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Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:46 pm
by armati
Debate over migrant ‘caravan’ ignores the real problem: Decades of destabilizing US foreign policy.

https://youtu.be/ro0zndez8Zo

https://www.rt.com/usa/442182-migrant-c ... ilization/

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:52 pm
by DoomYoshi
I think the real problem is that our Western wealth only exists because we exploit the other. Once the other starts taking some of the wealth, there isn't any left for the exploiters.

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:46 am
by HitRed
So if the USA goes Nationalist and stays home you wouldn't complain?

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:58 am
by mrswdk
cba to click the links but is a 'migrant caravan' a bit like a 'migrant train' (i.e. this thread should be merged with the rapefugees thread)?

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:59 am
by DoomYoshi
HitRed wrote:So if the USA goes Nationalist and stays home you wouldn't complain?


That's not what I said. I reap the rewards of that racist/xenophobic/nationalist exploitation. I just acknowledge it, unlike most people.

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:31 am
by HitRed
DoomYoshi wrote:
HitRed wrote:So if the USA goes Nationalist and stays home you wouldn't complain?


That's not what I said. I reap the rewards of that racist/xenophobic/nationalist exploitation. I just acknowledge it, unlike most people.


My question was more for Armati. I should have used this name. Thanks for being honest though.

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:51 pm
by armati
Would I complain if the american forces went home?

Of course not, Thats what I think should happen.

They wont of course, the zionists and neocons are after hegemony of the world.

There is no reason they cant occupy a leadership role in the world, thru the mic just isnt the way.

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:19 pm
by HitRed
armati wrote:Would I complain if the american forces went home?

Of course not, Thats what I think should happen.

They wont of course, the zionists and neocons are after hegemony of the world.

There is no reason they cant occupy a leadership role in the world, thru the mic just isnt the way.


We can't even get hegemony at home. The world would be a tall order.

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:54 pm
by armati
How the Military Industrial Complex Controls America - Global Research
https://www.globalresearch.ca/how-the-m ... ../5633549
Jun 30, 2018 - How the Military Industrial Complex Controls America .... in these 102 districts are current or past agents of the military-intelligence complex.

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:06 am
by HitRed
armati wrote:How the Military Industrial Complex Controls America - Global Research
https://www.globalresearch.ca/how-the-m ... ../5633549
Jun 30, 2018 - How the Military Industrial Complex Controls America .... in these 102 districts are current or past agents of the military-intelligence complex.


I own Honeywell.

Doesn't Big Energy control America?

Or was it AARP?

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:56 pm
by karel
send every single one of them back,even if we have to use force on these people

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:02 pm
by Symmetry
armati wrote:Debate over migrant ‘caravan’ ignores the real problem: Decades of destabilizing US foreign policy.

https://youtu.be/ro0zndez8Zo

https://www.rt.com/usa/442182-migrant-c ... ilization/


Oh no! Russia Today is the only honest reportage on what benefits the US when it comes to foreign policy?

You might get a few gullible folk here, but most will know that's Russian propaganda.

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:37 pm
by spurgistan
Symmetry wrote:
armati wrote:Debate over migrant ‘caravan’ ignores the real problem: Decades of destabilizing US foreign policy.

https://youtu.be/ro0zndez8Zo

https://www.rt.com/usa/442182-migrant-c ... ilization/


Oh no! Russia Today is the only honest reportage on what benefits the US when it comes to foreign policy?

You might get a few gullible folk here, but most will know that's Russian propaganda.


I mean stopped clocks are occasionally right in that destabilizing US policies are major contributors to Central American migration. Of course the Russians would never start a regional war but that's not technically relevant to how the US has historically prevented Honduras Nicaragua and Guatemala from having stable governments that aren't in lockstep with the US.

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:48 pm
by Symmetry
spurgistan wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
armati wrote:Debate over migrant ‘caravan’ ignores the real problem: Decades of destabilizing US foreign policy.

https://youtu.be/ro0zndez8Zo

https://www.rt.com/usa/442182-migrant-c ... ilization/


Oh no! Russia Today is the only honest reportage on what benefits the US when it comes to foreign policy?

You might get a few gullible folk here, but most will know that's Russian propaganda.


I mean stopped clocks are occasionally right in that destabilizing US policies are major contributors to Central American migration. Of course the Russians would never start a regional war but that's not technically relevant to how the US has historically prevented Honduras Nicaragua and Guatemala from having stable governments that aren't in lockstep with the US.


Do you really think that post-Soviet Russia is interested in a stable South America?

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:14 pm
by armati
@ sym
Russian insider or RT are Russian yupper thats true, from inside Russia or other nations.
Ya think everyone writting for it is Russian?

RT maintains 21 bureaus in 16 countries, including those in Washington, D.C., New York City, London, England; Paris, France; Delhi, India; Cairo, Egypt; Baghdad, Iraq; and Kiev, Ukraine. It employs over 2,000 media professionals worldwide

Just out of interest, sym, try reading AN AMERICAN USMC GENERALS book "war is a racket" smedly butler
or was he a Russian in disguise....guess we will never know right?

Another piece of info for you sym

Banana Wars - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Wars
The Banana Wars were the occupations, police actions, and interventions on the part of the United States in Central America and the Caribbean between the ..what is happening today is a direct result of this.

I know I know..tuff to make an obvious connection.

Does a person working for rubles writing an article make everything Major general Butler said a lie sym?
Highest decorated marine up to his date, was he lying sym?

Or maybe its just you ....hmmmm, whats more likely?

Maybe get ur head outa ur butt.

Not that you want to know anything about what ur talkin about but 'Confessions of an economic hitman' John Perkins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Perkins_(author)

Just read the wiki page...course he is some kind of alien russian commie spy pig too right sym?

Sym, you remind me of the expression "sheeple" wake up buddy.

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:01 am
by Symmetry
armati, I doubt I'll ever consider RT as a reliable news source, unless as an insight into Kremlin propaganda. It is what it is.

The "sheeple" accusation was kind of funny though, given your love of RT.

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:15 pm
by spurgistan
Symmetry wrote:
spurgistan wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
armati wrote:Debate over migrant ‘caravan’ ignores the real problem: Decades of destabilizing US foreign policy.

https://youtu.be/ro0zndez8Zo

https://www.rt.com/usa/442182-migrant-c ... ilization/


Oh no! Russia Today is the only honest reportage on what benefits the US when it comes to foreign policy?

You might get a few gullible folk here, but most will know that's Russian propaganda.


I mean stopped clocks are occasionally right in that destabilizing US policies are major contributors to Central American migration. Of course the Russians would never start a regional war but that's not technically relevant to how the US has historically prevented Honduras Nicaragua and Guatemala from having stable governments that aren't in lockstep with the US.


Do you really think that post-Soviet Russia is interested in a stable South America?


Of course not. But like I said even propaganda outlets can be not wrong sometimes. Do you not think that American policies have had a damaging effect on stability in central America which has aided in the outflows of migrants?

Re: Debate over migrant caravan ignores the real problem

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:23 pm
by armati
Keep ur eyes and mind closed sym.

Other people see the perspective.