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Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:08 am
by DoomYoshi
GQ published some bullshit:
http://www.gq.com/news-politics/201506/silicon-valley-is-a-lie?mbid=nl_20150622_daily&spMailingID=7847311&spUserID=NjEyMzM0NzY0ODMS1&spJobID=702733860&spReportId=NzAyNzMzODYwS0

Myth #1: Silicon Valley Is the Universe's Only True Meritocracy

Everyone in Silicon Valley has convinced himself he's helped create a free-market paradise, the software successor to Jefferson's brotherhood of noble yeomen. "Silicon Valley has this way of finding greatness and supporting it," said a member of Greylock Partners, a major venture-capital firm with over $2 billion under management. "It values meritocracy more than anyplace else." After complaints of the start-up economy's profound whiteness reached mainstream discussion just last year, companies like Apple, Facebook, and Twitter reluctantly released internal diversity reports. The results were as homogenized as expected: At Twitter, 79 percent of the leadership is male and 72 percent of it is white. At Facebook, senior positions are 77 percent male and 74 percent white. Twitter—a company whose early success can be directly attributed to the pioneering downloads of black smartphone users—hosts an entirely white board of directors. It's a pounding indictment of Silicon Valley's corporate psyche that Mark Zuckerberg—a bourgeois white kid from suburban New York who attended Harvard—is considered the Horatio Alger 2.0 paragon. When Paul Graham, the then head of the massive start-up incubator Y Combinator, told The New York Times that he could "be tricked by anyone who looks like Mark Zuckerberg," he wasn't just talking about Zuck's youth.

If there's any reassuring news, it's not that tech's diversity crisis is getting better, but that in the face of so much dismal news, people are becoming angry enough and brave enough to admit that the state of things is not good. Silicon Valley loves data, after all, and with data readily demonstrating tech's overwhelming white-guy problem, even the true believers in meritocracy see the circumstances as they actually are.

Earlier this year, Ellen Pao became the most mentioned name in Silicon Valley as her gender-discrimination suit against her former employer, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, played out in court. Although the jury sided with the legendary VC firm, the Pao case was a watershed moment, bringing sunlight and national scrutiny to the issue of unchecked Valley sexism. For every defeated Ellen Pao, we can hope there are a hundred other female technology workers who feel new courage to speak up against wrongdoing, and a thousand male co-workers and employers who'll reconsider their boys'-club bullshit. But they've got their work cut out for them.


It isn't a myth. White protestant men are better than others at everything else, except sports. Deal with it.

Re: Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:30 am
by khazalid
multi-tasking? eating watermelon?

are you, perchance, sporting a bow-tie?

Re: Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:32 am
by DoomYoshi
khazalid wrote:multi-tasking? eating watermelon?

are you, perchance, sporting a bow-tie?


I can multi-task effectively better than most. I can do a puzzle, live track 20 GPS systems and talk on the phone at the same time.

I will give you the watermelon one, I suck at that. There are no nutrients. Supplements would be better, or GM watermelon.

I will be in 5.5 hours.

Re: Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:33 am
by khazalid
swag

Re: Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:03 pm
by saxitoxin
GQ


YOU WOULD READ GQ

SORRY FOR SHOUTING, CAPS LOCK IS STUCK

Re: Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:19 pm
by TA1LGUNN3R
saxitoxin wrote:
GQ


YOU WOULD READ GQ

SORRY FOR SHOUTING, CAPS LOCK IS STUCK


Or just old and deaf...

-TG

Re: Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:35 pm
by Metsfanmax
DoomYoshi wrote:The results were as homogenized as expected: At Twitter, 79 percent of the leadership is male and 72 percent of it is white.


Notably left out of this discussion: statistics on the demographics of people who graduate with CS or related degrees. When you account for that, there isn't so much of a Silicon Valley problem as a society problem.

Re: Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:18 pm
by saxitoxin
According to this, 99.7% of midwives are female. No idea if it's true or not, site looks kinda sketchy.

Re: Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:41 am
by muy_thaiguy
saxitoxin wrote:According to this, 99.7% of midwives are female. No idea if it's true or not, site looks kinda sketchy.

Are you a midwife saxi?

Re: Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:19 am
by mrswdk
At the organization I work at, roughly a third of the employees are male.

Management should immediately begin firing women and replacing them with men.

Re: Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:09 am
by saxitoxin
mrswdk wrote:At the organization I work at, roughly a third of the employees are male.

Management should immediately begin firing women and replacing them with men.


that'd be a pretty lousy strip club if they did

Re: Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:36 pm
by muy_thaiguy
saxitoxin wrote:
mrswdk wrote:At the organization I work at, roughly a third of the employees are male.

Management should immediately begin firing women and replacing them with men.


that'd be a pretty lousy strip club if they did

It's not though, it's a Hooters.

Re: Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:11 pm
by Army of GOD
Doesn't mrswdk work at an iPhone factory?

Re: Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:46 pm
by /
I would argue that regardless of the companies that comprise it, the industry of Silicon Valley itself is Meritocratic. Regardless of your background, finances, or physical traits, as long as you are smart, hard working, or best of all; unscrupulous, you can prosper. It's one of the few jobs since privateering where you too can steal like Thomas Edison, exploit like a colonial empire, and still become filthy rich and beloved by all.

Re: Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:52 pm
by saxitoxin
muy_thaiguy wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:According to this, 99.7% of midwives are female. No idea if it's true or not, site looks kinda sketchy.

Are you a midwife saxi?


No, merely an armchair placenta aficionado.

Re: Time to Face the Facts

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:03 am
by muy_thaiguy
Army of GOD wrote:Doesn't mrswdk work at an iPhone factory?

You mean a jPhone factory.