Seriously, Big Oil?!?!?

[riskllama]

Ft. McMurray, the bitumen capital of the world, is on fire. 16 000 structures lost already, 80 000 people evacuated. the provincial govt. of Alberta has put out the call for aid and, so far, big oil has done NOTHING. what a joke.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Alberta has put out the call for aid

And Rohan will answer!

-TG

[riskllama]

ok, that was pretty good, TG.

[Army of GOD]

putting oil on fire won't help matters

[riskllama]

putting oil on fire won't help matters

epic fail, you sawed off, pos.

[Dukasaur]

Ft. McMurray, the bitumen capital of the world, is on fire. 16 000 structures lost already, 80 000 people evacuated. the provincial govt. of Alberta has put out the call for aid and, so far, big oil has done NOTHING. what a joke.

It's because they're closing Rexall Place.

[riskllama]

1600 structures, whups...

[notyou2]

My friends just bought a house there. I think they lost it, the fire was very close when they evacuated.

[apey]

not good at least so far no one has lost their life

[DoomYoshi]

Estimated damages are 9 billion right now. 2dimes is flying up to begin airlifting people out.

[jgordon1111]

Ft. McMurray, the bitumen capital of the world, is on fire. 16 000 structures lost already, 80 000 people evacuated. the provincial govt. of Alberta has put out the call for aid and, so far, big oil has done NOTHING. what a joke.

Why would they help

In the long view they will gain so much more by just waiting, price of oil goes up, real estate drops, net gains both ways for them,

So what it cost some everything they had, What's that compared to their profit?

[riskllama]

PR, if nothing else. kinda like WalMart and their advertising laden semi trailers full of bottled water because they "cared" about the Katrina victims...
j, do u realize that town solely exists because of the oilsands?

[jgordon1111]

PR, if nothing else. kinda like WalMart and their advertising laden semi trailers full of bottled water because they "cared" about the Katrina victims...
j, do u realize that town solely exists because of the oilsands?

Yes I do, you can bet no one in the oil business lost everything, and no Katrina was different, Wal-Mart was under fire for hiring undocumented labor, so they swayed public opinion using the media, the irony a damn flood and they sent water, yep the people needed it but did you see trailers of food, medicine,?

[jgordon1111]

And back to Wal-Mart and the water you realize they were charging for the water until the media found out right?

[riskllama]

no, i didn't. well, maybe i did, but had forgotten about it. yet another reason why i refuse to shop there...

[Dukasaur]

In the news:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-to-match-donations-to-red-cross-for-fort-mcmurray-relief/article29884503/*

Mining magnate Peter Munk is donating $1-million to the Canadian Red Cross to help the thousands of people who have been displaced by the wildfires in the Fort McMurray area – a crisis that the philanthropist said reminds him of his own past as a refugee and marks an opportunity for Canadians to unite.

also
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/the-fort-mcmurray-fire-heres-how-you-can-help-and-receivehelp/article29850877/

Money: Click here to donate to the Red Cross. You can also donate $5 by texting “REDCROSS” to 30333. The Alberta and federal governments have said they’ll match private donations to the Red Cross.
Supplies: Here’s a crowdsourced Facebook page to connect Fort McMurray residents needing items with volunteers providing them.
Shelter: Airbnb has waived its service fees for those affected by the disaster. Here’s where you can check in to offer or seek accommodation.
Volunteers: Those interested in volunteering through the regional municipality can apply here.

[riskllama]

PR, if nothing else. kinda like WalMart and their advertising laden semi trailers full of bottled water because they "cared" about the Katrina victims...
j, do u realize that town solely exists because of the oilsands?

Yes I do, you can bet no one in the oil business lost everything

j, 95% of the people who live(d) up there who lost their homes/businesses whatever are DIRECTLY employed by the oil and gas industry. i expect they may get involved when their billions of dollars worth of infrastructure become threatened. or, maybe not - maybe they are gleefully rubbing their hands in anticipation at the thought of a "free upgrade" ala insurance fire. who knows...

[jgordon1111]

In the news:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-to-match-donations-to-red-cross-for-fort-mcmurray-relief/article29884503/*

Mining magnate Peter Munk is donating $1-million to the Canadian Red Cross to help the thousands of people who have been displaced by the wildfires in the Fort McMurray area – a crisis that the philanthropist said reminds him of his own past as a refugee and marks an opportunity for Canadians to unite.

also
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/the-fort-mcmurray-fire-heres-how-you-can-help-and-receivehelp/article29850877/

Money: Click here to donate to the Red Cross. You can also donate $5 by texting “REDCROSS” to 30333. The Alberta and federal governments have said they’ll match private donations to the Red Cross.
Supplies: Here’s a crowdsourced Facebook page to connect Fort McMurray residents needing items with volunteers providing them.
Shelter: Airbnb has waived its service fees for those affected by the disaster. Here’s where you can check in to offer or seek accommodation.
Volunteers: Those interested in volunteering through the regional municipality can apply here.

Your heart's in the right place Duk, but your head isn't.
Here is why for every dollar the R C gets .90 goes to pay for overhead, I.e. advertising paying staff, board of directors(the top six make 6 figure salaries plus perks per year) so the more money donated the more they make, and they don't show up until someone kicks in a donation that makes it worth their time,
And that this is not a crime is the horrific part

[Dukasaur]

In the news:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-to-match-donations-to-red-cross-for-fort-mcmurray-relief/article29884503/*

Mining magnate Peter Munk is donating $1-million to the Canadian Red Cross to help the thousands of people who have been displaced by the wildfires in the Fort McMurray area – a crisis that the philanthropist said reminds him of his own past as a refugee and marks an opportunity for Canadians to unite.

also
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/the-fort-mcmurray-fire-heres-how-you-can-help-and-receivehelp/article29850877/

Money: Click here to donate to the Red Cross. You can also donate $5 by texting “REDCROSS” to 30333. The Alberta and federal governments have said they’ll match private donations to the Red Cross.
Supplies: Here’s a crowdsourced Facebook page to connect Fort McMurray residents needing items with volunteers providing them.
Shelter: Airbnb has waived its service fees for those affected by the disaster. Here’s where you can check in to offer or seek accommodation.
Volunteers: Those interested in volunteering through the regional municipality can apply here.

Your heart's in the right place Duk, but your head isn't.
Here is why for every dollar the R C gets .90 goes to pay for overhead, I.e. advertising paying staff, board of directors(the top six make 6 figure salaries plus perks per year) so the more money donated the more they make, and they don't show up until someone kicks in a donation that makes it worth their time,
And that this is not a crime is the horrific part

Thanks to the Internet, it only takes a few clicks to check the financial profiles of charities.

https://www.charityintelligence.ca/charity-details/71-canadian-red-cross

Financial Review:
In F2015, CRC's administrative costs were 18% of revenues and its fundraising costs were 19% of donations. F2014 was an extraordinary year for donations with Canadians supporting the CRC for relief in the Alberta floods, Lac Megantic and Typhoon Haiyan in the Philippines. CRC has $195m in funding reserves (excluding donor endowed funds of $1.3m), largely to fund rebuilding efforts in disaster areas. These funding reserves cover annual program costs 82%.

(emphasis added)


Moneysense gave the Canadian Red Cross an A+ in every category.
http://www.moneysense.ca/save/financial-planning/2015-charity-100-grades/

Charity Watch gives it an A-. A quick perusal of other sites gives similar results. On everyone's list, the CRC scores high in financial accountability, efficiency, and transparency. I did a quick check of more than a dozen sites, and none gave less than 3 out of 4 stars (for sites that use star systems), A- (for sites that give letter grades), or 80% (for sites that give numerical scores.)

In any case, if you are uncomfortable with the Red Cross for whatever reason, you can follow any of the other links I provided and give through other means.

[Bernie Sanders]

Thank GOD! The fire is clearing about 1 million acres of obnoxious trees. We now can strip mine the land for the good of the people of CANADA!

[jgordon1111]

In the news:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-to-match-donations-to-red-cross-for-fort-mcmurray-relief/article29884503/*

Mining magnate Peter Munk is donating $1-million to the Canadian Red Cross to help the thousands of people who have been displaced by the wildfires in the Fort McMurray area – a crisis that the philanthropist said reminds him of his own past as a refugee and marks an opportunity for Canadians to unite.

also
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/the-fort-mcmurray-fire-heres-how-you-can-help-and-receivehelp/article29850877/

Money: Click here to donate to the Red Cross. You can also donate $5 by texting “REDCROSS” to 30333. The Alberta and federal governments have said they’ll match private donations to the Red Cross.
Supplies: Here’s a crowdsourced Facebook page to connect Fort McMurray residents needing items with volunteers providing them.
Shelter: Airbnb has waived its service fees for those affected by the disaster. Here’s where you can check in to offer or seek accommodation.
Volunteers: Those interested in volunteering through the regional municipality can apply here.

Your heart's in the right place Duk, but your head isn't.
Here is why for every dollar the R C gets .90 goes to pay for overhead, I.e. advertising paying staff, board of directors(the top six make 6 figure salaries plus perks per year) so the more money donated the more they make, and they don't show up until someone kicks in a donation that makes it worth their time,
And that this is not a crime is the horrific part

Thanks to the Internet, it only takes a few clicks to check the financial profiles of charities.

https://www.charityintelligence.ca/charity-details/71-canadian-red-cross

Financial Review:
In F2015, CRC's administrative costs were 18% of revenues and its fundraising costs were 19% of donations. F2014 was an extraordinary year for donations with Canadians supporting the CRC for relief in the Alberta floods, Lac Megantic and Typhoon Haiyan in the Philippines. CRC has $195m in funding reserves (excluding donor endowed funds of $1.3m), largely to fund rebuilding efforts in disaster areas. These funding reserves cover annual program costs 82%.

(emphasis added)


Moneysense gave the Canadian Red Cross an A+ in every category.
http://www.moneysense.ca/save/financial-planning/2015-charity-100-grades/

Charity Watch gives it an A-. A quick perusal of other sites gives similar results. On everyone's list, the CRC scores high in financial accountability, efficiency, and transparency. I did a quick check of more than a dozen sites, and none gave less than 3 out of 4 stars (for sites that use star systems), A- (for sites that give letter grades), or 80% (for sites that give numerical scores.)

In any case, if you are uncomfortable with the Red Cross for whatever reason, you can follow any of the other links I provided and give through other means.

For the sake of the Canadian people affected I hope the links you posted are correct and ty Duk, I am cynical, you apparently are not

[Symmetry]

In the news:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-to-match-donations-to-red-cross-for-fort-mcmurray-relief/article29884503/*

Mining magnate Peter Munk is donating $1-million to the Canadian Red Cross to help the thousands of people who have been displaced by the wildfires in the Fort McMurray area – a crisis that the philanthropist said reminds him of his own past as a refugee and marks an opportunity for Canadians to unite.

also
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/the-fort-mcmurray-fire-heres-how-you-can-help-and-receivehelp/article29850877/

Money: Click here to donate to the Red Cross. You can also donate $5 by texting “REDCROSS” to 30333. The Alberta and federal governments have said they’ll match private donations to the Red Cross.
Supplies: Here’s a crowdsourced Facebook page to connect Fort McMurray residents needing items with volunteers providing them.
Shelter: Airbnb has waived its service fees for those affected by the disaster. Here’s where you can check in to offer or seek accommodation.
Volunteers: Those interested in volunteering through the regional municipality can apply here.

Your heart's in the right place Duk, but your head isn't.
Here is why for every dollar the R C gets .90 goes to pay for overhead, I.e. advertising paying staff, board of directors(the top six make 6 figure salaries plus perks per year) so the more money donated the more they make, and they don't show up until someone kicks in a donation that makes it worth their time,
And that this is not a crime is the horrific part

Thanks to the Internet, it only takes a few clicks to check the financial profiles of charities.

https://www.charityintelligence.ca/charity-details/71-canadian-red-cross

Financial Review:
In F2015, CRC's administrative costs were 18% of revenues and its fundraising costs were 19% of donations. F2014 was an extraordinary year for donations with Canadians supporting the CRC for relief in the Alberta floods, Lac Megantic and Typhoon Haiyan in the Philippines. CRC has $195m in funding reserves (excluding donor endowed funds of $1.3m), largely to fund rebuilding efforts in disaster areas. These funding reserves cover annual program costs 82%.

(emphasis added)


Moneysense gave the Canadian Red Cross an A+ in every category.
http://www.moneysense.ca/save/financial-planning/2015-charity-100-grades/

Charity Watch gives it an A-. A quick perusal of other sites gives similar results. On everyone's list, the CRC scores high in financial accountability, efficiency, and transparency. I did a quick check of more than a dozen sites, and none gave less than 3 out of 4 stars (for sites that use star systems), A- (for sites that give letter grades), or 80% (for sites that give numerical scores.)

In any case, if you are uncomfortable with the Red Cross for whatever reason, you can follow any of the other links I provided and give through other means.

For the sake of the Canadian people affected I hope the links you posted are correct and ty Duk, I am cynical, you apparently are not

Kinda seems like you post BS, and can't admit you're wrong, whereas Duk calls you out, but hey, that's just my opinion, and where the evidence leads.

I am coming to the opinion that you might have a problem admitting that you're wrong though.

[DoomYoshi]

it takes a pretty sick mind to find the devil in the Red Cross at a time like this

[Symmetry]

it takes a pretty sick mind to find the devil in the Red Cross at a time like this

Agreed

[jgordon1111]

it takes a pretty sick mind to find the devil in the Red Cross at a time like this

I don't recall mentioning the devil anywhere, and their seems to be a significant difference between the ARC and the CRC and good for them, I did not know there was a difference, apparently there is good for them, maybe they can speak to the Americans about change