Conquer Club

George Washington wrote:Experience, which is the best teacher for action, so clearly and decisively condemns confidence placed in militia, that no one who values order, regularity and economy and who loves his own honor, character and inner peace will put any confidence on the outcome of anything undertaken with militia.

George Washington wrote:Short service and unfounded confidence in the militia were the causes of all our misfortunes and the increase in our debt.

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In the same year that the second amendment was passed, an insurrection against the whiskey tax was started on the Western frontier, now known as the “Whiskey Rebellion” (1791-1794). President George Washington sent in militias from Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Virginia to put down that rebellion. These were “well-regulated militias necessary to the security of a free State.”

President Washington saw the second amendment as a way of protecting our Republic, not as a means to “render it powerless” as that reader suggested.

DoomYoshi wrote:I don't believe the militias that came from the militia act have the same meaning as militia in the second amendment.

Here's why I think this.
My understanding is:
Constitution of the US is written but several states won't sign it, because they are worried about over-reach of federal power. Bill of Rights is added as a concession to limit the federal power. In that context, the reason for the second amendment is so that states can raise militias against a standing federal army.

So a federal militia (the militias which Washington used, the forerunners of the national guard) is not a militia as intended by the second amendment. I know that you can find several federalists who have a different view of the second amendment. However, since the entire bill of rights was meant for the anti-federalists, we should really be looking at what they were hoping to gain.

In any case, I was just trolling a bit. The above quotes come from Washington's frustrations in the mid 1770s from having to retrain a new group of farmers every season. He just wanted an actual army to work with. I don't actually think Washington opposed the Bill of Rights, but he wasn't one of the people pushing for it, either.

jimboston wrote:Also the 2nd Amendment says “well regulated” militia.

bigtoughralf wrote:

jimboston wrote:Also the 2nd Amendment says “well regulated” militia.

Sounds a bit communist to me.

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DirtyDishSoap wrote:The lack of quotes in this thread is disheartening

Washington Quotes

"To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace."

"Having now finished the work assigned me, I retire from the great theatre of Action."

"Gentlemen, you will permit me to put on my spectacles, for, I have grown not only gray, but almost blind in the service of my country." ...

"Every post is honorable in which a man can serve his country." ...

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