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Happy 191st Birthday Gen. J.O.Shelby!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:35 am

--------------- Happy 191st Birthday General J.O.(Joseph Orville) Shelby...THE UNDEFEATED :!: =D> =D> =D> ......Gen. Shelby was never beaten by Union troops , during The War Between The States...He and his men went to Mexico...A John Wayne movie with Rock Hudson (Col. Langdon) is based on Gen.Shelby...As Gen. Shelby went Mexico to serve Mexican Emporer Maximilian...Who in the movie , Hudson never meets...In real life, Maximilian turns down Shelby's help...But leases Shelby and his men land near Veracruz...They name it New Virginia Colony...
------------They stay for 2 years...When Maximilian is overthrown , they lose their lease...Gen. Shelby returns to America, he would go on to become a U.S.Marshall...Some of his men would go on to Brazil...Where after The War Between The States , 20,000 Confederates went and formed a County/State , Americana...About 120 miles from San Paulo...They are still there today...They are known as Confederados...
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Re: Happy 191st Birthday Gen. J.O.Shelby!!!

Postby riskllama on Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:26 am

do you suppose it was them that told the nazis to come on down???

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Re: Happy 191st Birthday Gen. J.O.Shelby!!!

Postby jimboston on Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:50 am

So he never lost, but he ran away… what a hero.
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Re: Happy 191st Birthday Gen. J.O.Shelby!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:13 am

What was posted is a bit misleading. He ran away rather than stay in the South AFTER General Lee's surrender. Shelby had many victories against Union forces.

btw: His descendent came up with the Shelby Mustang...! :D

Following the Confederate attack on Fort Sumter in April 1861, Missouri Governor Claiborne Fox Jackson refused Lincoln's call for volunteers and maneuvered to take the state out of the Union. The resulting friction between State and Federal militias vying for control of the St. Louis Arsenal led to the Camp Jackson affair and the creation of the pro-secession Missouri State Guard.[6]

Shelby formed the Lafayette County Mounted Rifles for Missouri State Guard service and was elected the company's captain, leading it into battle at Carthage, Wilson's Creek, and Pea Ridge. In 1862, he was promoted to colonel and authorized to recruit a Confederate cavalry regiment, returning to Lafayette County to do so. After successfully bringing the regiment safely back to Arkansas, he was given command of a brigade of newly recruited regiments.

In the fall of 1863, Shelby led his "Iron Brigade" of Missouri volunteers on what was at the time the longest cavalry raid of the war, Shelby's Raid. Between September 22 and November 3, 1863, Shelby's brigade traveled 1,500 miles through Missouri, inflicting over 1,000 casualties on Union forces and capturing or destroying an estimated $2 million worth of federal supplies and property. He was promoted to brigadier-general on December 15, 1863, following the successful conclusion of his raid.[7]

In 1864, Union General Frederick Steele's failure in the Camden Expedition of March 23 – May 2, 1864 was largely due to Shelby's brilliant and determined harassment, in concert with other Confederate forces. Steele's men were forced to retreat to Little Rock by the destruction or capture of their supply trains at the Battle of Marks' Mills.[8] Reassigned to Clarendon, Arkansas, Shelby succeeded in capturing a Union tinclad (lightly armored) gunboat, the USS Queen City. The gunboat was burned to prevent her recapture.[9] Shelby then commanded a division during Price's Missouri Expedition. He distinguished himself at the battles of Little Blue River and Westport, and briefly captured many towns from their Union garrisons, including Potosi, Boonville, Waverly, Stockton, Lexington, and California, Missouri.[10]

After Robert E. Lee's army surrendered in Virginia in April 1865, General Edmund Kirby Smith appointed Shelby a major general on May 10. The promotion was never formalized, however, due to the collapse of the Confederate government. Shelby's adjutant at the time was John Newman Edwards, who years later (as editor of the Kansas City Times) was largely responsible for creating the anti-hero legend of Jesse James and his fellow Confederate guerrillas.

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In June 1865, rather than surrender, Shelby and approximately 1,000 of his remaining troops rode south into Mexico.
Reportedly, Shelby sank his battle flag in the Rio Grande near present-day Eagle Pass, Texas, on the way to Mexico rather than risk the flag falling into the hands of the Federals. The event is depicted in a painting displayed at the Eagle Pass City Hall. For their determination not to surrender, Shelby's men were immortalized as "the undefeated". A later verse appended to the post-war Confederate anthem "The Unreconstructed Rebel" commemorates the defiance of Shelby and his men:

I won't be reconstructed, I'm better now than then.
And for a Carpetbagger I do not give a damn.
So it's forward to the frontier, soon as I can go.
I'll fix me up a weapon and start for Mexico.[11]


The plan was to offer their services to Emperor Maximilian as a "foreign legion". Maximilian declined to accept the ex-Confederates into his armed forces, but he did grant them land for the New Virginia Colony, an American settlement in Mexico near Veracruz. The grant was revoked two years later following the collapse of the empire and Maximilan's execution. The memory of Shelby and his men as "The Undefeated" is used as a basis for the 1969 John Wayne–Rock Hudson film by the same name.
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Re: Happy 191st Birthday Gen. J.O.Shelby!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:39 am

riskllama wrote:do you suppose it was them that told the nazis to come on down???

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-------Why Confederate Statues and Symbols , American symbols of Freedom....Yes , Freedom... Throughout the world...
-------- Because , there are good and bad in all walks of life....During every war since The War Between The States....Very mostly in World War 2 Southern Regiments that fought... Because most of the people who have joined the military , and fought throughout America's wars are from the SOUTH... Country...That is why to Honor their fighting spirit ,bases are named after Southerners, along with bringing America together years after the war...Many Southerners were like Granny from the Beverly Hillbillies...
-----------Where the Dixiecrats would exploit those feelings, as Strom Thurmond ran for President in the 40's....President IKE would remember what Southeners ment to the military...He had a portrait of LEE in the oval office...Put Confederate symbols in the military...Such as patches on the arms of units , Southeners fought in...
-----------Those Regiments would go on to win battles against Germany , Japan, and Italy...Caring the battle flag into battle...When they would win , they would shout, we finally won one... :D ...In many towns and villages throughout Europe,Asia....The people remember what units like Old Hickory did for them in the name of Freedom...As U.S. Southern, Confederate American Plaques and Statues dot their landscape...Along side U.S. Yankee American ones...So, NO :!: to your question, Llama...

----------Jp4fun , He didn't run away at all...At that point , They took their families , for a better start...after the end of the war...As the SOUTH was destroyed and still has never recovered from The War Between the States....Ironic isn't it... Americans going South for a better start...Now everyone is heading North...
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Re: Happy 191st Birthday Gen. J.O.Shelby!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:32 pm

I did NOT say he ran; my post added details that you omitted or did not state. The subsequent posts by others suggested he ran before fighting, which my source pointed out that he DID NOT RUN until AFTER Lee's surrender in VA.
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