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How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 10:44 pm
by macbone
I saw this article today about a Kenyan man offering a herd of 150 cows, sheep and goats for Malila Obama. She's 16 now, and this guy says he's had his eye on her since 2008. So she would have been, what, 9 years old? That's pretty terrifying.

Felix Kiprono said his dream is to marry 16-year-old Malia Obama - and he is ready to meet her father to discuss the matter when the president visits Kenya in July.
He is offering up 50 cows, 70 sheep and 30 goats for the president's eldest daughter to marry him.

The young lawyer claims money has nothing to do it and his love is real, not an infatuation, and if the president agrees to his request he plans to surprise Malia with a special Kenyan tradition which involves tying a plant around her head and feeding her mursik, a Kalenjin sour milk.

He said: "I got interested in her in 2008.

"As a matter of fact, I haven't dated anyone since and promise to be faithful to her.

"I have shared this with my family and they are willing to help me raise the bride price."


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/579 ... hter-Malia

Shades of King of Dragon Pass.

I was once asked how much livestock I'd given my in-laws for my wife by a Nigerian guy. Sadly, none, although dowries are standard in China - I was a poor grad student at the time, and she really had no business marrying me, but she did anyway. (=

How much is too much for a bride?

Also, 9-year-olds, dude?

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 10:50 pm
by nietzsche
one cow for another cow seems a fair trade.

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 11:10 pm
by mrswdk
Why would you pay a dowry for your wife? Dowries are paid by the bride's family.

And dowries are only for farmers and tuhao anyway.

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 11:15 pm
by Army of GOD
I'd give them my best pig, nietzsche

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 12:13 am
by khazalid
hey mrs, a lvl. 3 pidgey will suffice. (k)

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 12:46 am
by mrswdk
khazalid wrote:hey mrs, a lvl. 3 pidgey will suffice. (k)


Oh baby, you're worth more than that and don't let the haters tell you otherwise.

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:08 am
by khazalid
Pidgey, return!

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:26 am
by macbone
http://qz.com/92267/in-a-reversal-of-th ... ir-brides/

China’s recent crackdown on luxury goods may be overlooking a wildly popular big-ticket item: brides.

Shanghai grooms typically have to pay their would-be wives a “bride price,” which starts at 100,000 yuan ($16,300). That’s according to a national map (registration required) of bride prices—a kind of reverse-dowry in which men pay a woman and her family in order to marry her. The map, which was created by the Chongqing divisions of Vanke, a real estate company, and Sina’s real estate channel, has sparked debate around the nation about how the bride price tradition reflects an obsession with materialism and makes it hard for young Chinese couples to start families.


Selling daughters has never been more profitable!

But it makes sense. When a woman marries in China, she becomes part of her husband's family, and children are basically parents' retirement security, taking care of the parents when they're old.
I did feel kind of cheap not ponying up money for my wife's family. It's the opposite of the U.S., where the bride's family pays for the wedding. In China, the groom foots the bill. 150 goats, sheep, and cattle sounds like a bargain.


Beijing: A proposed love marriage between an Australian man and his Chinese fiancee is stuck over a hefty dowry demanded by the girl's parents as 'bride price', a custom in several countries.

Su Mo, a young Chinese lady, met her fiance Dyke, an Australian, in Xi'an, located in China's central-northwest region. The couple, after dating for three years, planned to get married in Australia during New Year.

However, as the big day approaches, the two families have found themselves in dispute over dowry, state-run People's Daily reported.

Su's parents have asked for $16,000 as a 'bride price'.

Bride price, also known as bride token, is an amount of money or property or wealth paid by the groom or his family to the parents of a woman upon the marriage of their daughter to the groom.

However, Su said that her fiance had not worked for long and has few savings and explained the matter to her parents.

"To my astonishment, my father wants my parents-in-law to pay the rest of the dowry" she said.

Su's Australian would-be mother-in-law refused to consider the proposal saying "No! No way!," the newspaper reported.

Caught in a dilemma over western parents' independent living and Chinese joint family system, Su said she has no idea how to deal with the cultural gap between a Chinese family and an Australian on education and customs. Even in China, a dowry claim of $16,000 or more is an exception rather than a norm.


http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/chinese- ... and-715779

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:54 am
by notyou2
I am willing to provide a Llama that plays risk for a cute Chinese girl.

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:12 am
by mrswdk
macbone wrote:
Su's parents have asked for $16,000 as a 'bride price'.

Bride price, also known as bride token, is an amount of money or property or wealth paid by the groom or his family to the parents of a woman upon the marriage of their daughter to the groom.

However, Su said that her fiance had not worked for long and has few savings and explained the matter to her parents.


ROFL

Their daughter meets a foreigner who lives in Xi'an and they think that he's a golden ticket that can be squeezed for $16,000/100,000RMB? What a pair of hillbillies.

Even better, this situation is inevitably going to result in a stalemate in which the Su family refuse to go back on their demands and the anonymous Australian family refuse to stump up the cash. So now Su Mo gets to choose between eloping with her unemployable lover and estranging her parents, or remaining faithful to her parents and ditching her white chocolate. Who will Su Mo pick? I'm excited to find out!

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:12 pm
by smegal69
My mate payed 9 Head of stock for his wife in East Timor, and that was a bargain as it can cost up to 70 water buffalo.
but we did also supply 1 pig, 3 goats and a couple of creates of chickens for the wedding feast

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 3:33 am
by macbone
None of this compares to the dowries some parents give their daughters, though.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... igger.html

Yesterday , after eight days of feasting and celebration, Wu Yanrong’s wedding banquet came to an end. Just before the new year, the 26-year-old, her dark hair woven in a braid, put on a traditional Chinese red wedding dress, embroidered with a dragon and phoenix to symbolise a harmonious union.

In her bedroom, she found four boxes of gold jewellery, share certificates in her father’s kitchen and bathroom tile company worth some £10 million, and a bank book showing deposits of £2 million.

Then there were the keys to several villas, a shop, and, outside in the drive, a new Porsche tied up in a red ribbon. Altogether, it made up a lavish dowry from her father, Wu Ruibiao, of some £100 million.

...

One 72-year-old resident of Jinjiang recalls that in the 1950s, in the early years of Communism, a wedding would consist simply of some musicians and a sedan chair for the bride.

A decade later and there was a fad for black and white wedding pictures. “Everyone longed to have a simple photo and the dowry would also include a book of Mao’s speeches and a tin wash basin,” says the man, who only gives his name as Mr Wu. “By the 1970s, bicycles and sewing machines were the most popular dowries.”

But in the 1980s, as the area began to get rich, bicycles gave way to televisions and then to motorbikes, and then to BMWs, Audis and Porsches and villas and apartments. Today, the standard practice is for a father to give a quarter to a third of his wealth to his daughter on her marriage, which typically represents her future inheritance.


http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/ ... aden-dowry

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Mrswdk can translate that, but the SCMP says the headline reads “Marrying a Jinjiang bride is better than robbing a bank".
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Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:29 am
by mrswdk
The main headline says 'Rich Fujian woman's 250 million dowry' (福建富豪嫁女2.5億嫁妝).

As the commenters at the bottom of the SCMP article point out, 2.5億 means 250million, not 2.5billion. The author of that article is clearly an American spy and not a real Chinese.

But yeah, that's about USD35million and still probably better than robbing a bank 8)

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:43 am
by mrswdk
Although if you rob a bank then you might get less money but at least you won't spend the rest of your life being followed around by some nouveaux riche whore constantly demanding you buy everyone in her family Bentleys for their birthdays.

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:18 am
by khazalid
amen. i quite like the rich milf attention though. yes, i am adorable playing with your little sprog - now how about a tip and a handjob?

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:15 pm
by notyou2
umm....*quietly backs out of thread*

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 5:38 am
by mrswdk
khazalid wrote:amen. i quite like the rich milf attention though. yes, i am adorable playing with your little sprog - now how about a tip and a handjob?


Mirror mirror on the wall, will khaz end up disappearing into his local police station's basement for a week or two after the local mayor finds out who it is that's been stretching out his wife's vajayjay?

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 1:28 am
by macbone
mrswdk wrote:The main headline says 'Rich Fujian woman's 250 million dowry' (福建富豪嫁女2.5億嫁妝).

As the commenters at the bottom of the SCMP article point out, 2.5億 means 250million, not 2.5billion. The author of that article is clearly an American spy and not a real Chinese.

But yeah, that's about USD35million and still probably better than robbing a bank 8)


Tsk, tsk. Honestly, I'm not surprised. The level of English proficiency continues to decline here. =)

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 1:42 am
by Funkyterrance
I'd be willing to pay one ten year old billy goat for Andy dufresne's anal virginity.

Re: How much livestock would you pay for a bride?

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 6:35 am
by khazalid
Funkyterrance wrote:I'd be willing to pay one ten year old billy goat for Andy dufresne's anal virginity.


strictly 'bring your own time machine' for that particular fantasy.

'leaves behind a bowl of bananas'. *ahem*