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Muslims in China say they are being told to hand over Qurans or face 'harsh punishments'

Officials in Xinjiang province have warned members of the Uyghur ethnic minority they must surrender religious items on pain of "harsh punishments", according to an exile leader.

"We received a notification saying that every single ethnic Uyghur must hand in any Islam-related items from their own home, including Qurans, prayers and anything else bearing the symbols of religion," Dilxat Raxit, of the exile World Uyghur Congress, told Radio Free Asia (RFA), which is operated by the US government.

The directive also applies to ethnic Kazakh and Kyrgyz Muslims, RFA said. It was reportedly announced via the WeChat social network.

In its update on China in 2016 and 2017, Amnesty International said the communist Beijing government "continued to violate the right to freedom of religion, and crack down on all unauthorised religious gatherings" in the region, and to detain Uyghur writers.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-muslims-hand-over-qurans-uyghur-xinjiang-confiscate-islam-a7973191.html

Dilxat Raxit, of the exile World Uyghur Congress, told Radio Free Asia (RFA)

Symmetry wrote:What would you consider to be the closest thing China has to a free press?

Symmetry wrote:For all the claims of "bias" that people throw at the free press, people should be aware that its better than the alternative.

muy_thaiguy wrote:

Symmetry wrote:For all the claims of "bias" that people throw at the free press, people should be aware that its better than the alternative.

Yeah, right now you see Trump supporters wanting the press to basically be under Trump's control. And Trump has stated as much himself. The moment a non-Republican steps into office though, they would flip their shit. Best to leave the press free.

Thorthoth wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:

Symmetry wrote:For all the claims of "bias" that people throw at the free press, people should be aware that its better than the alternative.

Yeah, right now you see Trump supporters wanting the press to basically be under Trump's control. And Trump has stated as much himself. The moment a non-Republican steps into office though, they would flip their shit. Best to leave the press free.

Symbot's hypocrisy is startling.
Free Press = Free Speech*.
Yet sym has been a major campaigner for CC to further curtail free speech on this site.

*Unless you think free speech should only be allowed for a privileged 'journalist class' of society.

Symmetry wrote:

Thorthoth wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:

Symmetry wrote:For all the claims of "bias" that people throw at the free press, people should be aware that its better than the alternative.

Yeah, right now you see Trump supporters wanting the press to basically be under Trump's control. And Trump has stated as much himself. The moment a non-Republican steps into office though, they would flip their shit. Best to leave the press free.

Symbot's hypocrisy is startling.
Free Press = Free Speech*.
Yet sym has been a major campaigner for CC to further curtail free speech on this site.

*Unless you think free speech should only be allowed for a privileged 'journalist class' of society.

I'm sorry that I startled you. Well, not really, tbh. You do seem a bit easily startled. Would you be startled to know that I think that a free press is related to free speech, but isn't exactly equal?

I hope that idea doesn't startle you too much. After all, a startled Thorth is likely to post inane comments.

Thorthoth wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

Thorthoth wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:

Symmetry wrote:For all the claims of "bias" that people throw at the free press, people should be aware that its better than the alternative.

Yeah, right now you see Trump supporters wanting the press to basically be under Trump's control. And Trump has stated as much himself. The moment a non-Republican steps into office though, they would flip their shit. Best to leave the press free.

Symbot's hypocrisy is startling.
Free Press = Free Speech*.
Yet sym has been a major campaigner for CC to further curtail free speech on this site.

*Unless you think free speech should only be allowed for a privileged 'journalist class' of society.

I'm sorry that I startled you. Well, not really, tbh. You do seem a bit easily startled. Would you be startled to know that I think that a free press is related to free speech, but isn't exactly equal?

I hope that idea doesn't startle you too much. After all, a startled Thorth is likely to post inane comments.

Shut your trap, Symbot.Everything you write is hypocritical troll-fodder.
I already explained and dismissed the false distinction between 'free press' and 'free speech'.

Thorthoth wrote:Free Press = Free Speech

Symmetry wrote:

Thorthoth wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

Thorthoth wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:

Symmetry wrote:For all the claims of "bias" that people throw at the free press, people should be aware that its better than the alternative.

Yeah, right now you see Trump supporters wanting the press to basically be under Trump's control. And Trump has stated as much himself. The moment a non-Republican steps into office though, they would flip their shit. Best to leave the press free.

Symbot's hypocrisy is startling.
Free Press = Free Speech*.
Yet sym has been a major campaigner for CC to further curtail free speech on this site.

*Unless you think free speech should only be allowed for a privileged 'journalist class' of society.

I'm sorry that I startled you. Well, not really, tbh. You do seem a bit easily startled. Would you be startled to know that I think that a free press is related to free speech, but isn't exactly equal?

I hope that idea doesn't startle you too much. After all, a startled Thorth is likely to post inane comments.

Shut your trap, Symbot.Everything you write is hypocritical troll-fodder.
I already explained and dismissed the false distinction between 'free press' and 'free speech'.

Thorthoth wrote:Free Press = Free Speech

Hmm, hypocrisy, you say?

Thorthoth wrote:Hypocritical Troll-fodder is what I say!

Symmetry wrote:A few cogent arguments, say?