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President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 10:08 am
by tzor
Thanks to the Right Scoop: President Erdogan of Turkey just gave a speech about INVADING Jerusalem

Let's cut to the important parts of his statement.

Unfortunately we the Muslims lost our aim to head towards Jerusalem. The water of our eyes froze making us blind, and our hearts that was destined to beat for Jerusalem is now instead conditioned for rivalry being in a state of war with each other.
raise their hands in supplication for this blessed night towards Allah to restore the Al-Aqsa Mosque [Jerusalem] to be re-owned by Muslims, and to remove the mist from their eyes, to see Jerusalem in their hands at every moment and at every opportunity
Jerusalem belongs to the Muslims, not to the Jews… Jerusalem our home and our Jerusalem


This is only natural because as ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi pointed out, "Islam is The Religion of War."

Where are you in relation to your prophet (peace be upon him) whom you claim to emulate, and who spent his whole life … as a mujahid for the cause of Allah, fighting for his enemies? His lateral incisor tooth was broken in battle, his forehead was wounded, two rings from his chainmail cut his cheeks, his helmet was broken on his head and blood ran down his face.

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 10:32 am
by khazalid
you forgot to mention he endured 18 weeks of red raw ball-chafing thanks to his rusted codpiece.

helluva guy

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 12:21 pm
by saxitoxin
tzor wrote:Thanks to the Right Scoop: President Erdogan of Turkey just gave a speech about INVADING Jerusalem

Let's cut to the important parts of his statement.

Unfortunately we the Muslims lost our aim to head towards Jerusalem. The water of our eyes froze making us blind, and our hearts that was destined to beat for Jerusalem is now instead conditioned for rivalry being in a state of war with each other.
raise their hands in supplication for this blessed night towards Allah to restore the Al-Aqsa Mosque [Jerusalem] to be re-owned by Muslims, and to remove the mist from their eyes, to see Jerusalem in their hands at every moment and at every opportunity
Jerusalem belongs to the Muslims, not to the Jews… Jerusalem our home and our Jerusalem


This is only natural because as ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi pointed out, "Islam is The Religion of War."

Where are you in relation to your prophet (peace be upon him) whom you claim to emulate, and who spent his whole life … as a mujahid for the cause of Allah, fighting for his enemies? His lateral incisor tooth was broken in battle, his forehead was wounded, two rings from his chainmail cut his cheeks, his helmet was broken on his head and blood ran down his face.


No. I hate to defend Erdogan, but he never said "Jerusalem belongs to the Muslims, not to the Jews."

The claim originated on the personal blog of Walid Shoebat, who is a well known con-man. (A few years ago Shoebat ran a con on gullible Evangelical Christians - he claimed he was an ex PLO insurgent and a Muslim who converted to Christianity. That was Christmas in July for looney-tune Evangelicals and they threw a bunch of cash at him. He was later investigated for fraud after it turned out his charity didn't exist, he was using all the money on himself, and he had never been affiliated with the PLO. It's actually a rather ingenious scam targeting a very gullible sector of the population and I've often thought of running it myself and then donating the money to ANERA, St John of Jerusalem, or some other charity they'd find infuriating.)

Tzor - I want to try to put this as gently as possible, but you should probably work on acquiring some some basic critical thinking skills. It seems this isn't the first time you've been duped by a very well-known fraud and much of your understanding of the world around you appears to be based on the assorted cons and hijinx you've fallen for ... out of curiosity, are you in correspondence with any members of the Nigerian royal family?

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 7:46 pm
by saxitoxin
Knights of Columbus - "WE WILL CRUSH THE HEADS OF INFANTS"

I just found, on a blog, the oath of the Knights of Columbus! Here's part of it ...

"I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex, or condition, and that will hang, bum, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants' heads against the wails in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same can not be done openly, I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus."

http://www.american-buddha.com/illum.ex ... esuits.htm


I found this on the internet so I'm certain it's true. Plus, I heard them talk about it on the Jeff Rense radio show, so that essentially confirms it. Even if I hadn't "double confirmed" it like that, it would only be reasonable and responsible for me to spread this information as loudly and widely as I could to anyone who would listen, just to be on the safe side.

Keep in mind, America is a Protestant nation, founded on Protestantism and Protestant values. Of 59 signers of the Declaration of Independence, only 1 was Catholic and he was non-practicing. Catholicism is not part of the traditional American experience. Catholics are raised with a set of experiences different from those of normal Americans.

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 11:20 pm
by mrswdk
Well it sounds like tzor's source is a real... turkey.

Image

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 11:38 am
by DoomYoshi
those kocsuckers

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 2:06 pm
by tzor
saxitoxin wrote:I just found, on a blog, the oath of the Knights of Columbus! Here's part of it ...


That is not an oath of the Knights of Columbus. This is from a source that suggests that the assassination of Lincoln was a result of Jesuits. As a result I would generally consider it anti-Papist Know Nothing garbage. Probably the precursor to Chick Lit. So without that, let's look at the Godless Wikipedia.

Knights of Columbus

Persecution by the Ku Klux Klan

Not long after the establishment of the Fourth Degree, during the nadir of American race relations, a bogus oath was circulated claiming that Fourth Degree Knights swore to exterminate Freemasons and Protestants, as well as flay, burn alive, boil, kill, and otherwise torture anyone, including women and children, when called upon to do so by church authorities.[32][33] "It is a strange paradox", according to some commentators, that the degree devoted to patriotism should be accused of anti-Americanism.[34]

The "bogus oath" was based on a previous oath falsely attributed to the Jesuits more than three centuries earlier.[35] The Ku Klux Klan, which was growing into a powerful force through the 1920s, spread the bogus oath far and wide as part of their campaign against Catholics,[36] and in the 1928 Presidential election a million copies were printed to hurt Catholic Democratic candidate Al Smith. The oath was even read into the Congressional Record by Thomas S. Butler,[37] and refuted by the Committee of Public Information, a war time propaganda agency of the US Government.[34]

Among other statements made by the Klan, it was claimed that Knights were only loyal to the pope and that they advocated for the overthrow of the United States government.[38] Across the country, local, state, and the Supreme Councils offered rewards to anyone who could prove that the oath was authentic.[39] No one could, but that did not stop the Klan from continuing to publish and distribute copies. As it was believed that this "violent wave of religious prejudice was actuated by mercenary motives", and that publication would stop if fines were imposed and jail time assessed, numerous state councils and the Supreme Council began suing distributors for libel.[38] It did, but the Order did not wish to be seen as if they were motivated by a "vengeful spirit", and so asked for leniency from judges when sentencing.[38]

To help combat this misconception of what the Fourth Degree was about, the actual oath taken by Fourth Degree members was also submitted to various groups of prominent non-Catholic men around the country for them to examine, many of whom made public declarations attesting to the loyalty and patriotism of the Knights.[40] After examining the actual oath, a committee of high ranking California Freemasons, a group singled out for violence in the bogus oath, declared in 1914:

The ceremonial of the Order [of the Knights of Columbus] teaches a high and noble patriotism, instills a love of country, inculcates a reverence of civic duty and holds up the Constitution of our Country as the richest and most precious possession of a Knight of the Order.[41]


32 Kauffman 1982, p. 171.
33 Egan & Kennedy 1920, p. 120.
34 Egan & Kennedy 1920, p. 121.
35 Kauffman 1982, p. 169.
36 Kauffman 1982, p. 276.
37 "Great & Fake Oath". Time. 1928-09-03. Archived from the original on 2008-04-01. Retrieved 6 February 2015.
38 Kauffman 1982, p. 277.
39 Kauffman 1982, p. 278.
40 Egan & Kennedy 1920, p. 122.
41 Egan & Kennedy 1920, p. 127.

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 2:11 pm
by saxitoxin
tzor wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:I just found, on a blog, the oath of the Knights of Columbus! Here's part of it ...


That is not an oath of the Knights of Columbus. This is from a source that suggests that the assassination of Lincoln was a result of Jesuits. As a result I would generally consider it anti-Papist Know Nothing garbage. Probably the precursor to Chick Lit. So without that, let's look at the Godless Wikipedia.

Knights of Columbus

Persecution by the Ku Klux Klan

Not long after the establishment of the Fourth Degree, during the nadir of American race relations, a bogus oath was circulated claiming that Fourth Degree Knights swore to exterminate Freemasons and Protestants, as well as flay, burn alive, boil, kill, and otherwise torture anyone, including women and children, when called upon to do so by church authorities.[32][33] "It is a strange paradox", according to some commentators, that the degree devoted to patriotism should be accused of anti-Americanism.[34]

The "bogus oath" was based on a previous oath falsely attributed to the Jesuits more than three centuries earlier.[35] The Ku Klux Klan, which was growing into a powerful force through the 1920s, spread the bogus oath far and wide as part of their campaign against Catholics,[36] and in the 1928 Presidential election a million copies were printed to hurt Catholic Democratic candidate Al Smith. The oath was even read into the Congressional Record by Thomas S. Butler,[37] and refuted by the Committee of Public Information, a war time propaganda agency of the US Government.[34]

Among other statements made by the Klan, it was claimed that Knights were only loyal to the pope and that they advocated for the overthrow of the United States government.[38] Across the country, local, state, and the Supreme Councils offered rewards to anyone who could prove that the oath was authentic.[39] No one could, but that did not stop the Klan from continuing to publish and distribute copies. As it was believed that this "violent wave of religious prejudice was actuated by mercenary motives", and that publication would stop if fines were imposed and jail time assessed, numerous state councils and the Supreme Council began suing distributors for libel.[38] It did, but the Order did not wish to be seen as if they were motivated by a "vengeful spirit", and so asked for leniency from judges when sentencing.[38]

To help combat this misconception of what the Fourth Degree was about, the actual oath taken by Fourth Degree members was also submitted to various groups of prominent non-Catholic men around the country for them to examine, many of whom made public declarations attesting to the loyalty and patriotism of the Knights.[40] After examining the actual oath, a committee of high ranking California Freemasons, a group singled out for violence in the bogus oath, declared in 1914:

The ceremonial of the Order [of the Knights of Columbus] teaches a high and noble patriotism, instills a love of country, inculcates a reverence of civic duty and holds up the Constitution of our Country as the richest and most precious possession of a Knight of the Order.[41]


32 Kauffman 1982, p. 171.
33 Egan & Kennedy 1920, p. 120.
34 Egan & Kennedy 1920, p. 121.
35 Kauffman 1982, p. 169.
36 Kauffman 1982, p. 276.
37 "Great & Fake Oath". Time. 1928-09-03. Archived from the original on 2008-04-01. Retrieved 6 February 2015.
38 Kauffman 1982, p. 277.
39 Kauffman 1982, p. 278.
40 Egan & Kennedy 1920, p. 122.
41 Egan & Kennedy 1920, p. 127.


So you mean you can't believe everything you read on anonymous conspiracy sites written by internet randos?

/thread

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 2:44 pm
by tzor
saxitoxin wrote:So you mean you can't believe everything you read on anonymous conspiracy sites written by internet randos?


No it means you can't believe everything that is read into the Congressional Record. :twisted:

It was actually read into the Congressional Record, but it was wrong.

Your left handed smoke bender to try to deflect the issue is not working.

So let's get to the various postings of this article.

There's Brietbart

Erdogan is known for his anti-Semitic views. Breitbart London documented the many times Erdogan spewed his anti-Israel rhetoric since he was mayor of Istanbul. He has previously suggested that Turkey must restore the Ottoman Empire, which collapsed after World War I. The American Jewish Congress awarded then-Prime Minister Erdogan an award for attempting to seek peace in the Middle East, but withdrew it in July 2014 after he said Israel’s attacks on Gaza amounted to genocide against the Palestinians. A few days later, the Israel Tax Authority inspected a package from Turkey to Gaza and found ball bearings – material that could be used in bombs or other explosives – inside a chocolate mixer. He even said Israel was worse than Adolf Hitler. During a mine disaster protest, Erdogan called one protester “Israeli sperm,” and his security personnel beat the protester after the confrontation.


On a related note, here is a New York Times Article about the hard line Turkey is giving against the mass killings of Armenians in Ottoman Turkey

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 3:03 pm
by saxitoxin
Tzor, a word of advice: you should let this thread die so you don't embarrass yourself any further. With your last post you've gone from sounding like a mild, garden-variety conspiracy loon duped into participating in a racist whisper campaign to someone who is, quite possibly, functionally illiterate. Since you apparently missed it the first time I'm going to copy-paste from above:

    tzor wrote:Let's cut to the important parts of his statement.

    Jerusalem belongs to the Muslims, not to the Jews… Jerusalem our home and our Jerusalem


    No. I hate to defend Erdogan, but he never said "Jerusalem belongs to the Muslims, not to the Jews."

    The claim originated on the personal blog of Walid Shoebat, who is a well known con-man. (A few years ago Shoebat ran a con on gullible Evangelical Christians - he claimed he was an ex PLO insurgent and a Muslim who converted to Christianity. That was Christmas in July for looney-tune Evangelicals and they threw a bunch of cash at him. He was later investigated for fraud after it turned out his charity didn't exist, he was using all the money on himself, and he had never been affiliated with the PLO. It's actually a rather ingenious scam targeting a very gullible sector of the population and I've often thought of running it myself and then donating the money to ANERA, St John of Jerusalem, or some other charity they'd find infuriating.)

    Tzor - I want to try to put this as gently as possible, but you should probably work on acquiring some some basic critical thinking skills. It seems this isn't the first time you've been duped by a very well-known fraud and much of your understanding of the world around you appears to be based on the assorted cons and hijinx you've fallen for ... out of curiosity, are you in correspondence with any members of the Nigerian royal family?

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 6:28 pm
by DoomYoshi
This seems like a good thread to post videos of my favorite Israeli band:

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 7:35 pm
by 2dimes
DoomYoshi wrote:This seems like a good thread to post videos of my favorite Israeli band:

Mine is Monotonix.

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 9:18 am
by tzor
saxitoxin wrote:Tzor, a word of advice: you should let this thread die so you don't embarrass yourself any further. With your last post you've gone from sounding like a mild, garden-variety conspiracy loon duped into participating in a racist whisper campaign to someone who is, quite possibly, functionally illiterate. Since you apparently missed it the first time I'm going to copy-paste from above:


Really you should let this thread die. People are starting to realize you are that passive aggressive nut job that spouts anti-Semitic nonsense and paranoia about the only actual democracy in the middle east. The more you write the more people are going to know you are bat shit insane. Please, do continue. :twisted:

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 12:29 pm
by saxitoxin
tzor wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Tzor, a word of advice: you should let this thread die so you don't embarrass yourself any further. With your last post you've gone from sounding like a mild, garden-variety conspiracy loon duped into participating in a racist whisper campaign to someone who is, quite possibly, functionally illiterate. Since you apparently missed it the first time I'm going to copy-paste from above:


Really you should let this thread die. People are starting to realize you are that passive aggressive nut job that spouts anti-Semitic nonsense and paranoia about the only actual democracy in the middle east. The more you write the more people are going to know you are bat shit insane. Please, do continue. :twisted:


You keep manically deleting the part where you were duped, once again, for another well-known urban legend from one of the white supremacist conspiracy blogs you eat and breath. Here it is again, you racist old kook ...

    tzor wrote:Let's cut to the important parts of his statement.

    Jerusalem belongs to the Muslims, not to the Jews… Jerusalem our home and our Jerusalem


    No. I hate to defend Erdogan, but he never said "Jerusalem belongs to the Muslims, not to the Jews."

    The claim originated on the personal blog of Walid Shoebat, who is a well known con-man. (A few years ago Shoebat ran a con on gullible Evangelical Christians - he claimed he was an ex PLO insurgent and a Muslim who converted to Christianity. That was Christmas in July for looney-tune Evangelicals and they threw a bunch of cash at him. He was later investigated for fraud after it turned out his charity didn't exist, he was using all the money on himself, and he had never been affiliated with the PLO. It's actually a rather ingenious scam targeting a very gullible sector of the population and I've often thought of running it myself and then donating the money to ANERA, St John of Jerusalem, or some other charity they'd find infuriating.)

    Tzor - I want to try to put this as gently as possible, but you should probably work on acquiring some some basic critical thinking skills. It seems this isn't the first time you've been duped by a very well-known fraud and much of your understanding of the world around you appears to be based on the assorted cons and hijinx you've fallen for ... out of curiosity, are you in correspondence with any members of the Nigerian royal family?

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 1:10 pm
by tzor
Let it go, Saxi, let it go.

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 1:22 pm
by saxitoxin
tzor wrote:Let it go, Saxi, let it go.


So you're not even going to try to offer a feeble explanation of how you were, once again, duped by a con-man from one of the white supremacist blogs you keep sourcing here? Not even a half-hearted defense "well, uh, uh, I didn't read closely enough"? Tzor - are you a high school graduate?

Here, again, in all its glory, is from Tzor's OP that he is desperately trying not to revisit as his face gets redder and redder:

    tzor wrote:Let's cut to the important parts of his statement.

    Jerusalem belongs to the Muslims, not to the Jews… Jerusalem our home and our Jerusalem


    No. I hate to defend Erdogan, but he never said "Jerusalem belongs to the Muslims, not to the Jews."

    The claim originated on the personal blog of Walid Shoebat, who is a well known con-man. (A few years ago Shoebat ran a con on gullible Evangelical Christians - he claimed he was an ex PLO insurgent and a Muslim who converted to Christianity. That was Christmas in July for looney-tune Evangelicals and they threw a bunch of cash at him. He was later investigated for fraud after it turned out his charity didn't exist, he was using all the money on himself, and he had never been affiliated with the PLO. It's actually a rather ingenious scam targeting a very gullible sector of the population and I've often thought of running it myself and then donating the money to ANERA, St John of Jerusalem, or some other charity they'd find infuriating.)

    Tzor - I want to try to put this as gently as possible, but you should probably work on acquiring some some basic critical thinking skills. It seems this isn't the first time you've been duped by a very well-known fraud and much of your understanding of the world around you appears to be based on the assorted cons and hijinx you've fallen for ... out of curiosity, are you in correspondence with any members of the Nigerian royal family?

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 1:23 pm
by tzor
You're not going to give an explanation of how you are changing your avatar every other day.

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 1:27 pm
by saxitoxin
Keep dodging and ducking, tzor! Here, again, in all its glory, is from Tzor's OP that he is desperately trying not to revisit as his face gets redder and redder. Will tzor ever address the most recent White Supremacist whisper campaign he's been posting to Conquer Club? Tzor Watch Day 3.

    tzor wrote:Let's cut to the important parts of his statement.

    Jerusalem belongs to the Muslims, not to the Jews… Jerusalem our home and our Jerusalem


    No. I hate to defend Erdogan, but he never said "Jerusalem belongs to the Muslims, not to the Jews."

    The claim originated on the personal blog of Walid Shoebat, who is a well known con-man. (A few years ago Shoebat ran a con on gullible Evangelical Christians - he claimed he was an ex PLO insurgent and a Muslim who converted to Christianity. That was Christmas in July for looney-tune Evangelicals and they threw a bunch of cash at him. He was later investigated for fraud after it turned out his charity didn't exist, he was using all the money on himself, and he had never been affiliated with the PLO. It's actually a rather ingenious scam targeting a very gullible sector of the population and I've often thought of running it myself and then donating the money to ANERA, St John of Jerusalem, or some other charity they'd find infuriating.)

    Tzor - I want to try to put this as gently as possible, but you should probably work on acquiring some some basic critical thinking skills. It seems this isn't the first time you've been duped by a very well-known fraud and much of your understanding of the world around you appears to be based on the assorted cons and hijinx you've fallen for ... out of curiosity, are you in correspondence with any members of the Nigerian royal family?

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 1:44 pm
by notyou2
But, but, but, Saxi, he sooo desperately WANTS to believe. That MUST count for something?

Anything?

Maybe facilitate the second coming a little quicker?

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 1:46 pm
by saxitoxin
notyou2 wrote:But, but, but, Saxi, he sooo desperately WANTS to believe. That MUST count for something?

Anything?

Maybe facilitate the second coming a little quicker?


If he hits a certain post count, God has promised he'll get two free drinks coupons in the chariot that comes to take him to paradise.

(God didn't actually tell him this, but he did read it on an extremely trustworthy Reddit thread.)

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 9:50 pm
by mrswdk
2dimes wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:This seems like a good thread to post videos of my favorite Israeli band:

Mine is Monotonix.


Mine is Infected Mushroom (mostly because I'm not aware of any other Israeli bands).

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 1:23 pm
by tzor
notyou2 wrote:But, but, but, Saxi, he sooo desperately WANTS to believe. That MUST count for something?


What am I supposed to believe?

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 7:25 am
by notyou2
Not the farce that is religion

Not what the oil companies want you to believe

Not what the political parties are feeding you

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 5:39 pm
by DoomYoshi
mrswdk wrote:
2dimes wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:This seems like a good thread to post videos of my favorite Israeli band:

Mine is Monotonix.


Mine is Infected Mushroom (mostly because I'm not aware of any other Israeli bands).


Hey, that's my reason!

Re: President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:50 pm
by 2dimes
DoomYoshi wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
2dimes wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:This seems like a good thread to post videos of my favorite Israeli band:

Mine is Monotonix.


Mine is Infected Mushroom (mostly because I'm not aware of any other Israeli bands).


Hey, that's my reason!

Monotonix broke up. The guitarist has a new band that is not as rockin'.