I give up playing unknown low ranks!

[killmanic]

Good point, but i still dont like being called a high rank when there are those so much above us.

[Timminz]

Good point, but i still dont like being called a high rank when there are those so much above us.

I can understand that, but in reality, you are among the "best" on CC. You're looking at the "best" of the "best". While you may not be in the top 10, you're still at a rank that the vast majority of players here would consider "high".

Congratulations!

[dustn64]

Get premium and create private games. not too hard.

[Pedronicus]

I never did like Jamie Oliver or Gordon Ramsey.

[General Mayhem]

im a big fckin bummer.

I think we have identified the problem here...

your about as bright a 1 watt light bulb. i was talking in the 3rd person sense. but if you want me to be your bummer id happily oblige. are you a giver or taker. i'll do anything for you mustard.

[General Mayhem]

these are the 3 items you listed


a) stupid play. recruits getting bored and suiciding. Not playing serious and studying the game.
I do not get Stupid players in my open games

b) god damn allying before one single player is double the size or a very reasonable threat to all others.
I do not get Alliances from any players in my open game


c) the archaic scoring system still needs balancing so higher points can play lower point players and viceversa without worrying about groups of lower score players (subconscious or on purpose) ganging the high point. And the same for high point ganging the low point to safeguard point loss.
I have Swords but I do not consider Swords A higher ranked player. But We did revamp the Scoring System. I do lose points and I do win points. And cooks and recruits do play in a lot of my games. So no I do not think thed score systemm needs re vamped

you must be shittin me wac. you never get any stupid players or panic alliances??!! come off it.

[General Mayhem]

b) god damn allying before one single player is double the size or a very reasonable threat to all others.

I have a bit of a problem with this one. Lower ranks aren't the only players making poor alliances. Often higher ranks will band together and kill off the lower ranks just to save points. Just as poor, in my opinion.

yep agreed. hence my point c:

c) the archaic scoring system still needs balancing so higher points can play lower point players and viceversa without worrying about groups of lower score players (subconscious or on purpose) ganging the high point. And the same for high point ganging the low point to safeguard point loss.

[General Mayhem]

ok. so i wont start any publics and if i join any i'll check feedback and previous games. its all my fault for not checking. there. bye.

[kletka]

The scoring system is fine. Extra safe-guarding will just create rating inflation, which is already adamant on the site.

[Lanceyboyuk]

hey ill become lord and master of the universe rank before long!

[wacicha]

b) god damn allying before one single player is double the size or a very reasonable threat to all others.

I have a bit of a problem with this one. Lower ranks aren't the only players making poor alliances. Often higher ranks will band together and kill off the lower ranks just to save points. Just as poor, in my opinion.

yep agreed. hence my point c:

c) the archaic scoring system still needs balancing so higher points can play lower point players and viceversa without worrying about groups of lower score players (subconscious or on purpose) ganging the high point. And the same for high point ganging the low point to safeguard point loss.

I play term mostly and nobody talks about alliances in my games. I know that is hard to believe but it does not happen as far as I know. (secret may happen but of course I am not aware of it)

As for STUPID PLAYERS I get new players who are learning you make mistakes when learning. IAlso there are different play styles just because someone does something I would never consider does not make it Stupid.

Also would like to change my statement that I have Swords to the corrected I have a Sword (& a sheath) MY BAD thanks to the observant one for pointing it out to me.

[Bruceswar]

I am all for new players learning and whatnot. What I am not for is this... Say a new player or low rank joins a game. He makes a terrible move. I tell him he made one and proceeds to me "I play my game, you play yours" What good is that doing you or him? BTW I am in the train a cook society. I play singles games nearly all the time and other players moves can effect your game. As for alliances, I also see players targeting me when I am colonel or a major. Why? They think I am the best so I need to be taken out first. Case in point...

"2008-05-09 06:32:27 - Putrid Pete eliminated Bruceswar from the game in round - 3" Now this was in an 8 man freestyle game in which 5 people were ?'s and we had a cook as well. I was targeted from the get go and people crashed into me all over the map. I did not make any rash moves at all. Needless to say I do not have to play with any of them anymore.

[wacicha]

I am all for new players learning and whatnot. What I am not for is this... Say a new player or low rank joins a game. He makes a terrible move. I tell him he made one and proceeds to me "I play my game, you play yours" What good is that doing you or him? BTW I am in the train a cook society. I play singles games nearly all the time and other players moves can effect your game. As for alliances, I also see players targeting me when I am colonel or a major. Why? They think I am the best so I need to be taken out first. Case in point...

"2008-05-09 06:32:27 - Putrid Pete eliminated Bruceswar from the game in round - 3" Now this was in an 8 man freestyle game in which 5 people were ?'s and we had a cook as well. I was targeted from the get go and people crashed into me all over the map. I did not make any rash moves at all. Needless to say I do not have to play with any of them anymore.

I am a Teacher at the Society of the Cooks. WE do teach a few cooks and new people how to understand. I never tell some one in a game you did a bad move. But I tell themm if they have any questions then ask any of us in the game will help . At end of game I send the Straitgy for beginers That I posted a year or so ago. And I ask if they are interested they can join the school.

[Bruceswar]

I am all for new players learning and whatnot. What I am not for is this... Say a new player or low rank joins a game. He makes a terrible move. I tell him he made one and proceeds to me "I play my game, you play yours" What good is that doing you or him? BTW I am in the train a cook society. I play singles games nearly all the time and other players moves can effect your game. As for alliances, I also see players targeting me when I am colonel or a major. Why? They think I am the best so I need to be taken out first. Case in point...

"2008-05-09 06:32:27 - Putrid Pete eliminated Bruceswar from the game in round - 3" Now this was in an 8 man freestyle game in which 5 people were ?'s and we had a cook as well. I was targeted from the get go and people crashed into me all over the map. I did not make any rash moves at all. Needless to say I do not have to play with any of them anymore.

I am a Teacher at the Society of the Cooks. WE do teach a few cooks and new people how to understand. I never tell some one in a game you did a bad move. But I tell themm if they have any questions then ask any of us in the game will help . At end of game I send the Straitgy for beginers That I posted a year or so ago. And I ask if they are interested they can join the school.

I help many people as well, but lets face it there are those who do not care and who may never care about if they win or lose. Personally I want to win, but some do not care. These are the people I am talking about. They "play for fun" as I have been told. We all play for fun, but also most of like to win. You should know by now some do not seek help, but only to be combative. I guess I must remember most of these types of players are teenagers who think they know it all. C'est La Vie.

[General Mayhem]

shit that is a sword and sheath!

[kletka]

The scoring system is fine. Extra safe-guarding will just create rating inflation, which is already adamant on the site.

Actually, one thing would be useful 4 MINIMUM POINTS when lose a game

The maximum amount of points one loses is 5xnormal, so there should be a minimum of normal/5.... Should I add this to the suggestions forum?

[Timminz]

The scoring system is fine. Extra safe-guarding will just create rating inflation, which is already adamant on the site.

Actually, one thing would be useful 4 MINIMUM POINTS when lose a game

The maximum amount of points one loses is 5xnormal, so there should be a minimum of normal/5.... Should I add this to the suggestions forum?

The 100 point max is already in favour of the higher ranked players. I don't think we need another limit that would only favour the top players.

[kletka]

The 100 point max is already in favour of the higher ranked players. I don't think we need another limit that would only favour the top players.

The 100 point is not to favour big players but to prevent abuse of the system. I have had an idea one day to drop into points below 20, then catch Poo-Maker on 1v1 Bamboo Jack and swap points with him Luckily I have read the scoring rules again.

The same is true with minimum: look at the most prolific deadbeater bejij :
2008-05-10 22:41:04 - benjij loses 0 points
This is how all his games end and this is not right

[Timminz]

The same is true with minimum: look at the most prolific deadbeater bejij :
2008-05-10 22:41:04 - benjij loses 0 points
This is how all his games end and this is not right

The alternative would be to let people go into negative points, and that just won't work.

[kletka]

The alternative would be to let people go into negative points, and that just won't work.

What is your maths grade? If it is above D, tell me what is going to happen if benjij plays 1v1 against alangary under the current tules!

[Timminz]

The alternative would be to let people go into negative points, and that just won't work.

What is your maths grade? If it is above D, tell me what is going to happen if benjij plays 1v1 against alangary under the current tules!

Good point, I hadn't considered that. I still don't think it should be made easier to do.

[BaldAdonis]

The alternative would be to let people go into negative points, and that just won't work.

What is your maths grade? If it is above D, tell me what is going to happen if benjij plays 1v1 against alangary under the current tules!

You can't go below 1, so if someone with 1 loses, they lose nothing. If they win, the player they beat can't go below 1, so they'll win 100 or 1 fewer than all of their opponent's points, whichever is least.