Phatscotty wrote:DaGip wrote:Phatscotty wrote:patriotism is shunned by many if not most in my society, but in al fairness we haven't had a real fight against a real enemy in a very long time.
Freedom, means two totally different things in my society. Many believe it means you can choose your life the way you see fit, many others believe since bettering yourself means putting in actual effort, sacrifice, and fortitude, that the only Freedom they can muster is the freedom to spend everyone elses money to give free stuff to people who will never truly value it because they didn't do the work themselves. They cannot understand the effort it took to earn that money, and they are on the path to never understanding, which only makes the empty void in them grow ever hungrier.
Same with Justice, 2 different meanings. Some believe in equal justice, other believe in the opposite, that being social justice.
Goddamn Welfare feeders! They do no work, yet they get all the benefits! f*ck! I just hate people that suck off of Uncle Sam's teet and just expect the working man to keep doling out their lifestyle! If you can't work...you don't eat! It's that simple! You can't work, you sleep on the street! Geesh! What's so hard to understand about this people!?
No need to go to extremes like that gip, at least start off like a normal person, and work your way up to guilt-libeling them to death and making them feel bad and playing on emotions. Nor is there is need to pretend abuse is not rampant, because it is. also there is a severe lack of gratitude. Whatever workers struggle to get for themselves as well as pitch in for everyone else, the worker never gets any credit and many people give credit to 'their' president even though the redistributory programs existed before they were ever elected, and the one who benefits never seems to be grateful and instead it's not abnormal for them to chide the worker for not giving more. Besides, I hadn't even addressed welfare, twas more along the lines, of 'health care should be free, and if you disagree you want old sick poor people to die!' and 'college should be free! and if you disagree you don't care about those who don't have a real shot at college'
I believe we can and should do more to encourage a hand up, rather than non-chalant handouts that don't seem to fix anything except for the dependence of the next generation who grew up on hand outs. That is'nt caring about them, as you seem to suggest. That is buying yourself warm n fuzzies while sweeping the real problems under the rug.
The point I was trying to make is that those workers that think things are so unfair because they have to pay into a welfare system (of which they may never partake), never really think about the people that truly need the service. They immediately think everyone is on the dole and that everybody on welfare are lazy, no-goods. I understand that there are those who siphon from the system when they shouldn't; however, if we dispose of the system (like what I hear from many ultra conservatives) what then would happen to these people that needed it? Do we then send them to charities and churches? No. The government is for the people and by the people. The welfare system was created by the people.
I'm not on welfare, I work full time; and now I am getting my hours cut strictly to 40 a week. I have to adjust my lifestyle and my spending to make the ends meet. Sometimes it does cross my mind about people on food stamps and why I can't get any? Just because I am buying a house and I work full time? Then I remember when I was homeless after 911, and the rich people forced entire neighborhoods to move out of their homes so that they could sell the house and keep up with their lifestyles. In addition, the business I was in happened to be telemarketing, and after 911 the telemarketing sector was gravely hit. So I lost my job and the house I was renting.
I delved into homelessness, because of many reasons. I spent the last of my money for a plane ticket to Hawaii to visit my older brother in the Marines. We were going to war with Iraq and I wanted to see my brother before he left for the Middle East. I used my last cent to go see him. Do you think I got a job in Hawaii? No. Hawaii has a different job market than the mainland. Did they want a homeless telemarketer? No. So I spent time in Hawaii totally homeless and living in a tent from beach to beach getting up at 5 AM to beat the park ranger out of the campground.
That's how it is when your homeless. Nobody wants you. Nobody wants to put up with you. Nobody wants to hear your story. You are just homeless. You are just a siphon off of America's titts.
I lived off of garbage to stay off of food stamps. I would spend time with people that had invited me to eat with them, and I didn't realize what I was doing. I was siphoning off of single individuals and becoming a burden to those people. Then an old Hawaiian asked me to fix his flat tire. I did. That Hawaiian then gave me five dollars (which was probably a lot of money for him). At first I didn't want it, but he insisted (isn't that how it always goes?). After I took the five bucks (it felt like a million to me...I am being serious) he told me to get in the car. So I did.
He drove me directly down to the welfare office and told me to go inside and get food stamps, because I was becoming a burden to those people around me. I listened to Harry the Kahuna, because I loved the guy. He was a Vietnam vet and I respected him, so I listened and did what he told me to do.
That's when I swallowed my pride and took the dole. The burden on
The People is by far less than the burden on
those people. Understand?
Because I had my own food stamps, I was actually more happy and emotionally/mentally more positive. Just from that bit of freedom that having food stamps allowed me to do in my life at that time. From that bit of freedom that
those people introduced me to. From that bit of freedom that The People put into place. From that bit of freedom that my brother and every other vet fought for in some God forsaken shit hole on the other side of the globe. Without it, I wouldn't be typing this...playing ConquerClub...driving in my own car to my job...paying the mortgage on my house so I won't be homeless! So I won't be hungry! So I won't be alone and have people despise me for being homeless, hungry, and alone.
But yet the system is rife with abuse.