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Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:59 am
by Symmetry
Now nobody here who's been on CC for any length of time will be unaware that there is a lot of homophobic bullying on the site.

I've been on the receiving end of much of it. I've been pushed a lot into positions where I treat every post as hostile, had calls for my death up for polls, received sexually explicit PMs calling me PMs. Hell, I was banned for using the word "gay". Do you think things are getting better?

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:18 am
by muy_thaiguy
Depends on the person. Some people on here don't have an issue. Others have made it perfectly clear that they view homosexuals as less than human (and had an odd way derogatory word, though I don't know if you were around during that) , while still others haven't really said one way or another.

Personally, I have no problems with you or any other homosexual. I don't judge people in general on such things for a variety of reasons. First and foremost, you're attracted to whom you're attracted to, it's between consenting adults, and everyone has the right to love who they want to. Sadly, there are always people that will hate simply because it is easier to hate than to understand or at least leave alone.

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:06 am
by DaGip
Everybody's too scared to post in this thread; therefor, I will post for all the homophobic CC patrons that would like to post something but feel if they do post something, somehow they will magically turn gay.

WHY CAN'T ALL GAY PEOPLE BE LIKE ANDERSON COOPER???
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There. I said it.

And being gay is funny, it makes straight people chuckle...and then they f*ck. What better meaning of the word?

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:28 am
by MagnusGreeol
- I don't see the big hub bub about anyone taking offense to anything these days, Unless your saying somehing insulting or to hurt my family or friends, You can call me whatever your sick little mind wants to, Words do not hurt me personally, Unless a punch is thrown or a good argument is at hand, I could care less. My 14 year old daughter hangs out with a boy Tyler, good kid, and is openly gay, when I was 14 no one ever let it be known until after high school. Being who you are in 2015 is not bad, there will always be 12-15 year old minds looking to make fun of anything they can, So I say this, Don't let a 12-15 year old mind get ya down. Thicken the skin a bit, and who gives a shit what anyone says, the only people you care about really, Is your family,friends, and your partner, whether male or female. Bad people say and act badly, If you know your a good person then that's your peace.

\MGM/♎

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:45 am
by PLAYER57832
Symmetry wrote:Now nobody here who's been on CC for any length of time will be unaware that there is a lot of homophobic bullying on the site.

I've been on the receiving end of much of it. I've been pushed a lot into positions where I treat every post as hostile, had calls for my death up for polls, received sexually explicit PMs calling me PMs. Hell, I was banned for using the word "gay". Do you think things are getting better?

Banned for using the word "gay"??? Seriously? If so, that is just plain wrong and, as a minimum, that ban should be taken off from the escalation of penalties. I mean, seriously, that is actually reason for you to complain to the CC legal department if you did not already!

That said, I can remember when this forum was a much better place to just "be". We had a lot of interesting, sometimes intense debates. I believe a number of us have received warnings for pushing the envelope, but now I find actual vulgarities, (F**k being one), going by without even a notice. I cannot say that I am really seeing more tolerance, rather I am seeing more allowance for negativity and vulgarity.

Beyond that, any forum with a variety of people is going to find differing opinions. I don't think we want or need a place where simply expressing opposition to homosexuality is wrong (and not suggesting that is what you are saying). However, anyone making true real life threats of ANY kind for ANY reason should result in an instant and permanent ban. That is, someone saying "if I knew you in real life, I would punch you" might deserve a warning, perhaps a ban if it continues. Anyone pming you saying "I am going to find you and attack you" is something to be taken seriously, warranting a ban at a minimum, and, depending on the circumstances, perhaps even warranting law enforcement contact (if there is legitimate reason to believe the person can locate you and carry out the threat).

I am not sure if CC is drawing that line right now or not. In the past, they were perhaps cracking down a tad too much. Now, perhaps they are letting a bit too much slide. It might be simply that they don't have the volunteers they used to have as well.

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:50 am
by owenshooter
Symmetry wrote:


this is now the third or fourth thread on this very same topic. we now have these threads in off topics, the GD and suggestions. can someone please merge all of them? thanks!-Jésus noir

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:28 am
by PLAYER57832
owenshooter wrote:
Symmetry wrote:


this is now the third or fourth thread on this very same topic. we now have these threads in off topics, the GD and suggestions. can someone please merge all of them? thanks!-Jésus noir


If you are talking about threads specifically on homophobia, and that have notgone off-topic or gotten too rude to continue, then OK.

If you are just talking about all threads about homosexuality or reviving threads that were closed due to harsh vulgarities and the like, then absolutely not. If that is your intent, then I would actually say you are exhibiting minor homophobia, or just plain lack of consideration for differing ideas. (that is, yes, I know some people just don't want so many "political" discussions, but you are always free to ignore them and start threads on the topics you personally prefer).

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:10 am
by owenshooter
PLAYER57832 wrote:
owenshooter wrote:
Symmetry wrote:


this is now the third or fourth thread on this very same topic. we now have these threads in off topics, the GD and suggestions. can someone please merge all of them? thanks!-Jésus noir


If you are talking about threads specifically on homophobia, and that have notgone off-topic or gotten too rude to continue, then OK.

If you are just talking about all threads about homosexuality or reviving threads that were closed due to harsh vulgarities and the like, then absolutely not. If that is your intent, then I would actually say you are exhibiting minor homophobia, or just plain lack of consideration for differing ideas. (that is, yes, I know some people just don't want so many "political" discussions, but you are always free to ignore them and start threads on the topics you personally prefer).

no, he has posted the same thread in multiple portions of the forum. the same thread.-Jn

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:13 am
by PLAYER57832
If so, then they should be combined and symmetry should revive the old threads, not create new ones (though I do remember getting chastised for reviving dead threads at one point, also)

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:37 am
by owenshooter
PLAYER57832 wrote:If so, then they should be combined and symmetry should revive the old threads, not create new ones (though I do remember getting chastised for reviving dead threads at one point, also)

he doesn't play games. he comes and posts every so often to stir the shit. the moderators seem to just let the threads die vs. combining them...-Jésus noir

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:17 pm
by saxitoxin
Symmetry wrote:I've been on the receiving end of much of it. I've been pushed a lot into positions


I've never pushed Symm into any position we didn't both agree on first.

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:15 pm
by mrswdk
Symmetry wrote:I was banned for using the word "gay".


Complaining about moderation of your post content while simultaneously calling for greater moderation of other people's posts?

You can't have your cake and eat it too, Sym.

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Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 8:42 pm
by Symmetry
PLAYER57832 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Now nobody here who's been on CC for any length of time will be unaware that there is a lot of homophobic bullying on the site.

I've been on the receiving end of much of it. I've been pushed a lot into positions where I treat every post as hostile, had calls for my death up for polls, received sexually explicit PMs calling me PMs. Hell, I was banned for using the word "gay". Do you think things are getting better?

Banned for using the word "gay"??? Seriously? If so, that is just plain wrong and, as a minimum, that ban should be taken off from the escalation of penalties. I mean, seriously, that is actually reason for you to complain to the CC legal department if you did not already!

That said, I can remember when this forum was a much better place to just "be". We had a lot of interesting, sometimes intense debates. I believe a number of us have received warnings for pushing the envelope, but now I find actual vulgarities, (F**k being one), going by without even a notice. I cannot say that I am really seeing more tolerance, rather I am seeing more allowance for negativity and vulgarity.

Beyond that, any forum with a variety of people is going to find differing opinions. I don't think we want or need a place where simply expressing opposition to homosexuality is wrong (and not suggesting that is what you are saying). However, anyone making true real life threats of ANY kind for ANY reason should result in an instant and permanent ban. That is, someone saying "if I knew you in real life, I would punch you" might deserve a warning, perhaps a ban if it continues. Anyone pming you saying "I am going to find you and attack you" is something to be taken seriously, warranting a ban at a minimum, and, depending on the circumstances, perhaps even warranting law enforcement contact (if there is legitimate reason to believe the person can locate you and carry out the threat).

I am not sure if CC is drawing that line right now or not. In the past, they were perhaps cracking down a tad too much. Now, perhaps they are letting a bit too much slide. It might be simply that they don't have the volunteers they used to have as well.


I complained and was told by BGtheBrain that it was equivalent to using the N-word. I managed to get them to change the policy via the suggestions thread, but they were unwilling to revoke any bans.

They also refused to tell me where my use of the word got me the ban.

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 8:50 pm
by Symmetry
owenshooter wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:If so, then they should be combined and symmetry should revive the old threads, not create new ones (though I do remember getting chastised for reviving dead threads at one point, also)

he doesn't play games. he comes and posts every so often to stir the shit. the moderators seem to just let the threads die vs. combining them...-Jésus noir


Ah, the old excuse for dismissing someone arguing for a break from the status quo. I should be ignored if my arguments create discension. Ad hominem much?

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:28 pm
by thegreekdog
Symmetry wrote:Now nobody here who's been on CC for any length of time will be unaware that there is a lot of homophobic bullying on the site.

I've been on the receiving end of much of it. I've been pushed a lot into positions where I treat every post as hostile, had calls for my death up for polls, received sexually explicit PMs calling me PMs. Hell, I was banned for using the word "gay". Do you think things are getting better?


I can't speak to sexually explicit PMs. Are a lot of people sending you those? If it's just one or two people, perhaps you should focus attention on those people and not indicate that there is "a lot of homophobic bullying" on the site. Honestly, I didn't even know you are gay.

I was not supportive of your ban for using the word "gay" but I don't think you were banned because there is a lot of homophobic bullying. I think you were banned because the moderators don't know their asses from holes in the ground.

You had one death poll which was not started because you are gay.

So perhaps you should focus your seemingly limitless time dealing with people who are actually homophobic (based on my count, those sending you sexually explicit PMs (note, I only assume they are homophobic... perhaps they are not)).

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:54 pm
by Symmetry
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Now nobody here who's been on CC for any length of time will be unaware that there is a lot of homophobic bullying on the site.

I've been on the receiving end of much of it. I've been pushed a lot into positions where I treat every post as hostile, had calls for my death up for polls, received sexually explicit PMs calling me PMs. Hell, I was banned for using the word "gay". Do you think things are getting better?


I can't speak to sexually explicit PMs. Are a lot of people sending you those? If it's just one or two people, perhaps you should focus attention on those people and not indicate that there is "a lot of homophobic bullying" on the site. Honestly, I didn't even know you are gay.

I was not supportive of your ban for using the word "gay" but I don't think you were banned because there is a lot of homophobic bullying. I think you were banned because the moderators don't know their asses from holes in the ground.

You had one death poll which was not started because you are gay.

So perhaps you should focus your seemingly limitless time dealing with people who are actually homophobic (based on my count, those sending you sexually explicit PMs (note, I only assume they are homophobic... perhaps they are not)).


Perhaps there has been a misunderstanding here. I assumed that you found the kind of stuff that Saxi sends people to be funny. What was the rational reason for the death thread iyho? I thought it was irratiional hatred.

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:38 pm
by saxitoxin
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Now nobody here who's been on CC for any length of time will be unaware that there is a lot of homophobic bullying on the site.

I've been on the receiving end of much of it. I've been pushed a lot into positions where I treat every post as hostile, had calls for my death up for polls, received sexually explicit PMs calling me PMs. Hell, I was banned for using the word "gay". Do you think things are getting better?


I can't speak to sexually explicit PMs. Are a lot of people sending you those? If it's just one or two people, perhaps you should focus attention on those people and not indicate that there is "a lot of homophobic bullying" on the site. Honestly, I didn't even know you are gay.

I was not supportive of your ban for using the word "gay" but I don't think you were banned because there is a lot of homophobic bullying. I think you were banned because the moderators don't know their asses from holes in the ground.

You had one death poll which was not started because you are gay.

So perhaps you should focus your seemingly limitless time dealing with people who are actually homophobic (based on my count, those sending you sexually explicit PMs (note, I only assume they are homophobic... perhaps they are not)).


Perhaps there has been a misunderstanding here. I assumed that you found the kind of stuff that Saxi sends people to be funny. What was the rational reason for the death thread iyho? I thought it was irratiional hatred.


What!? I left a welcome back message on your wall.

But if you don't like it, I'm taking it down and will give it to someone who will appreciate it more.

And there was nothing explicit about it.

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:48 pm
by Symmetry
saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Now nobody here who's been on CC for any length of time will be unaware that there is a lot of homophobic bullying on the site.

I've been on the receiving end of much of it. I've been pushed a lot into positions where I treat every post as hostile, had calls for my death up for polls, received sexually explicit PMs calling me PMs. Hell, I was banned for using the word "gay". Do you think things are getting better?


I can't speak to sexually explicit PMs. Are a lot of people sending you those? If it's just one or two people, perhaps you should focus attention on those people and not indicate that there is "a lot of homophobic bullying" on the site. Honestly, I didn't even know you are gay.

I was not supportive of your ban for using the word "gay" but I don't think you were banned because there is a lot of homophobic bullying. I think you were banned because the moderators don't know their asses from holes in the ground.

You had one death poll which was not started because you are gay.

So perhaps you should focus your seemingly limitless time dealing with people who are actually homophobic (based on my count, those sending you sexually explicit PMs (note, I only assume they are homophobic... perhaps they are not)).


Perhaps there has been a misunderstanding here. I assumed that you found the kind of stuff that Saxi sends people to be funny. What was the rational reason for the death thread iyho? I thought it was irratiional hatred.


What!? I left a welcome back message on your wall.

But if you don't like it, I'm taking it down and will give it to someone who will appreciate it more.

And there was nothing explicit about it.


Aww, you're too kind.

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:56 pm
by saxitoxin
Symmetry wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Now nobody here who's been on CC for any length of time will be unaware that there is a lot of homophobic bullying on the site.

I've been on the receiving end of much of it. I've been pushed a lot into positions where I treat every post as hostile, had calls for my death up for polls, received sexually explicit PMs calling me PMs. Hell, I was banned for using the word "gay". Do you think things are getting better?


I can't speak to sexually explicit PMs. Are a lot of people sending you those? If it's just one or two people, perhaps you should focus attention on those people and not indicate that there is "a lot of homophobic bullying" on the site. Honestly, I didn't even know you are gay.

I was not supportive of your ban for using the word "gay" but I don't think you were banned because there is a lot of homophobic bullying. I think you were banned because the moderators don't know their asses from holes in the ground.

You had one death poll which was not started because you are gay.

So perhaps you should focus your seemingly limitless time dealing with people who are actually homophobic (based on my count, those sending you sexually explicit PMs (note, I only assume they are homophobic... perhaps they are not)).


Perhaps there has been a misunderstanding here. I assumed that you found the kind of stuff that Saxi sends people to be funny. What was the rational reason for the death thread iyho? I thought it was irratiional hatred.


What!? I left a welcome back message on your wall.

But if you don't like it, I'm taking it down and will give it to someone who will appreciate it more.

And there was nothing explicit about it.


Aww, you're too kind.


I've now put a less offensive post on your wall.

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:02 am
by Symmetry
saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Now nobody here who's been on CC for any length of time will be unaware that there is a lot of homophobic bullying on the site.

I've been on the receiving end of much of it. I've been pushed a lot into positions where I treat every post as hostile, had calls for my death up for polls, received sexually explicit PMs calling me PMs. Hell, I was banned for using the word "gay". Do you think things are getting better?


I can't speak to sexually explicit PMs. Are a lot of people sending you those? If it's just one or two people, perhaps you should focus attention on those people and not indicate that there is "a lot of homophobic bullying" on the site. Honestly, I didn't even know you are gay.

I was not supportive of your ban for using the word "gay" but I don't think you were banned because there is a lot of homophobic bullying. I think you were banned because the moderators don't know their asses from holes in the ground.

You had one death poll which was not started because you are gay.

So perhaps you should focus your seemingly limitless time dealing with people who are actually homophobic (based on my count, those sending you sexually explicit PMs (note, I only assume they are homophobic... perhaps they are not)).


Perhaps there has been a misunderstanding here. I assumed that you found the kind of stuff that Saxi sends people to be funny. What was the rational reason for the death thread iyho? I thought it was irratiional hatred.


What!? I left a welcome back message on your wall.

But if you don't like it, I'm taking it down and will give it to someone who will appreciate it more.

And there was nothing explicit about it.


Aww, you're too kind.


I've now put a less offensive post on your wall.


What was your thinking behind sending the first one?

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:13 am
by Phatscotty
Symmetry wrote:Now nobody here who's been on CC for any length of time will be unaware that there is a lot of homophobic bullying on the site.

I've been on the receiving end of much of it. I've been pushed a lot into positions where I treat every post as hostile, had calls for my death up for polls, received sexually explicit PMs calling me PMs. Hell, I was banned for using the word "gay". Do you think things are getting better?


obviously they are better. You just gave examples of horrendous torture and how you people used to be treated. Whereas now you get banned just for using the G-word. I'm betting you could not see the ginormous advances in progress because you were banned.

....Unless... it could be possible that you are coming around in agreement that in some ways the LGBT movement has gone way too far whilst more and more individuals are starting to act like the very same hateful bigoted intolerant tyrants they have long complained the movement was oppressed by. Is that the case?

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:42 am
by saxitoxin
Symmetry wrote:What was your thinking behind sending the first one?


You mean this one? EXCUSE ME. I thought I was encouraging nutritious eating.

Welcome back! I made you a fruit salad.

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Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:33 am
by mrswdk
Bananas are rich in potassium, great if you're lacking energy at work in the afternoon.

Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:17 am
by Bernie Sanders
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Re: Homophobia on CC

PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:18 pm
by thegreekdog
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Now nobody here who's been on CC for any length of time will be unaware that there is a lot of homophobic bullying on the site.

I've been on the receiving end of much of it. I've been pushed a lot into positions where I treat every post as hostile, had calls for my death up for polls, received sexually explicit PMs calling me PMs. Hell, I was banned for using the word "gay". Do you think things are getting better?


I can't speak to sexually explicit PMs. Are a lot of people sending you those? If it's just one or two people, perhaps you should focus attention on those people and not indicate that there is "a lot of homophobic bullying" on the site. Honestly, I didn't even know you are gay.

I was not supportive of your ban for using the word "gay" but I don't think you were banned because there is a lot of homophobic bullying. I think you were banned because the moderators don't know their asses from holes in the ground.

You had one death poll which was not started because you are gay.

So perhaps you should focus your seemingly limitless time dealing with people who are actually homophobic (based on my count, those sending you sexually explicit PMs (note, I only assume they are homophobic... perhaps they are not)).


Perhaps there has been a misunderstanding here. I assumed that you found the kind of stuff that Saxi sends people to be funny. What was the rational reason for the death thread iyho? I thought it was irratiional hatred.


Saxi doesn't send me anything and I don't see what he sends other people, so I have no idea if what he sends people is funny. I stated that his game chat and forum posts were funny (the funniest I've ever read anywhere).

I don't know if it was hatred. I do know that it was not irrational. Regardless, it did not reference your sexual preference, so you can hardly call it homophobic.

Your response to my post continues to raise the concern that you do not adequately comprehend the English language.