Conquer Club

10 years after its official entry into the Russian Army the killer of F-35 is officially offered for sale.
Belarus, China, India, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Algeria are all already lined up. The number of countries that want to have this piece of military equipment is quite long. The Russians will probably need to start thinking for expanding of their production capacities if the demand is so high.

Saudi Arabia agrees to buy Russian S-400 air defense system: Arabiya TV

So what is the faith of F-35 project now? Will Americans and their allies continue throwing money into a dead project?

the f 35 was a turkey long before the s 400.
f 35s are target practice for the Russian Sukhois and Migs

s 400s can take down Strategic bombers such as the B-1, B-2,[93] FB-111 and B-52H
Electronic warfare airplanes such as the EF-111A and EA-6
Reconnaissance airplanes such as the TR-1
Early-warning radar airplanes such as the E-3A and E-2C
Fighter airplanes such as the F-15, F-16, F-35[94] and F-22
Strategic cruise missiles such as the Tomahawk
Ballistic missiles (range up to 3,500 km)[63]

What I think would be funny is if Putin put s 400s in and around N Korea.

armati wrote:the f 35 was a turkey long before the s 400.
f 35s are target practice for the Russian Sukhois and Migs

s 400s can take down Strategic bombers such as the B-1, B-2,[93] FB-111 and B-52H
Electronic warfare airplanes such as the EF-111A and EA-6
Reconnaissance airplanes such as the TR-1
Early-warning radar airplanes such as the E-3A and E-2C
Fighter airplanes such as the F-15, F-16, F-35[94] and F-22
Strategic cruise missiles such as the Tomahawk
Ballistic missiles (range up to 3,500 km)[63]

What I think would be funny is if Putin put s 400s in and around N Korea.

Reality is that there are already counter-measures making the S 400 only partially effective.

have u seen "the pentagon wars", Goran? I think you'd enjoy it...

I'm not married to it but, one of my theories is the JSF is a dog to prove drones are the way to go.

Well I'm sure you guys have a lot to do here. Toodaloo.

Yeah, the S-400 is just totes kewl!

@ Bernie
Your wrong.

Remember the false claims of Syria using chemical weapons?
Trump decides to send a volley of tomahawk cruise missiles.
How many hit their target?

Was it the s 400 or are american cruise missiles simply inaccurate pcs of crap?

Reality is that there are no counter-measures , unless you consider firing more Tomahawks than s 400s a counter measure.

If you would like, check out "southfront" u tube, and you will find the dif between american missiles and Russian.
The Russians do not miss.

Bernie, the reason so many nations are lining up to buy s 400s is because they work.

Actually, there is a line up to buy alot of Russian equipment, it has all proven itself in Syria.

For comparision, check out the USS Zumwalt(only 3 to 4.5 billion or so)
Zumwalt-class destroyer, or f 35.( might as well plan the funeral for the pilots when they leave for combat, they dead)

There have been too many $60,000 toilet seats in the american military for too long.

The americans better have some secret alien tech if their going to get into it with the Russians.

armati wrote:Bernie, the reason so many nations are lining up to buy s 400s is because they work.

Actually, there is a line up to buy alot of Russian equipment, it has all proven itself in Syria.

For comparision, check out the USS Zumwalt(only 3 to 4.5 billion or so)
Zumwalt-class destroyer, or f 35.( might as well plan the funeral for the pilots when they leave for combat, they dead)

There have been too many $60,000 toilet seats in the american military for too long.

The americans better have some secret alien tech if their going to get into it with the Russians.

S400 is not proven in combat.

So, since Trump is a Russian stooge, you are too?

Please don't compare the Russian Navy to the American Navy.

We have the best military equipment in the world.

Nice exaggeration on the toilet seat. Hey, you got a shirtless Putin picture by your bed?

One more thing, American Military in a conventional war would wipe any Russian attack.

You funny.

how did you come to this conclusion, fake bern? perhaps you should stick to your jiggling ladies thread...

Bernie Sanders wrote:Please don't compare the Russian Navy to the American Navy.

We have the best military equipment in the world.

Wow, Bernie ... I never thought you had it in you.

Bernie, that thinking is what could get us all killed.(it is ignorant insanity)

Check out the american equipment, check the Russian stuff, if you dont understand that Russia has been fighting isis in Syria. Well, all I gotta say is..duh.
Their equipment is proven.

lol, here is another one, check the competitions in India, the export Russian fighters beat the american fighters 12-0 Bernie, 12 -0

Or how about the american navy just happens to not see frieghters? LOL
not once but twice. ya sure, thats a great navy.
Rammed by freighters, give me a break, ya, wicked navy, like their newest addition the Zumwalt, oops, doesnt go anywhere without tug boats. Just great.
Aircraft carriers, how many billions?
How many missiles it take to sink them?
They have been preparing for the last war.

Or how about guys from caves take cessna lesson and can highjack airliners, get past multiple defense networks and take down multiple towers in downtown NY.

Ya, dont that make ya feel reeeeaaaal safe from attack?

Bernie, there is a reason the reserve currency is changing and the american empire is dying.
The gung ho crap merely helps to continue the degradation.

The Russians and Chinese luv ya.

I think maybe fake bern should watch "the pentagon wars" , as well...

What's the big deal? The S-400 is decades old, and by no means top technology anymore. To assume the americans have nothing that can beat the S-400 defense system, is ludicrous.

Bernie Sanders wrote:Hey, you got a shirtless Putin picture by your bed?

You can bet your left nut Saxi does.

You do have a left nut, right? If you don't I was not being insensitive. I didn't know.

THE CLASSIC $640 TOILET SEAT
Despite the tens of billions being wasted on a project like the F-35, the examples that tend to draw the most attention from the media and the most outrage among taxpayers involve overspending on routine items. This may be because the average person doesn’t have a sense of what a fighter plane should cost, but can more easily grasp that spending $640 for a toilet seat or $7,600 for a coffee pot is outrageous. These kinds of examples—first exposed through work done in the 1980s by Dina Rasor of the Project on Military Procurement—undermined the position taken by President Ronald Reagan’s administration that not a penny could be cut from its then-record peacetime Pentagon budgets.

You got me on that one Bernie, 60k was an exaggeration.
course when ya buy 1000 of them.....alota poopen in the military ya know.

armati wrote:THE CLASSIC $640 TOILET SEAT
Despite the tens of billions being wasted on a project like the F-35, the examples that tend to draw the most attention from the media and the most outrage among taxpayers involve overspending on routine items. This may be because the average person doesn’t have a sense of what a fighter plane should cost, but can more easily grasp that spending $640 for a toilet seat or $7,600 for a coffee pot is outrageous. These kinds of examples—first exposed through work done in the 1980s by Dina Rasor of the Project on Military Procurement—undermined the position taken by President Ronald Reagan’s administration that not a penny could be cut from its then-record peacetime Pentagon budgets.

You got me on that one Bernie, 60k was an exaggeration.
course when ya buy 1000 of them.....alota poopen in the military ya know.

Why did Russia purchase Naval Ships from France?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral-class_amphibious_assault_ship

Really, reading crap from Goran and you makes my head explode!

Russia is in decline. Population is declining and a economy on par with Italy. Let's not even discuss the corruption, graft and alcoholism that pervades every corner of that shithole called Russia.

You sound like your very familiar with Russia Bernie.
When was the last time you visited, what part, for how long?

Oh, the reason the Russians wanted to purchase vessels made in France was they wanted them, the french companies won the contracts.
Neat to find out the French are not trustworthy enough to fulfill a contract isnt it?

Bernie Sanders wrote:Russia is in decline. Population is declining and a economy on par with Italy. Let's not even discuss the corruption, graft and alcoholism that pervades every corner of that shithole called Russia.

Don't forget their overdependance on oil and gas. Europe and Asia are slowly turning towards electric cars, a future that could turn the Russian economy into a train wreck.

Oh oh, he avoided the question. Probably lost his left nut. Awkward.

waauw wrote:

Bernie Sanders wrote:Russia is in decline. Population is declining and a economy on par with Italy. Let's not even discuss the corruption, graft and alcoholism that pervades every corner of that shithole called Russia.

Don't forget their overdependance on oil and gas. Europe and Asia are slowly turning towards electric cars, a future that could turn the Russian economy into a train wreck.

You have very few plausible places to build hydroelectric plants, a climate hostile to solar, a political climate hostile to nuclear, and coal is on the way out. I think ultimately you will be making electricity from oil and gas.

Dukasaur wrote:

waauw wrote:

Bernie Sanders wrote:Russia is in decline. Population is declining and a economy on par with Italy. Let's not even discuss the corruption, graft and alcoholism that pervades every corner of that shithole called Russia.

Don't forget their overdependance on oil and gas. Europe and Asia are slowly turning towards electric cars, a future that could turn the Russian economy into a train wreck.

You have very few plausible places to build hydroelectric plants, a climate hostile to solar, a political climate hostile to nuclear, and coal is on the way out. I think ultimately you will be making electricity from oil and gas.

WTF? You need to read up on what's really going on with solar and wind turbines. You are spending way too much time at CC.

.....WAIT A MINUTE.......are you a paid agent of Russia?

Dukasaur wrote:

waauw wrote:

Bernie Sanders wrote:Russia is in decline. Population is declining and a economy on par with Italy. Let's not even discuss the corruption, graft and alcoholism that pervades every corner of that shithole called Russia.

Don't forget their overdependance on oil and gas. Europe and Asia are slowly turning towards electric cars, a future that could turn the Russian economy into a train wreck.

You have very few plausible places to build hydroelectric plants, a climate hostile to solar, a political climate hostile to nuclear, and coal is on the way out. I think ultimately you will be making electricity from oil and gas.

On the contrary, it's very much about renewables and nuclear.

Germany:



France:



china's 5 year-plan:



https://thediplomat.com/2016/08/chinas-5-year-plan-for-energy/