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Explain please.

Time
moves in a wave, perhaps cycles.

Newsweek

notyou2 wrote:Newsweek

Colbert

It don't mean nothing, not a thing

Perhaps this is closer to an answer?

It's your colon on drugs.

BAH SPACE TIME INTERNET ATE MY POST.

DaGip wrote:Explain please.

The W Axis is the fourth dimension in four-dimensional Euclidean space as opposed to the non Euclidean four-dimensional Minkowski space which is the basis for the theories of Relativity.

tzor wrote:BAH SPACE TIME INTERNET ATE MY POST.

DaGip wrote:Explain please.

The W Axis is the fourth dimension in four-dimensional Euclidean space as opposed to the non Euclidean four-dimensional Minkowski space which is the basis for the theories of Relativity.

W axis is fourth dimension of time, right? But does space encompass all dimensions? Is space the Zero dimension? Zero in mathematical terms doesn't necessarily mean "nothing", it is an unknown quantity that could be infinitely huge or infinitely minute. Time and Space are considered relative to one another, right? So, that means electromagnetic radiation on a one dimensional line in Space/Time is spread out infinitely into a 2D plane. This 2D plane of existence is where everything in a Universe is stored. A place where all Universes infinitely converge upon one another, being folded over by Space/Time to form 3 dimensional perspectives. Time and Space, working in tandem, meld radiation into matter being born (not from "nothing") from a Zero Dimension.

We perceive our movement on earth as 2D; but adding the lifting of all the matter that makes up your foot to take a step, you are indeed traveling through the Z Axis to relocate all one dimensional lines of radiation on a two dimensional plane of existence. But, how does the matter located within the synergy of the X,Y,Z axes move from a Z coordinate to an X/Y coordinate? Easy. The human brain thinks of the position that it wills to place said matter to take a step. In essence, our thoughts must exist on the W Axis. What constitutes a thought?

If one were to travel in a glass elevator, one could see farther and farther out to the horizon of the perceived 2D X/Y axes. That means the further one travels on the Z axis (positive or negative) one can observe a broader range of the X and Y. If I did travel in this hypothetical elevator, I could see events happening that you (being an observer from the X/Y) are unable to see or comprehend unless you actually knew about my secret glass elevator. If I saw a car crash a mile away and I came down from the elevator and told you there was a car crash a mile away...you would think I was nuts, until you investigated it and found out there really was a car crash a mile away, and then you would ask yourself,"How did that guy know about the car crash?"

If we take the same concept of the glass elevator and apply it to the W Axis, then we can see that the further we travel, the broader our perspective will be of the 3D space around us. Therefor, if there was going to be a car crash, I (being the observer from the W) could actually warn you beforehand of the impending crash and it could possibly be avoided all together. So, the W Axis could possibly be the spot where we can find premonitions and ESP.

Just a thought. Don't know if any of that is true or not. It's just an imagination experiment.

DaGip wrote:Perhaps this is closer to an answer?

Can we clone a women and instead of using a finger.....

DaGip wrote:

tzor wrote:BAH SPACE TIME INTERNET ATE MY POST.

DaGip wrote:Explain please.

The W Axis is the fourth dimension in four-dimensional Euclidean space as opposed to the non Euclidean four-dimensional Minkowski space which is the basis for the theories of Relativity.

W axis is fourth dimension of time, right? But does space encompass all dimensions? Is space the Zero dimension? Zero in mathematical terms doesn't necessarily mean "nothing", it is an unknown quantity that could be infinitely huge or infinitely minute. Time and Space are considered relative to one another, right? So, that means electromagnetic radiation on a one dimensional line in Space/Time is spread out infinitely into a 2D plane. This 2D plane of existence is where everything in a Universe is stored. A place where all Universes infinitely converge upon one another, being folded over by Space/Time to form 3 dimensional perspectives. Time and Space, working in tandem, meld radiation into matter being born (not from "nothing") from a Zero Dimension.

We perceive our movement on earth as 2D; but adding the lifting of all the matter that makes up your foot to take a step, you are indeed traveling through the Z Axis to relocate all one dimensional lines of radiation on a two dimensional plane of existence. But, how does the matter located within the synergy of the X,Y,Z axes move from a Z coordinate to an X/Y coordinate? Easy. The human brain thinks of the position that it wills to place said matter to take a step. In essence, our thoughts must exist on the W Axis. What constitutes a thought?

If one were to travel in a glass elevator, one could see farther and farther out to the horizon of the perceived 2D X/Y axes. That means the further one travels on the Z axis (positive or negative) one can observe a broader range of the X and Y. If I did travel in this hypothetical elevator, I could see events happening that you (being an observer from the X/Y) are unable to see or comprehend unless you actually knew about my secret glass elevator. If I saw a car crash a mile away and I came down from the elevator and told you there was a car crash a mile away...you would think I was nuts, until you investigated it and found out there really was a car crash a mile away, and then you would ask yourself,"How did that guy know about the car crash?"

If we take the same concept of the glass elevator and apply it to the W Axis, then we can see that the further we travel, the broader our perspective will be of the 3D space around us. Therefor, if there was going to be a car crash, I (being the observer from the W) could actually warn you beforehand of the impending crash and it could possibly be avoided all together. So, the W Axis could possibly be the spot where we can find premonitions and ESP.

Just a thought. Don't know if any of that is true or not. It's just an imagination experiment.

Dude.

DaGip wrote:W axis is fourth dimension of time, right?

NO. Space time is non Euclidean. The W Axis would be an additional dimension of space. Space time has its own on Euclidean formulas because the time dimension is "imaginary." The classical W axis is a fourth Euclidean dimension.

This begs the question of "what is space?" We are actually dealing with the concept of math here. This is really complex stuff; several orders of magnitude beyond the standard model of particles. (Gravity is also not covered whatsoever under the standard model and we don't really have a solid model yet to support that force. You can't even begin to get a solid answer to what is space until you get a reasonable answer to what is gravity.)

Here is another interesting question to consider. What is a hologram? A hologram is a two dimensional image that when projected into the third dimension yields a three dimensional image. Some theories postulate space is a four dimensional hologram, that while there may not be the actual fourth (space) dimension the universe is so structured that if it was projected onto that fourth spacial dimension that a four dimensional object would appear. Many string theories call for a number of micro dimensions, not as vast as the three major dimensions but still existing at some level.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-dimensional_space

Damn

Solved!

DaGip wrote:

tzor wrote:BAH SPACE TIME INTERNET ATE MY POST.

DaGip wrote:Explain please.

The W Axis is the fourth dimension in four-dimensional Euclidean space as opposed to the non Euclidean four-dimensional Minkowski space which is the basis for the theories of Relativity.

W axis is fourth dimension of time, right? But does space encompass all dimensions? Is space the Zero dimension? Zero in mathematical terms doesn't necessarily mean "nothing", it is an unknown quantity that could be infinitely huge or infinitely minute. Time and Space are considered relative to one another, right? So, that means electromagnetic radiation on a one dimensional line in Space/Time is spread out infinitely into a 2D plane. This 2D plane of existence is where everything in a Universe is stored. A place where all Universes infinitely converge upon one another, being folded over by Space/Time to form 3 dimensional perspectives. Time and Space, working in tandem, meld radiation into matter being born (not from "nothing") from a Zero Dimension.

We perceive our movement on earth as 2D; but adding the lifting of all the matter that makes up your foot to take a step, you are indeed traveling through the Z Axis to relocate all one dimensional lines of radiation on a two dimensional plane of existence. But, how does the matter located within the synergy of the X,Y,Z axes move from a Z coordinate to an X/Y coordinate? Easy. The human brain thinks of the position that it wills to place said matter to take a step. In essence, our thoughts must exist on the W Axis. What constitutes a thought?

If one were to travel in a glass elevator, one could see farther and farther out to the horizon of the perceived 2D X/Y axes. That means the further one travels on the Z axis (positive or negative) one can observe a broader range of the X and Y. If I did travel in this hypothetical elevator, I could see events happening that you (being an observer from the X/Y) are unable to see or comprehend unless you actually knew about my secret glass elevator. If I saw a car crash a mile away and I came down from the elevator and told you there was a car crash a mile away...you would think I was nuts, until you investigated it and found out there really was a car crash a mile away, and then you would ask yourself,"How did that guy know about the car crash?"

If we take the same concept of the glass elevator and apply it to the W Axis, then we can see that the further we travel, the broader our perspective will be of the 3D space around us. Therefor, if there was going to be a car crash, I (being the observer from the W) could actually warn you beforehand of the impending crash and it could possibly be avoided all together. So, the W Axis could possibly be the spot where we can find premonitions and ESP.

Just a thought. Don't know if any of that is true or not. It's just an imagination experiment.

As tzor stated, time is imaginary--it's a construct of human reasoning.

And even if, from your proposed vantage point on your misunderstood w axis, you could see your car crash and change the outcome, you break causality, and invalidate the entire model, which means you'd never be in your w axis placement anyway.

Toking and armchair physics don't mix.

-TG

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:

DaGip wrote:

tzor wrote:BAH SPACE TIME INTERNET ATE MY POST.

DaGip wrote:Explain please.

The W Axis is the fourth dimension in four-dimensional Euclidean space as opposed to the non Euclidean four-dimensional Minkowski space which is the basis for the theories of Relativity.

W axis is fourth dimension of time, right? But does space encompass all dimensions? Is space the Zero dimension? Zero in mathematical terms doesn't necessarily mean "nothing", it is an unknown quantity that could be infinitely huge or infinitely minute. Time and Space are considered relative to one another, right? So, that means electromagnetic radiation on a one dimensional line in Space/Time is spread out infinitely into a 2D plane. This 2D plane of existence is where everything in a Universe is stored. A place where all Universes infinitely converge upon one another, being folded over by Space/Time to form 3 dimensional perspectives. Time and Space, working in tandem, meld radiation into matter being born (not from "nothing") from a Zero Dimension.

We perceive our movement on earth as 2D; but adding the lifting of all the matter that makes up your foot to take a step, you are indeed traveling through the Z Axis to relocate all one dimensional lines of radiation on a two dimensional plane of existence. But, how does the matter located within the synergy of the X,Y,Z axes move from a Z coordinate to an X/Y coordinate? Easy. The human brain thinks of the position that it wills to place said matter to take a step. In essence, our thoughts must exist on the W Axis. What constitutes a thought?

If one were to travel in a glass elevator, one could see farther and farther out to the horizon of the perceived 2D X/Y axes. That means the further one travels on the Z axis (positive or negative) one can observe a broader range of the X and Y. If I did travel in this hypothetical elevator, I could see events happening that you (being an observer from the X/Y) are unable to see or comprehend unless you actually knew about my secret glass elevator. If I saw a car crash a mile away and I came down from the elevator and told you there was a car crash a mile away...you would think I was nuts, until you investigated it and found out there really was a car crash a mile away, and then you would ask yourself,"How did that guy know about the car crash?"

If we take the same concept of the glass elevator and apply it to the W Axis, then we can see that the further we travel, the broader our perspective will be of the 3D space around us. Therefor, if there was going to be a car crash, I (being the observer from the W) could actually warn you beforehand of the impending crash and it could possibly be avoided all together. So, the W Axis could possibly be the spot where we can find premonitions and ESP.

Just a thought. Don't know if any of that is true or not. It's just an imagination experiment.

As tzor stated, time is imaginary--it's a construct of human reasoning.

And even if, from your proposed vantage point on your misunderstood w axis, you could see your car crash and change the outcome, you break causality, and invalidate the entire model, which means you'd never be in your w axis placement anyway.

Toking and armchair physics don't mix.

-TG

If "time" is imaginary (an illusion), then movement through space is then also imaginary and does not really exist. Without time, there cannot be movement; and without movement, then there is no need for space.

Space and time are relative

Time is space (rather the 'curvature' of space), that's the whole point. One is not independent of the other, and you can't alter time without altering reality itself. Time is a measurement like meters are a measure of distance--it tells you the displacement of two objects but a meter does not really exist as an object itself. So time is not real, it's a measure between the world lines of an object.

It's not an "illusion" or anything mystical, it's a method of how we measure perception of reality. It's not real like matter or forces.

-TG

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Time is space (rather the 'curvature' of space), that's the whole point. One is not independent of the other, and you can't alter time without altering reality itself. Time is a measurement like meters are a measure of distance--it tells you the displacement of two objects but a meter does not really exist as an object itself. So time is not real, it's a measure between the world lines of an object.

It's not an "illusion" or anything mystical, it's a method of how we measure perception of reality. It's not real like matter or forces.

-TG

Time can be quite different. Time will slow as you travel faster and the faster you go, time will slow down. Leave Earth at the speed of light and return 20 years later, you'll find everyone who was similar in age when you left Earth has either aged more than you or have died of old age.

Is time a perception of reality?

That reinforces my point. As your velocity approaches c your world line changes compared to your compatriots. It's not that time slows, your path along space changes. It's like moving through oil, then suddenly moving through water, and moving back to water. Your relative position changes.

-TG

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:As tzor stated, time is imaginary--it's a construct of human reasoning.

Imaginary numbers are all numbers multiplied by the square root of negative 1.
Imaginary numbers can be both rational and real.
They can be combined with regular numbers ... but that results in a "complex" number.

First of all, "Special" relativity is ... how shall I say it ... "Special?"

Almost all of the discussions of special relativity violate the fundamental assumptions on which special relativity is based, principally the complete disregard for acceleration in any form. (This is why the twins paradox is not a paradox, any change in direction is an acceleration and turning around is a definite acceleration in angular momentum.) You need to get into general relativity in order to understand the effects of things that change direction (and not just have the simple case of two ships passing in the night of space) and then you either need to add an additional dimension to curve space time or you need to come up with the concept of fluid space time.

tzor wrote:

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:As tzor stated, time is imaginary--it's a construct of human reasoning.

Imaginary numbers are all numbers multiplied by the square root of negative 1.
Imaginary numbers can be both rational and real.
They can be combined with regular numbers ... but that results in a "complex" number.

Numbers aren't real, either. Like time, they are a tool we invent to understand reality.

-TG

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:

tzor wrote:

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:As tzor stated, time is imaginary--it's a construct of human reasoning.

Imaginary numbers are all numbers multiplied by the square root of negative 1.
Imaginary numbers can be both rational and real.
They can be combined with regular numbers ... but that results in a "complex" number.

Numbers aren't real, either. Like time, they are a tool we invent to understand reality.

-TG

and reality is not real.

Yes it is.

-TG