is it fun?

[SlayerQC]

dude, gen-K, you are ranked colonel.
Your opponents must have had a LOT OF BAD DICE RUNS attacking you, then?

It must suck big time, I get pissed off when I get a bad dice runs too, but, to get to colonel, you must have had GOOD dice runs as well!
those seem to be forgotten quite easily.


Maybe the "randomiser" has issues, but to be different than before means that something must have been modified lately.
Could be, who knows.

There's always other sites or the REAL risk with REAL dices.

[owenshooter]

i am your bitch, you are right. i am nothing but a whining sack of excrement. if i only had half of your CC knowledge, i wouldn't be stuck only playing escalating games against newbies. perhaps i should buy your CC For Dummies book on amazon.com, for i am truly a dummie. oh woderful and majestic owenshooter, please deem me worthy of your CC tutelage

yeah, i'll keep 'em coming... when i get PM's like this, they kind of make me wonder if you have a moist man-vagina for me...-0

[SlayerQC]

ok well, it seems thos thread should now be transferred to flame wars....

[owenshooter]

ok well, it seems thos thread should now be transferred to flame wars....

ha!!! we are cool with each other!! he is my idol!!!! there is no flaming going on here, just creative quoting!!!-0

[jnd94]

Ah! The dice are out to get me! The government and random.org are working together to piss CCers off!! Tell the tabloids!

[Scott-Land]

I am a big dick... look at me I am trying hard to look smart but I always end up being a big dick

you have something constructive to add in here be my guest, otherwise get the f*ck out and go spam some other similar dick post.



Scott thanks for your opinion however the problem is not expressed by me only.
I am comparing the dice odds in here with other risk games that uses different random generators.
I can assure you the CC generator is the worst when it comes to attack. the defense odds are so great that it is screwing the entire game for any attempt on elimination.

the latest games I won were based on the poor luck of other attackers!
the latest games I lost were all based on failing attempts to eliminate!
most players are expressing the same dice problems... don't you think that for once there might be a serious issue with the generator and not just some bad luck whining?

I couldn't begin to tell you how random they are-- or not. I also don't bother with dice tracker (although it's a great program Dan wrote). I either lose or win when I attack- if I lose I bitch in game chat and move on to the next game.

I also think everyone's allowed to address a concern or a complaint albeit dice or whatnot without being called a whiner. GK's just voicing his frustrations through forums-- I think he should be allowed to do that- no?

[Ditocoaf]

I'm sorry for all the flaming going on in here; I actually want to discuss this with you. Even though this complaint has been brought up countless times, it's still better to explain things and discuss than just say "shut up". If you don't like threads on the subject, just don't read them.

Random.org has the most truly random numbers availible.

getting a 6-6 defense dice 5 times in a streak is Random my ass! this is a flaw in the system! simple and pure!

Actually, that is pretty random. Random isn't the same as fair, or evenly distributed. It means that there's absolutely NO WAY to tell what the hell's coming next. If it was impossible to get 6's four times in a row, that wouldn't be random. Let me give an example: Let's say you roll:
A/D
142/64
231/35
If this were fair, the attacker would start winning some now; so that the rols would be be evenly distributed; so far, the attacker hasn't rolled a 5 or 6, and the def hasn't rolled a 1 or 2. But this isn't fair, it's random, which is why now it's just as likely for the defense to win as it was with the first roll. So sometimes (maybe twice or three times per game), you'll get a horrible losing streak. Sometimes you'll get a crazy-ass winning streak. And most of the time, things will be more even. But since it's random it's not fair at all. I've had 6-6 attacks 5 times in a row before-- do you think that the game is biased towards me?

go try the dice in a risk game called Lux in sillysoft.com, compare and then post your opinion!

I'm going to assume 1 of 2 things are true here:
1) You've played a lot less games on Lux, meaning you haven't played long enough to experience some good or bad streaks.
2) The dice at Lux aren't random at all, but instead are designed to even things out in the short-term.

Which of these strings of 18 numbers are more random? Look at them carefully, think, then read on:
a--152436352461153264
b--563345655423313216
even though 'a' adds up to 3 of each dice, and in fact the first 6 have one of each, and so does the second 6, and the last, 'a' is obviously NOT random. It's certainly more fair than 'b', though. 'b' has far more 5's and 6's than 1's and 2's, and has many more heigher numbers towards the beginning than the end. But it's more random. If you did something like 'b' again, it might have more low numbers. Perhaps it might have high numbers for the first 10 times you did it, low numbers for the next 3, a fairer mix for the next 4, then another set of low numbers. But it's RANDOM.

Now do you understand? I assume you want something like string 'a' above, but that's not truly random, and I in fact believe that would take away from the strategy of the game. You have to be include in your strategy preparation for insanely bad (or good) luck.

[oVo]

The reality of really bad dice is that somebody else is probably enjoying it.
before you set your sails, you gotta drift in the breeze.

[JACKAZZTJM]

General K as in Hey im generally Kool but when i get shitty dice i generally whine like a Kunt and hop on General discussion to cry like a Kock .........Kool Kunt Kock ......KKK i believe we have a racists on our hands!

[gordon1975]

Fortune knocks but once, but misfortune has much more patience.

[TheTrust]

In terms of dice I find them to random enough hun, they favor defense very little in my view lol. I've been in doodle games where I would have 2 armies of 5 set up, and an opponent deploys 3 to get a 6 army and attacks my 5 advancing 4, then goes 4 vs my other 5 and advances 2. Then attacking 2 vs 3 brings it down to 1 vs 1.

This is a regular occurance lol. No good to cry about it no matter how irritated you are, the worst is probably that you know you played the best game you could and when your opponents dice let them do no wrong while crippling you.

[sam08]

i no how u feel becasue half my games are sorta like that, exspecially when defender gets 6s all the TIME! grrrr

[detlef]

In terms of dice I find them to random enough hun, they favor defense very little in my view lol. I've been in doodle games where I would have 2 armies of 5 set up, and an opponent deploys 3 to get a 6 army and attacks my 5 advancing 4, then goes 4 vs my other 5 and advances 2. Then attacking 2 vs 3 brings it down to 1 vs 1.

This is a regular occurance lol. No good to cry about it no matter how irritated you are, the worst is probably that you know you played the best game you could and when your opponents dice let them do no wrong while crippling you.

I vote that all replies in threads bitching about the dice must be made in neon colors.

[codeblue1018]

I am a big dick... look at me I am trying hard to look smart but I always end up being a big dick

you have something constructive to add in here be my guest, otherwise get the f*ck out and go spam some other similar dick post.



Scott thanks for your opinion however the problem is not expressed by me only.
I am comparing the dice odds in here with other risk games that uses different random generators.
I can assure you the CC generator is the worst when it comes to attack. the defense odds are so great that it is screwing the entire game for any attempt on elimination.

the latest games I won were based on the poor luck of other attackers!
the latest games I lost were all based on failing attempts to eliminate!
most players are expressing the same dice problems... don't you think that for once there might be a serious issue with the generator and not just some bad luck whining?

I couldn't begin to tell you how random they are-- or not. I also don't bother with dice tracker (although it's a great program Dan wrote). I either lose or win when I attack- if I lose I bitch in game chat and move on to the next game.

I also think everyone's allowed to address a concern or a complaint albeit dice or whatnot without being called a whiner. GK's just voicing his frustrations through forums-- I think he should be allowed to do that- no?

After reading this thread, I couldn't help from thinking the same thing Scott pointed out. Owen, the man posted a valid question. This isn't flame wars my man. If you aren't interested in the topic, feel free to leave and avoid posting your non-sense. Pure and simple! No one wants to come into a topic outside of flame wars and see this crap. Beat it brother!

Back to the TOPIC; GK, I agree. Frustrating as hell yet we all go through the same bout of bad dice. As far as losing all those armies to try and gain a card in round 1, bad move. Although I can understand why you did it. Keep playing, your luck will turn around, It always does!

[jiminski]

In terms of dice I find them to random enough hun, they favor defense very little in my view lol. I've been in doodle games where I would have 2 armies of 5 set up, and an opponent deploys 3 to get a 6 army and attacks my 5 advancing 4, then goes 4 vs my other 5 and advances 2. Then attacking 2 vs 3 brings it down to 1 vs 1.

This is a regular occurance lol. No good to cry about it no matter how irritated you are, the worst is probably that you know you played the best game you could and when your opponents dice let them do no wrong while crippling you.

contrary to the oppinion of some, pink is not fun.

... bad dice runs also rip every last shred of fun out from ones darkened soul!

[owenshooter]

i love the example everyone gives is of me being called a dick, ha!!! and give me a break, we pm'd each other and know we are joshing with each other. sooo, thanks for playing police, but it isn't needed... and neither is another thread on how bad or how unrandom the dice are! the dude lost 11 armies on his first turn in an escalating game trying to get ONE army. that is just BAD PLAYING, not bad dice! so, as soon as i'm done in the corner you all felt the need to set me in, for some alleged flaming, i'll still be in this thread and still poking him with a stick.-0

[tzor]

I was in an esclating game I moved my armies towards the kill, the total elimination of the ememy would guarentee me 5 cards and enough troops to win the game. The penultimate territory fell, the last territory had 15 units. At that point I had 5 left. I auto attacked and WON!

YES IT'S FUN. ONE GOOD WIN LIKE THAT AND ALL THE BAD ONES ARE FORGOTTEN!

P.S. I missed taking out the final opponent by two units. He had a three card set and took control. Ironically I managed to get another three card set and won the game. Yes that is FUN too.

[oVo]

O M F G !
I agree with jiminski on that one.

[General K]

well lucky you but so far 90 % of the games are being won thanks to someone missing a kill after a total hilarious shit dice roll.

Thanks for the objective reply codeblue, that was noble from you. all is fine with Owen we just had our "fun forum" moment

[jiminski]

O M F G !
I agree with jiminski on that one.

aww come on! i know deep down that you agree with me on most things ... not easy, as i change my opinions as often as my underwear.... i.e. every 3rd full moon after the summer solstice !

[mightyleemoon]

As far as losing 11 on your first turn for a card-- that's clearly a big mistake you made. Playing as much escalating as you do- you know that it's not crucial to get a card on the first turn. It should've never gotten to you losing 11- stopping after losing 3 or 4 is bad enough.

no, no, no... don't try to talk any sense into him. it is obviously not POOR PLAY to lose 11 on your first turn in an escalating game, it is the fault of the dice!!-0

How can losing a dice roll be poor play?

Do you click the little button differently or something? Maybe next time I'll try twiddling my left nut with my right hand while chanting a Dice charm in that classic, monotone-Catholic way. Then losing a roll can't be 'poor play'.

[jiminski]

How can losing a dice roll be poor play?

Do you click the little button differently or something? Maybe next time I'll try twiddling my left nut with my right hand while chanting a Dice charm in that classic, monotone-Catholic way. Then losing a roll can't be 'poor play'.

Because often the difference between winning and losing is knowing when to stop flogging a dead horse....
and on that subject back to bad dice:

[detlef]

After reading this thread, I couldn't help from thinking the same thing Scott pointed out. Owen, the man posted a valid question. This isn't flame wars my man. If you aren't interested in the topic, feel free to leave and avoid posting your non-sense. Pure and simple! No one wants to come into a topic outside of flame wars and see this crap. Beat it brother!

Back to the TOPIC; GK, I agree. Frustrating as hell yet we all go through the same bout of bad dice. As far as losing all those armies to try and gain a card in round 1, bad move. Although I can understand why you did it. Keep playing, your luck will turn around, It always does!

LOL A valid question? Try he thinly veiled yet another bitch session about the dice in the form of a question. Must be a fan of Jeopardy.

I'll take BS forum tactics for 200

"How one might gain sympathy where others get flamed"

"What is pretending that you're not bitching about the dice by asking a "valid" question"

Edit to add. Sorry, I let you off too easy there. A valid freaking question? A valid freaking question? I mean, who the hell is going to answer "yes". Ooh, I love losing 12 guys to none. Nothing makes me happier. In fact, I'm pissed he didn't start a poll because I'm guessing there's a bunch more out there just like me who play this game just praying that they get their ass handed to them by the dice. Don't be an idiot.

If the OP was a cadet or one of the more infamous CC members, you guys would be crapping all over him for starting yet another bitch session about the dice. But no, he's a high ranking player so you're trying to figure out what he had for lunch and when it's coming out.

[detlef]

The typical bullshit replies you get from a complete fucktard like Khazabré!

I asked a simple question: is it fun?... when you get all this shit luck in a streak...

this 6-6 streak happened to me more than 10 games in 1 week. I am starting to believe that the only way to win a game is to actually await for someone missing a kill, since I can't believe anymore in a complete clean elimination thanks to that crippling dice.

In fact, not only is dude a crybaby, he's a freaking liar as well. 10 times in one week he attacked somebody who rolled double 6s five times in a row. Sorry, calling BS on that one.

[General K]

bla bla bla bla bla I hate GK bla bla bla bla

if you consider my thread another "dice whining" then why the hell are you whining about it????
if this thread is meaningless for you why even take the energy and attention to post 2 replies?????

stop your fucking whining about dice threads you sound like a 3$ whore!