Page 1 of 1

God Bless America!

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:53 pm
by captain.crazy

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:53 pm
by Timminz
tl;dr

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:40 pm
by Hologram
How was that at all relevant to anything? Does Congressman Forbes have nothing better to do than grandstand about useless theories? I mean it's not like there's laws to be signed or anything.

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 11:58 pm
by captain.crazy
Hologram wrote:How was that at all relevant to anything? Does Congressman Forbes have nothing better to do than grandstand about useless theories? I mean it's not like there's laws to be signed or anything.


Oh... so when someone does or says something that offends you, you should just suck it up?

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:26 am
by Hologram
captain.crazy wrote:
Hologram wrote:How was that at all relevant to anything? Does Congressman Forbes have nothing better to do than grandstand about useless theories? I mean it's not like there's laws to be signed or anything.


Oh... so when someone does or says something that offends you, you should just suck it up?

Yes. It's called not being a bitch and growing some goddamn thick skin. The House has more important things to do than listen to a man whine about whether the country is Judeo-Christian or not.

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:53 am
by captain.crazy
Hologram wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:
Hologram wrote:How was that at all relevant to anything? Does Congressman Forbes have nothing better to do than grandstand about useless theories? I mean it's not like there's laws to be signed or anything.


Oh... so when someone does or says something that offends you, you should just suck it up?

Yes. It's called not being a bitch and growing some goddamn thick skin. The House has more important things to do than listen to a man whine about whether the country is Judeo-Christian or not.


So you don't like the things that the Congressman said about his sore feelings regarding comments made by Obama, and yet, you think that he shut the f*ck up... I see a circle of hypocrisy here! :lol:

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:06 am
by Snorri1234
Hologram wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:
Hologram wrote:How was that at all relevant to anything? Does Congressman Forbes have nothing better to do than grandstand about useless theories? I mean it's not like there's laws to be signed or anything.


Oh... so when someone does or says something that offends you, you should just suck it up?

Yes. It's called not being a bitch and growing some goddamn thick skin. The House has more important things to do than listen to a man whine about whether the country is Judeo-Christian or not.


Not to mention that he's wrong anyway.

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:09 am
by Hologram
captain.crazy wrote:
Hologram wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:
Hologram wrote:How was that at all relevant to anything? Does Congressman Forbes have nothing better to do than grandstand about useless theories? I mean it's not like there's laws to be signed or anything.


Oh... so when someone does or says something that offends you, you should just suck it up?

Yes. It's called not being a bitch and growing some goddamn thick skin. The House has more important things to do than listen to a man whine about whether the country is Judeo-Christian or not.


So you don't like the things that the Congressman said about his sore feelings regarding comments made by Obama, and yet, you think that he shut the f*ck up... I see a circle of hypocrisy here! :lol:

I didn't say that I didn't like them, I just know that I'm paying my Senators and Congressmen to legislate laws, not to say how butthurt they are about what someone said.

Now if he were trying to pass some bill into law that declared the US a Judeo-Christian state or some bullshit, then sure, why not. I don't agree with that thanks the the First Amendment, but let him fail. At least he'd be trying to do his job. All I saw on that clip was a Congressman wasting the House's time talking about an inconsequential statement when they could have been debating an actual bill.

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:32 am
by captain.crazy
Hologram wrote:I didn't say that I didn't like them, I just know that I'm paying my Senators and Congressmen to legislate laws, not to say how butthurt they are about what someone said.

Now if he were trying to pass some bill into law that declared the US a Judeo-Christian state or some bullshit, then sure, why not. I don't agree with that thanks the the First Amendment, but let him fail. At least he'd be trying to do his job. All I saw on that clip was a Congressman wasting the House's time talking about an inconsequential statement when they could have been debating an actual bill.


But you just called him a bitch! and further, You must not have watched the whole video, because he is submitting "The Spiritual Heritage Resolution!" (its at about 3:30 in the clip)

Okay? So since he was actually doing his job (which, I submit that he was doing his job by carrying out his constituents will) can you retract your harsh statements about him, you know, since you didn't exactly know that you were talking about? :lol:

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:40 am
by Lord and Master
don't you guys (ie americans) have something about separation of state and church written into your constitution?
Should someone point this out to your politicians :shock:

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:47 am
by captain.crazy
Lord+Master wrote:don't you guys (ie americans) have something about separation of state and church written into your constitution?
Should someone point this out to your politicians :shock:


It is a separation of church and state, not God and state. It simply says that the government cannot force its people to subscribe to a single church, like they used to do in England... or like the do today all over the middle east.

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:27 am
by Lord and Master
captain.crazy wrote:
Lord+Master wrote:don't you guys (ie americans) have something about separation of state and church written into your constitution?
Should someone point this out to your politicians :shock:


It is a separation of church and state, not God and state. It simply says that the government cannot force its people to subscribe to a single church, like they used to do in England... or like the do today all over the middle east.

I see, I thought it meant something like keep religion out of politics and vice versa, obviously nothing means what it first seems to!

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:37 am
by Nobunaga
Lord+Master wrote:don't you guys (ie americans) have something about separation of state and church written into your constitution?
Should someone point this out to your politicians :shock:


... Nah, this is covered in the General Welfare Provision.

... Tonka instructed me on this point.

...

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:44 am
by captain.crazy
Lord+Master wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:
Lord+Master wrote:don't you guys (ie americans) have something about separation of state and church written into your constitution?
Should someone point this out to your politicians :shock:


It is a separation of church and state, not God and state. It simply says that the government cannot force its people to subscribe to a single church, like they used to do in England... or like the do today all over the middle east.

I see, I thought it meant something like keep religion out of politics and vice versa, obviously nothing means what it first seems to!


definitely not. Think of the term Homeland security... It really means homeland Tyranny... Think if the term Bailout... it really means hand out for failing companies that are going to fail regardless. But in this case, the intention was that church is not to dictate law. Nor should law dictate religious values. But our government was founded on Jeudao-Christian values. Of that, there is no question. Obama is a dick.

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:09 pm
by Frigidus
captain.crazy wrote:But our government was founded on Jeudao-Christian values. Of that, there is no question.


We already know that...why do you have to point that out in congress? A high school U.S. History class can tell you that, why push forward a freaking bill to affirm something best affirmed in a textbook?

Edit: Also, what do you mean our government was founded on those values? Country, sure, but government? What foundational legislature links us to Christianity, exactly? The "our creator" bit aside, of course, as that is a quite neutral term.

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:12 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Lord+Master wrote:don't you guys (ie americans) have something about separation of state and church written into your constitution?
Should someone point this out to your politicians :shock:

Not quite like that. Mainly, it says that the Federal Government cannot set up a main church, like the Church of England over in Britain.

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:14 pm
by Frigidus
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Lord+Master wrote:don't you guys (ie americans) have something about separation of state and church written into your constitution?
Should someone point this out to your politicians :shock:

Not quite like that. Mainly, it says that the Federal Government cannot set up a main church, like the Church of England over in Britain.


There is technically no law affirming 'seperation of church and state' that can define the term, hence why interpretation of the phrase varies quite a bit.

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 1:39 pm
by Snorri1234
Frigidus wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:But our government was founded on Jeudao-Christian values. Of that, there is no question.


We already know that...why do you have to point that out in congress? A high school U.S. History class can tell you that, why push forward a freaking bill to affirm something best affirmed in a textbook?

Edit: Also, what do you mean our government was founded on those values? Country, sure, but government? What foundational legislature links us to Christianity, exactly? The "our creator" bit aside, of course, as that is a quite neutral term.


Besides, isn't judeo-christian values a vague term anyway? Is founding on judeo-christian values not just a fancy way of saying that most people were christian or jew?

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:43 pm
by AndyDufresne
I was going to create my own topic, but the title of this old topic seemed pretty fitting:

Image

Also, here is a list of sex laws: http://observationdeck.io9.com/the-comp ... 1485048155


--Andy

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:55 pm
by thegreekdog
Michigan seems the most problematic. I suppose we need to interview Serbia and Tripitaka to find out the details.

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:11 pm
by patches70
thegreekdog wrote:Michigan seems the most problematic. I suppose we need to interview Serbia and Tripitaka to find out the details.


How many people have actually been charged with that "crime" in Michigan lately?

Looks like a Blue law to me, and pretty much every State has lots and lots of Blue laws. It's not like they are ever enforced.
Haha, in my fairly small town there is a city ordinance that states that it is illegal to drive with your headlights on during the day. Because it scares the horses. :lol:

Needless to say, that law is now and has been for a long time, ignored.

Re: God Bless America!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:19 pm
by mrswdk
Ain't no one gonna stop me turning my headlights on at 1pm. This is Am*rica not North K, woo woo.