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Another Science Thread: Atomic Theory

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:33 pm

https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-new-ex ... s-20230612

A new measurement of the strong nuclear force, which binds protons and neutrons together, confirms previous hints of an uncomfortable truth: We still don’t have a solid theoretical grasp of even the simplest nuclear systems.

To test the strong nuclear force, physicists turned to the helium-4 nucleus, which has two protons and two neutrons. When helium nuclei are excited, they grow like an inflating balloon until one of the protons pops off. Surprisingly, in a recent experiment, helium nuclei didn’t swell according to plan: They ballooned more than expected before they burst. A measurement describing that expansion, called the form factor, is twice as large as theoretical predictions.


If you want to read the actual article, it's here:
https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/1 ... 130.152502

There's a good chance here that Weinberg's groundbreaking 1990 paper will be superseded with a new theoretical framework.

What's the question: how does the strong nuclear force hold atoms' nuclei together?
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Re: Another Science Thread: Atomic Theory

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:49 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-new-experiment-casts-doubt-on-the-leading-theory-of-the-nucleus-20230612

A new measurement of the strong nuclear force, which binds protons and neutrons together, confirms previous hints of an uncomfortable truth: We still don’t have a solid theoretical grasp of even the simplest nuclear systems.

To test the strong nuclear force, physicists turned to the helium-4 nucleus, which has two protons and two neutrons. When helium nuclei are excited, they grow like an inflating balloon until one of the protons pops off. Surprisingly, in a recent experiment, helium nuclei didn’t swell according to plan: They ballooned more than expected before they burst. A measurement describing that expansion, called the form factor, is twice as large as theoretical predictions.


If you want to read the actual article, it's here:
https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/1 ... 130.152502

There's a good chance here that Weinberg's groundbreaking 1990 paper will be superseded with a new theoretical framework.

What's the question: how does the strong nuclear force hold atoms' nuclei together?


Two surprises:

1) No one, until now, responded.

2) We do not fully grasp one of the four fundamental forces.

We have 2 real shockers here.
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Re: Another Science Thread: Atomic Theory

Postby KoolBak on Mon Jun 26, 2023 7:24 pm

10 more seconds I'll never get back.
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AND:
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Re: Another Science Thread: Atomic Theory

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Jun 26, 2023 7:32 pm

KoolBak wrote:10 more seconds I'll never get back.


Time's up. I see you had nothing of value or intelligence to add here. Another SHOCK..! :o
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