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One day I'll drive to London.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:10 am
by tzor
Daily Mail: The 12,400 mile superhighway from Britain to America: Plans proposed for VERY ambitious road across Russia

Britain could be linked with America by road as part of an ambitious project to create the world's longest superhighway spanning half the circumference of the globe.

Proposals have been put forward to build the mega route stretching about 12,400 miles from the western edge of Russia to the Bering Strait where the country nudges Alaska.

Linking into existing road networks in Europe and Asia, for the first time it would allow travellers a proper highway to drive all way from the UK to the United States.

A Trans-Siberian rail link as well as oil and gas pipes would run alongside the highway, and plans have been mooted already for a rail tunnel connecting the far flung Russian region of Chukotka - where football tycoon Roman Abramovich once served as governor - and Alaska.


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I can hear Sara Palin now, "I can drive to London from my home!"

Re: One day I'll drive to London.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:55 am
by Army of GOD
I don't think it'd be smart to have 50%+ of the road in Russia.

Re: One day I'll drive to London.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:03 am
by betiko
In terms of landscape i might make that road go a little more south when you don to work around the hImalayas.

Re: One day I'll drive to London.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:23 am
by Dukasaur
betiko wrote:In terms of landscape i might make that road go a little more south when you don to work around the hImalayas.

Have you even looked at a globe? If you go any further south you will run into the Himalayas. That's part of the reason why the northern route works -- it's relatively flat.

Re: One day I'll drive to London.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:34 am
by Symmetry
There's always the Bering Strait crossing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait_crossing

Re: One day I'll drive to London.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:53 am
by Dukasaur
Symmetry wrote:There's always the Bering Strait crossing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait_crossing

Old hat.
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Re: One day I'll drive to London.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:58 am
by Symmetry
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Is that not a link between Alaska and Russia?

Re: One day I'll drive to London.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:19 pm
by betiko
Dukasaur wrote:
betiko wrote:In terms of landscape i might make that road go a little more south when you don to work around the hImalayas.

Have you even looked at a globe? If you go any further south you will run into the Himalayas. That's part of the reason why the northern route works -- it's relatively flat.


If you are going to talk about efficiency, you might consider the airplane. Driving through the entire tundra is dumb as f*ck. If you have some cargo just use the trans siberian. If you are going to go for a trip for the trip you might want it to be interesting.

Re: One day I'll drive to London.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:44 pm
by Dukasaur
betiko wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
betiko wrote:In terms of landscape i might make that road go a little more south when you don to work around the hImalayas.

Have you even looked at a globe? If you go any further south you will run into the Himalayas. That's part of the reason why the northern route works -- it's relatively flat.


If you are going to talk about efficiency, you might consider the airplane. Driving through the entire tundra is dumb as f*ck. If you have some cargo just use the trans siberian. If you are going to go for a trip for the trip you might want it to be interesting.

If you want an interesting trip, take the side roads. Like it or not, superhighways are built for efficiency. Yes, it's true, planes are faster and trains are better for heavy cargo, but highways still have a place. Siberia has 30 million people, about the same as Canada, and Canada seems to find plenty of use for its highways.

Obviously some of the traffic would be tourists, but nobody builds a highway only for tourists. The highway still needs to carry its share of business and cargo traffic to justify the expense. I imagine a Siberian highway would be very much like the Yellowhead highway in western Canada, carrying 90% workers and equipment out to mines and construction sites, and maybe 10% tourist traffic in the summer.

Re: One day I'll drive to London.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:59 pm
by patches70
Dukasaur wrote: Yes, it's true, planes are faster and trains are better for heavy cargo, but highways still have a place.


haha! Yeah, I'd say so, since the majority of freight moving across the world most of it is moved by truck. Planes carry maybe 1% of total freight, railroads come in second but the truck moves more than anything else. So yeah, highways have a place. How many stores have a railway station at their back door?

Re: One day I'll drive to London.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:06 pm
by betiko
patches70 wrote:
Dukasaur wrote: Yes, it's true, planes are faster and trains are better for heavy cargo, but highways still have a place.


haha! Yeah, I'd say so, since the majority of freight moving across the world most of it is moved by truck. Planes carry maybe 1% of total freight, railroads come in second but the truck moves more than anything else. So yeah, highways have a place. How many stores have a railway station at their back door?


Trucks are placed on trains for more efficiency too you know? There is obviously nothing better than trucks for mid distances a and to get your cargo to its final destination. But you can just place those trucks on the trans siberian and stop where you need to.

Re: One day I'll drive to London.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:19 am
by waauw
Is it possible to drive accross the northpole in the winter? Like a route Canada/Alaska-Norway.
If so, that would be my preferred route :)

Re: One day I'll drive to London.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:34 am
by betiko
waauw wrote:Is it possible to drive accross the northpole in the winter? Like a route Canada/Alaska-Norway.
If so, that would be my preferred route :)


i saw a top gear episode where they drove to the north pole. that was freaking hard core. the ice isn't really flat to say the least. A car, even one super prepared doesn't sound like a good idea, mybe with a rat-track or some high tech giant snowbike with a cockpit