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Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:51 pm
by Bernie Sanders
http://www.aol.com/article/2016/01/13/debate-over-cruzs-eligibility-to-be-president-ignites-again/21296563/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D1078019776_htmlws-sb-bb
Constitutional Scholar says Ted Cruz can't be President of USA, as he is not a natural born citizen.

Looks like Trump is saying the same thing.

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:09 pm
by jgordon1111
Wrong, a child of an American citizen, born outside the U.S has dual citizenship, and upon their majority,has the right to choose which country they wish to claim, it only breaks down to passport, you don't get both,that choice says it all, Canadian passport Canadian,U.S. passport...... This fact I know one of my sons was born in the same place McCain was and choose at 18

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:11 pm
by saxitoxin
jgordon1111 wrote:This fact I know one of my sons was born in you


In this scenario, JGordon is a wasp and Bernie Sanders is a caterpillar.

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:13 pm
by Bernie Sanders
jgordon1111 wrote:Wrong, a child of an American citizen, born outside the U.S has dual citizenship, and upon their majority,has the right to choose which country they wish to claim, it only breaks down to passport, you don't get both,that choice says it all, Canadian passport Canadian,U.S. passport...... This fact I know one of my sons was born in you the same place McCain was and choose at 18


Cruz was a Canadian citizen, until recently, decided to drop the Canadian citizenship. His Father was a Cuban citizen and later, after Ted was born became a US citizen.

Our Founding Fathers said "natural born", as being born in US territories, since our Founding Fathers were not born US citizens.

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Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:15 pm
by jgordon1111
And by the by Trump already tried this both times oboma ran results oboma 8yrs, the definition of insanity is?

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:19 pm
by jgordon1111
Bernie Sanders wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:Wrong, a child of an American citizen, born outside the U.S has dual citizenship, and upon their majority,has the right to choose which country they wish to claim, it only breaks down to passport, you don't get both,that choice says it all, Canadian passport Canadian,U.S. passport...... This fact I know one of my sons was born in you the same place McCain was and choose at 18


Cruz was a Canadian citizen, until recently, decided to drop the Canadian citizenship. His Father was a Cuban citizen and later, after Ted was born became a US citizen.

Our Founding Fathers said "natural born", as being born in US territories, since our Founding Fathers were not born US citizens.

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Bernie Bernie you don't listen do You, as long as he never held a Canadian passport, he gets to choose, just exactly as our founding father's chose.

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:21 pm
by Bernie Sanders
Our Founding Fathers chose what?

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:27 pm
by jgordon1111
Bernie Sanders wrote:Our Founding Fathers chose what?

Not to be British, french,spanish,Dutch, German, Irish etc.

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:29 pm
by jgordon1111
saxitoxin wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:This fact I know one of my sons was born in you


In this scenario, JGordon is a wasp and Bernie Sanders is a caterpillar.


Damn predictive text, I didn't notice, Ty saxi

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:32 pm
by riskllama
Bernie Sanders wrote:Our Founding Fathers chose what?

choosy founding fathers choose jif.

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:53 pm
by jonesthecurl
jgordon1111 wrote:And by the by Trump already tried this both times oboma ran results oboma 8yrs, the definition of insanity is?

Supporting Trump?

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:05 pm
by jgordon1111
jonesthecurl wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:And by the by Trump already tried this both times oboma ran results oboma 8yrs, the definition of insanity is?

Supporting Trump?


Oddly enough just as a reoccurring theme its a damn good way to make sure Cruz is the next president,keep talking Don, You have already proven twice that when you speak people get elected.

Now that's funny I don't care who you are

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:30 pm
by Symmetry
jgordon1111 wrote:And by the by Trump already tried this both times oboma ran results oboma 8yrs, the definition of insanity is?


Making the same spelling mistake twice and expecting different results?

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:38 am
by tzor
Bernie Sanders wrote:Cruz was a Canadian citizen, until recently, decided to drop the Canadian citizenship. His Father was a Cuban citizen and later, after Ted was born became a US citizen.

Our Founding Fathers said "natural born", as being born in US territories, since our Founding Fathers were not born US citizens.


First of all Bernie, there is NOTHING in the constitution about territories.
Second of all, only a few Founding Fathers (post revolution / pre constitution) were not natural citizens of the "State" which they resided.
Thirdly, the constitution is based on the French work of international law by Vattel (many of the Founding Fathers had the French original edition).

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.


Lastly, Vattel's book is not absolute law. There are only two types of citizens, natural born and naturalized. The law defining this has been changed over time. You don't need to change the constitution to change the definition of natural born since the definition is not in the constitution. Obama doesn't qualify under Vatel either since the law was based on the parentage of the FATHER for natural citizenship. Was Cruz naturalized? If not he is either a natural born or he is an illegal immigrant.

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:46 am
by jgordon1111
Damn, Cruz messed up last night,for a constitutional lawyer he should have known better, he gave trump and everyone else a weapon to use against him at anytime.

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:39 pm
by saxitoxin
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Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:16 pm
by Bernie Sanders
saxitoxin wrote:Image



I saw the debate last night and knew that Cruz was going to eat those words about New York values. Ted Cruz is a hypocrite and a flip-flopper, along with that wimpy Rubio.

Good riddance Ted!

http://images.f169bbs.com/content/2016-01/new-york-to-ted-drop-dead-ted-31270.jpg

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:36 pm
by patches70
This stuff about Cruz's citizenship is just stupid. What is really going to sink him is his campaign not disclosing that Cruz got a loan of $1 million from none other than our scumbag friends of Tranzies Goldman Sachs. Not only that but his wife works for Goldman Sachs.

For those who might not be aware, Goldman Sachs has a long history of maleficence and deceptive practices including but not limited to murdering their own muppets, bankrupting governments and market manipulations.

Cruz's connection to Goldman Sachs should be enough for any discerning voter to pass on casting a vote for this puppet.

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:52 pm
by Symmetry
It's a sign that Trump is out of ideas. His birtherism and racism appeals to his base. It's a challenge to Cruz too though. "Confront me, and lose the people who agree with me" or "Agree with me, and lose the moderates"

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:56 pm
by Metsfanmax
Bernie, I don't think Cruz is depending on the New York vote this time around.

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:05 pm
by jgordon1111
Hmm, the biggest blunder he made last night was he said trump couldn't run either on the basis trumps mother was born in Scotland, surprised that for a constitutional lawyer he would make that mistake, you can bet everyone smells blood now and will use it against him, calling his expertise into question on everything he says or does, and every argument he has had in front of any court.

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:12 pm
by Bernie Sanders
jgordon1111 wrote:Hmm, the biggest blunder he made last night was he said trump couldn't run either on the basis trumps mother was born in Scotland, surprised that for a constitutional lawyer he would make that mistake, you can bet everyone smells blood now and will use it against him, calling his expertise into question on everything he says or does, and every argument he has had in front of any court.


Ted Cruz is done!

Who can stop Trump now? The RNC is already preparing for a contested election, as no one candidate will have enough delegates to get the Republican nomination. Trump is single-handedly destroying the GOP establishment, Tea Party and conservative movement in the Republican Party.

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:16 pm
by Symmetry
jgordon1111 wrote:Hmm, the biggest blunder he made last night was he said trump couldn't run either on the basis trumps mother was born in Scotland, surprised that for a constitutional lawyer he would make that mistake, you can bet everyone smells blood now and will use it against him, calling his expertise into question on everything he says or does, and every argument he has had in front of any court.


That Trump has been one of the biggest proponents of this kind of purity test, and that it has become a measure of the Republican Party is sad.

Re: Cruz can't run for the Presidency

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:26 pm
by notyou2
I told you guys a long time ago Cruz can't be president.