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Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:19 pm
by DirtyDishSoap
So recent publication for this, short article but he's a buddy of mine that was hit on patrol.
I know some folks out there are still all about the "But it's druuuuuuugs it's bad for you! YA NEED JESUS!" But yar.
Discuss!

http://time.com/4453039/ptsd-marijuana/?xid=fbshare

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:25 pm
by notyou2
He's much better off smoking grass than all the pills he was taking, or drowning out the pain with alcohol. Glad pot is helping.

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:27 pm
by DirtyDishSoap
He deletes his facebook frequently so it's hard to keep track of the guy. But he's been bouncing back recently, some of the guys get together and go hiking or concerts and such. I'm stuck in the broke college student phase so can't risk the trip.

Good news is, he's a boss.

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:33 pm
by notyou2
Get his email so you can check on him when he closes his account.

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:20 pm
by jgordon1111
At least I can now understand why you support Gary Johnson.

Do you believe that all soldiers who have been in a combat zone have ptsd?

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:38 pm
by nietzsche
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Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:49 pm
by DirtyDishSoap
jgordon1111 wrote:At least I can now understand why you support Gary Johnson.

Do you believe that all soldiers who have been in a combat zone have ptsd?

No because I don't have it.

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:51 pm
by jgordon1111
DirtyDishSoap wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:At least I can now understand why you support Gary Johnson.

Do you believe that all soldiers who have been in a combat zone have ptsd?

No because I don't have it.


Not that it matters to anyone but me, my estimate of you went up.

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:35 am
by KoolBak
Due to my age, I have several friends, past acquaintances and family that have been thru ww2, korea and vietnam....thank the gods I wasnt, but I sure have a lot of feelings about how it affects individuals.....

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:44 am
by DirtyDishSoap
I mean, there are plenty of cases out there where folks use weed to alleviate whatever they have to deal with (disease and such, not just phantom pain.) I just wish federally it would be allowed. There's an episode of Penn and Tellers "Bullshit!" floating around making a pretty strong case the benefits of it. Can't imagine the help it would have given folks years ago vs now where it's more accepted.

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:46 am
by mrswdk
How about a little retail therapy instead? Hollaaaa!

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:07 am
by 2dimes
Weed seems much less harmful than Internet. Who knows though.

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:10 am
by waauw
Just take a trip to the Netherlands bro ;)

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 5:07 am
by Dukasaur
I'm not sure what the question is.

Yes, weed is probably less harmful than most prescription antidepressants and definitely less harmful than alcohol. Still, it is a drug dependency. One has to be honest about that. There is all that stuff about how weed doesn't create physical addiction, but if one can't deal with pain or anxiety without a particular drug, he is drug-dependent. As long as he's okay with that and not stuck in denial, I don't see a problem. Nobody needs to live with chronic pain or chronic depression if relief is possible.

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 5:14 am
by mrswdk
You guys could do with drawing a little inspiration from Mets. He doesn't need drugs because he's high on life.

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Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:19 am
by jgordon1111
Dukasaur wrote:I'm not sure what the question is.

Yes, weed is probably less harmful than most prescription antidepressants and definitely less harmful than alcohol. Still, it is a drug dependency. One has to be honest about that. There is all that stuff about how weed doesn't create physical addiction, but if one can't deal with pain or anxiety without a particular drug, he is drug-dependent. As long as he's okay with that and not stuck in denial, I don't see a problem. Nobody needs to live with chronic pain or chronic depression if relief is possible.


Duk humans are addictive by nature in almost everything they do

But back to the topic, George Washington grew weed
But like everything thing else its about money and the governments ability to control it.

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:33 am
by mrswdk
jgordon1111 wrote:But back to the topic, George Washington grew weed
But like everything thing else its about money and the governments ability to control it.


Cue warmonger.

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:47 am
by 2dimes
jgordon1111 wrote:But back to the topic, George Washington grew weed
But like everything thing else its about money and the governments ability to control it.


Fair and likely true. Why buy that crappy yellow plastic rope if you can get much stronger hemp rope? Likely the reason George grew, rather than for recreation. Then again I never had a chance to hang out with him, maybe he was high every Friday.

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:58 am
by waauw
jgordon1111 wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:I'm not sure what the question is.

Yes, weed is probably less harmful than most prescription antidepressants and definitely less harmful than alcohol. Still, it is a drug dependency. One has to be honest about that. There is all that stuff about how weed doesn't create physical addiction, but if one can't deal with pain or anxiety without a particular drug, he is drug-dependent. As long as he's okay with that and not stuck in denial, I don't see a problem. Nobody needs to live with chronic pain or chronic depression if relief is possible.


Duk humans are addictive by nature in almost everything they do

But back to the topic, George Washington grew weed
But like everything thing else its about money and the governments ability to control it.


People are only addictive if they are hot or funny.

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:21 pm
by tzor
DirtyDishSoap wrote:So recent publication for this, short article but he's a buddy of mine that was hit on patrol.
I know some folks out there are still all about the "But it's druuuuuuugs it's bad for you! YA NEED JESUS!" But yar.
Discuss!


The question of medical marijuana is an interesting one. Under certain circumstances it is better than the alternatives. Let's talk about the REAL WORLD here, that is true for every known medical drug known to man. New York has a "medical marijuana" Program ( About the Medical Marijuana Program ). So we are discussing tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) content and cannabidiol (CBD). The jury is out on the complete effects of these drugs on very critical conditions, but when we are talking about very critical conditions where the alternatives appear to be worse, I would always err on the side of the patient, assuming that it was told these events to the not 100% verified and that the patient assumes the responsibility of using such "experimental" medicines and procedures.

Is it the right drugs? Well we used to use a simple blood thinner to cure headaches, reduce pains, and other similar conditions. Probably wasn't the best thing to do, but it's Aspirin, right?

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:45 pm
by Symmetry
Dukasaur wrote:I'm not sure what the question is.

Yes, weed is probably less harmful than most prescription antidepressants and definitely less harmful than alcohol. Still, it is a drug dependency. One has to be honest about that. There is all that stuff about how weed doesn't create physical addiction, but if one can't deal with pain or anxiety without a particular drug, he is drug-dependent. As long as he's okay with that and not stuck in denial, I don't see a problem. Nobody needs to live with chronic pain or chronic depression if relief is possible.


Addictions take many forms, but perhaps a better term here is reliance. If you rely on a drug to get you through a day, there's a reliance in effect.

I disagree that it's not a problem though. Or, to be more precise, that the status-quo is fine as it is. Psychological therapy is key.

Re: Weed and PTSD!

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:53 pm
by Symmetry
tzor wrote:
DirtyDishSoap wrote:So recent publication for this, short article but he's a buddy of mine that was hit on patrol.
I know some folks out there are still all about the "But it's druuuuuuugs it's bad for you! YA NEED JESUS!" But yar.
Discuss!


The question of medical marijuana is an interesting one. Under certain circumstances it is better than the alternatives. Let's talk about the REAL WORLD here, that is true for every known medical drug known to man. New York has a "medical marijuana" Program ([url]https://www.health.ny.gov/regulations/medical_marijuana/about.htm]About the Medical Marijuana Program[/url]). So we are discussing tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) content and cannabidiol (CBD). The jury is out on the complete effects of these drugs on very critical conditions, but when we are talking about very critical conditions where the alternatives appear to be worse, I would always err on the side of the patient, assuming that it was told these events to the not 100% verified and that the patient assumes the responsibility of using such "experimental" medicines and procedures.

Is it the right drugs? Well we used to use a simple blood thinner to cure headaches, reduce pains, and other similar conditions. Probably wasn't the best thing to do, but it's Aspirin, right?


Aspirin is still a good idea for people with heart conditions. Indeed, getting someone who's having a heart attack to chew on aspirin is basic first aid.