proscribe to the same views on gender you express. as an organisation, they can do as they like; you as a consumer have the same right. don't like it? - go somewhere else.

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:52 am
by mrswdk
warmonger1981 wrote:Other gyms will be forced to change their policies to conform to the members own view on their gender.


Changing your practices to fit prevalent social norms is just a business move, nothing more.

If your want your gym to espouse a certain ideology (lol), and you would rather stay true to that ideology than pander to prevailing norms, then you are free to do so.

As far as banging animals. My personal view is not banging nothing but humans. Now let me ask you Mrs why shouldn't I chop you up and eat you after you've been raped? Answer to all this is personal perception of given situations.


No reason. Don't expect me to let you do that though.

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:04 am
by macbone
How is identity ideology?


Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:47 am
by mrswdk
macbone wrote:How is identity ideology?


Well, whatever word is more appropriate there then. His views about how gender should be treated and defined vs other people's differing views on how gender should be treated and defined.

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:05 am
by macbone
I'm a male. That's not ideology.

Or is it??? Dun dun dun!

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:10 am
by mrswdk
Planet Fitness is apparently fairly flexible about what gender you state you are and which changing rooms you are therefore allowed to use. If warmonger ran a gym, it sounds like he would not be standing for any of that hippy crap.

So clearly there are different social attitudes towards this sort of thing.

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:15 am
by macbone
From David Willis' Dumbing of Age:



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Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:17 am
by macbone
Oh, that David Willis. Always stirring up trouble!

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Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:31 am
by saxitoxin
Army of GOD wrote:anyone who willingly goes to Planet Fitness deserves to be banned from gyms


AoG goes to SoulCycle

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:44 am
by macbone
Sorry, I just can't help myself.

This is from Jeph Jaques's Questionable Content. (I still can't get over the fact his Patreon is at nearly US $10k a month. That's incredible.)

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Tell me again about how discriminating against transgender people isn't the same as hating on gays or black people?

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:50 am
by mrswdk
lol. The first comic in that strip, about the girl's bag. What do you reckon he'd make of Chinese girls' bags, phone covers and general taste in clothing?

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:35 pm
by rockfist
Phatscotty wrote:‘Judgement Free’ Gym Revokes Membership Of Woman Who Complained About Transgender Woman In The Locker Room



A national gym chain that touts its “non-intimidating” environment revoked a Midland, Mich. woman’s membership, claiming she violated its “No Judgement Zone” policy by telling other gym-goers about an incident in which she believed she encountered a man in the locker room.

Yvette Cormier said she was “stunned and shocked” when she entered the Midland, Mich. Planet Fitness gym’s locker room last Saturday and encountered someone she said looked like a man but who actually self-identifies as a woman.

“He looked like a man. He did not look like a woman,” Cormier told Flint’s WNEM.

“I was blocked, because a man was standing there,” Cormier said. “It freaked me out because, why is a man in here?

A flustered Cormier went to the gym’s front desk staff and told them a man was in the locker room. An attendant informed her the person was not a man, but a transgender woman.

'This is very unprofessional. This is very scary,” said Cormier, who did not know the gym’s policy on the matter at the time.

She then made her concerns known to the gym’s corporate office.

“They told me the same thing, that he was allowed in there because that’s the sex he wants to be,” Cormier said.

Cormier attended the gym Monday through Thursday this week and told other women in the locker room about her encounter. She told WNEM that she then received a phone call from Planet Fitness’ corporate office.

She said she was asked her if she planned to stop talking with others at the gym about the incident in the locker room. When Cormier said she would not she was informed that her membership was revoked.

A statement released by the nationwide workout chain indicates that Cormier was banned because she violated the fitness chain’s “Judgement Free Zone” policy. Planet Fitness’ statement reads:

""Planet Fitness is committed to creating a non-intimidating, welcoming environment for our members. Our gender identity non-discrimination policy states that members and guests may use all gym facilities based on their sincere self-reported gender identity. In expressing her concerns about the policy, the member in question exhibited behavior that club management deemed inappropriate and disruptive to other members, which is a violation of the membership agreement and as a result her membership was canceled.""


http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/07/judge ... oom-video/


I've been kicked out of Planet Fitness. For allegedly being intimidating. All I was doing was lifting my program. Never said shit to anyone else while I was there.

Its a "judgment free zone" as long as you don't actually try to be in really good shape, or lift heavy weights (which no competitive power lifter would think mine were).

Planning on going to a different one with a couple of buddies and filming it. Will post later.

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:58 pm
by Phatscotty
crispybits wrote:I take it you're objecting to the ban PS? What would you like to see done about this? What should be the reaction to this and who should be doing the reacting?


I would like to see people with a penis use the mens lockers
I would like to see people with a vagina use the womens lockers

Call me radical

Re: Planet Fitness Bans Woman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:11 pm
by /
Phatscotty wrote:
crispybits wrote:I take it you're objecting to the ban PS? What would you like to see done about this? What should be the reaction to this and who should be doing the reacting?


I would like to see people with a penis use the mens lockers
I would like to see people with a vagina use the womens lockers

Call me radical

So people born intersex should get to use both then? Neither? Around 1 in 1000 people are born with ambiguous genitals. In that same vein, many transgender individuals have internal and/or eternal physical circumstances that define their bodies and minds.

Anyways, besides that, what ever happened to encouraging businesses to have the freedom to run themselves how they want? Don't tell me that only applies to the good businesses that close on Sundays like Hobby Lobby or Chic-fil-a. ;)