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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby hulmey on Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:16 am

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Ruben Cassar wrote:I don't agree with the name change. I believe in freedom of expression. I mean some people have the nick George Bush...maybe that's offensive for some Iraqi or Arab people on CC? We cannot have double standards. I also don't believe in trying to forget or erase real facts about our history by not talking about the subject matter or by banning the use of some words/signs/symbols.

I find the name inoffensive even though the Nazis threw more bombs on my country than any other place in the world per metre squared and tried to starve my nation to death.


You also admire and love italians even though they also murdered maltese people in WII, so really doesnt say much!


Pointless. You are really very, very biased and not capable of going beyond your biases. I know that you love the British and hate (loathe?) Italians. No need to reiterate that. Bud did you know that just before World War II the British wanted to "donate" Malta to Italy as a friendly gesture? That's how much they cared about Malta...just a colony in their empire which they could dispose of when and how they wanted.

Come on hulmey. Besides even the British did bad things over here when they opened fire on the civilian population. Remember 7th June? The war has passed. It's been over for more than 60 years. Since then many things have changed. Learn to go beyond your biases or else you arguments will never be objective. Or do you mean that you still hate the Germans and the Italians for the events of World War II to this day and always will?


Your going way off subject. But comparing Bush to Hitler is very very wrong. Do the Iraq's hate bush, some probably! Did Bush commit genocide with the rest of the world?

Or was it Saddam Hussain and his dicatorship that gassed his only population?

PS, im very anti Bush, but to compare even remotely with a man like Hitler is utterly shameful!
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby hulmey on Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:19 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:
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Ruben Cassar wrote:I don't agree with the name change. I believe in freedom of expression. I mean some people have the nick George Bush...maybe that's offensive for some Iraqi or Arab people on CC? We cannot have double standards. I also don't believe in trying to forget or erase real facts about our history by not talking about the subject matter or by banning the use of some words/signs/symbols.

I find the name inoffensive even though the Nazis threw more bombs on my country than any other place in the world per metre squared and tried to starve my nation to death.


You also admire and love italians even though they also murdered maltese people in WII, so really doesnt say much!


Pointless. You are really very, very biased and not capable of going beyond your biases. I know that you love the British and hate (loathe?) Italians. No need to reiterate that. Bud did you know that just before World War II the British wanted to "donate" Malta to Italy as a friendly gesture? That's how much they cared about Malta...just a colony in their empire which they could dispose of when and how they wanted.

Come on hulmey. Besides even the British did bad things over here when they opened fire on the civilian population. Remember 7th June? The war has passed. It's been over for more than 60 years. Since then many things have changed. Learn to go beyond your biases or else you arguments will never be objective. Or do you mean that you still hate the Germans and the Italians for the events of World War II to this day and always will?


Maltese politcal parties have also committed great sin but we wont even go there! However, im quite sure the italian and german bombs that rained down on Malta killed alot more!!! That and the italians blocking malta so food and resources couldnt enter the harbour!
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby Frop on Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:39 am

You think by putting up something in bold instead of providing proper argumentation makes it a valid point? 'We won't even go there'? Good thing you're 'quite sure' then!
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby hulmey on Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:47 am

Frop wrote:You think by putting up something in bold instead of providing proper argumentation makes it a valid point? 'We won't even go there'? Good thing you're 'quite sure' then!


you got nothing better to say froppy? I dont need to provide augmentation coz Ruben knows what im referring to. Its a matter about our country which im quite sure you would not understand!
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby Frop on Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:56 am

hulmey wrote:you got nothing better to say froppy? I dont need to provide augmentation coz Ruben knows what im referring to. Its a matter about our country which im quite sure you would not understand!

hulmey wrote:u want something? you always follow me around the forums with your stupid comments. You wont understand what im reffering to but ruben will!!

Stop proving to be an idoit , time and time again #-o

You're quite sure again, even though WWII is my favourite period and nearly all information regarding this subject is widely available (yes, it's true, people outside of Britain read books!).

I don't see why you would want to call me an idoit (sic) instead of providing some augmentation (sic), but if Ruben understands what you're reffering to (sic), all must be dandy! Carry on, soldier.
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby hulmey on Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:01 am

Frop wrote:
hulmey wrote:you got nothing better to say froppy? I dont need to provide augmentation coz Ruben knows what im referring to. Its a matter about our country which im quite sure you would not understand!

hulmey wrote:u want something? you always follow me around the forums with your stupid comments. You wont understand what im reffering to but ruben will!!

Stop proving to be an idoit , time and time again #-o

You're quite sure again, even though WWII is my favourite period and nearly all information regarding this subject is widely available (yes, it's true, people outside of Britain read books!).

I don't see why you would want to call me an idoit (sic) instead of providing some augmentation (sic), but if Ruben understands what you're reffering to (sic), all must be dandy! Carry on, soldier.


whats written in bold has nothing to do with WII Professor Frop. Get over yourself and stop being a complete cock!
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby Ruben Cassar on Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:20 am

hulmey wrote:Maltese politcal parties have also committed great sin but we wont even go there! However, im quite sure the italian and german bombs that rained down on Malta killed alot more!!! That and the italians blocking malta so food and resources couldnt enter the harbour!


Actually the Italians did not block Maltese ports. It was the Germans.

My grand grandmother was killed during a German air raid in fact.

Even during the war there was a difference between the way the Italians and Germans operated. My father lived during the war and he told many things first hand about his experience.

I'll tell you a little story (off topic). Some Maltese were playing football with some Italian prisoners. All of a sudden a German Stuka popped up and he actually opened fire on all of them! They were not a target but he opened fire just the same. My father who was watching the game was lucky not to get hit.

He also tells me stories of how the Italians were much different from the Germans and they regarded the Maltese people as brothers. In fact he says that most Italian bombers used to drop their load on fields and not on buildings so as not to kill innocent civilians. Something the Germans did not do of course.

P.S. My father is very pro-British so don't think he's saying these things because he likes Italians! ;)
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby millertime13 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:52 am

Sorry to interrupt, HG...has the user name changed? does he still receive messages from his old name?
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby Chariot of Fire on Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:15 pm

My name has been changed. Hermann is no more. Long may the chariot ride :)
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby hulmey on Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:12 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:My name has been changed. Hermann is no more. Long may the chariot ride :)


Well done my friend =D> =D> =D> =D>
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby gloryordeath on Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:15 pm

the best of luck with your new identity. case closed
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby owenshooter on Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:49 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:My name has been changed. Hermann is no more. Long may the chariot ride :)

i still think my contest thread to rename you could have been one of the greatest threads of all time... alas, you just went ahead and picked one...-0
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby kletka on Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:54 am

The king is dead, long live the king ;) ;) ;)

And now :arrow:
mandalorian2298 wrote: His strategic short-sightedness and plain ol' stupidity has lost the Battle of Britain (and maybe the whole WWII) for the Axis. Because of this, all the people on CC who are still sad because Nazis hadn't won the the WWII (get over it already you girlyman :P ), hate Goering and find it insulting that someone had chosen "Hermann Goering" as his nick. :idea:


What a stupid nonsense is this :idea: Battle of Britain was f****ed strategically, not tactically. There was no way Germany could have won the battle of Britain just by areal bombardments without nuclear weapons. The only way was to land the troops, which in turn required strong navy, not just a bunch of krietzmarines :mrgreen: Germany was working on improving its navy but it never got even remotely close to british.

Finally, even with a successful landing there was a comrade Stalin, waiting in the bushes to liberate Europe =P~ A major landing in Britain would be suicide in this situation...
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby MeDeFe on Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:28 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:My name has been changed. Hermann is no more. Long may the chariot ride :)

Why not the name you said you wanted to use originally? Erwin Rommel, wasn't it?
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby Gypsys Kiss on Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:51 am

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Chariot of Fire wrote:My name has been changed. Hermann is no more. Long may the chariot ride :)

Why not the name you said you wanted to use originally? Erwin Rommel, wasn't it?


Because some small minded tosspot would probably complain about that aswell. :roll:

Speaking of small minded tosspots, I really must complain about your new name.

When I saw Nigel Havers clip a hurdle and spill a drop of champagne, I new he wasnt going to win a gold medal. It left me bereft for ages and now you bring all those feelings back.

Damn you Herm.....ummmmm Chariot.
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby oVo on Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:18 pm

The name didn't bug me as he never had bad intentions while creating it. I didn't even realize it was still an issue, so I suppose the change is good and now we can all sleep better. Well everyone except for Gypsys Kiss, but that's a small price to pay for some quality serenity.

that other topic that was raised...
kletka wrote:What a stupid nonsense is this :idea: Battle of Britain was f****ed strategically, not tactically. There was no way Germany could have won the battle of Britain just by areal bombardments without nuclear weapons. The only way was to land the troops, which in turn required strong navy, not just a bunch of krietzmarines :mrgreen: Germany was working on improving its navy but it never got even remotely close to british.

Finally, even with a successful landing there was a comrade Stalin, waiting in the bushes to liberate Europe =P~ A major landing in Britain would be suicide in this situation...


The Luftwaffe had the Brits seriously outnumbered in the air and attrition would have allowed them to dominate from the sky and eventually bomb the English into oblivion or submission with little resistance. But one new piece of primitive technology was totally underestimated by the Germans who only bothered knocking out the radar towers along the east coast once. It was radar's ability to detect German planes crossing the English Channel which allowed the RAF to scramble all available fighters to intercept and give the English their only chance to holding off the Germans. That might qualify as a strategic & tactical combo, but regardless of your perception... it was a huge blunder.

Comrade Stalin could only provide a distraction to the Nazi high command as the Battle of Britian continued, because the German armies had invaded and moved deep into Russia.
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby kletka on Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:35 am

oVo wrote: The Luftwaffe had the Brits seriously outnumbered in the air and attrition would have allowed them to dominate from the sky and eventually bomb the English into oblivion or submission with little resistance. But one new piece of primitive technology was totally underestimated by the Germans who only bothered knocking out the radar towers along the east coast once. It was radar's ability to detect German planes crossing the English Channel which allowed the RAF to scramble all available fighters to intercept and give the English their only chance to holding off the Germans. That might qualify as a strategic & tactical combo, but regardless of your perception... it was a huge blunder.

Comrade Stalin could only provide a distraction to the Nazi high command as the Battle of Britiahopen continued, because the German armies had invaded and moved deep into Russia.


Mate, you are wrong :( hopelessly wrong. I repeat that it was impossible to bomb a large nation into oblivion. The precision of carpet bombing would make any serious damage to the targets uneconomical. Look at the recent war in Serbia. The mighty US was pouring precision weapons but the air-defense capability was still there in a month. Targeting radar in the Battle of Britain would help tactically but not strategically. British would have just rebuilt them. Remember fighter aircraft had at most 20 minutes to operate after crossing the channel, which made bombers on both sides to operate essentially without cover.

I dont think that even nazis seriously thought about bombing into oblivion but rather submission, i.e. breaking nation's will to fight, as happened in Serbia in 1999. And they were essentially out of other options :!:

Finally, by the time Germany moved deep into Russia (1941), the battle of Britain (1939-1940) was over.
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby hulmey on Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:49 am

kletka wrote:
oVo wrote: The Luftwaffe had the Brits seriously outnumbered in the air and attrition would have allowed them to dominate from the sky and eventually bomb the English into oblivion or submission with little resistance. But one new piece of primitive technology was totally underestimated by the Germans who only bothered knocking out the radar towers along the east coast once. It was radar's ability to detect German planes crossing the English Channel which allowed the RAF to scramble all available fighters to intercept and give the English their only chance to holding off the Germans. That might qualify as a strategic & tactical combo, but regardless of your perception... it was a huge blunder.

Comrade Stalin could only provide a distraction to the Nazi high command as the Battle of Britiahopen continued, because the German armies had invaded and moved deep into Russia.


Mate, you are wrong :( hopelessly wrong. I repeat that it was impossible to bomb a large nation into oblivion. The precision of carpet bombing would make any serious damage to the targets uneconomical. Look at the recent war in Serbia. The mighty US was pouring precision weapons but the air-defense capability was still there in a month. Targeting radar in the Battle of Britain would help tactically but not strategically. British would have just rebuilt them. Remember fighter aircraft had at most 20 minutes to operate after crossing the channel, which made bombers on both sides to operate essentially without cover.

I dont think that even nazis seriously thought about bombing into oblivion but rather submission, i.e. breaking nation's will to fight, as happened in Serbia in 1999. And they were essentially out of other options :!:

Finally, by the time Germany moved deep into Russia (1941), the battle of Britain (1939-1940) was over.


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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby what,me worry? on Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:50 pm

wait so if someone complains about someones name they can get it changed?

I will buy someone a free membership if i can complain about your name and you get it changed to Imabitch or ho'sonthefloor or ilovemen or i dont know ill think of some good ones. any takers?
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby HannibalSmith on Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:37 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:My name has been changed. Hermann is no more. Long may the chariot ride :)


*cues vangelis*
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby MeDeFe on Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:37 pm

HannibalSmith wrote:
Chariot of Fire wrote:My name has been changed. Hermann is no more. Long may the chariot ride :)

*cues vangelis*

Behold!
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby HannibalSmith on Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:42 pm

MeDeFe wrote:
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Chariot of Fire wrote:My name has been changed. Hermann is no more. Long may the chariot ride :)

*cues vangelis*

Behold!


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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby gloryordeath on Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:35 pm

Why are people still posting here? He changed it it's all over nothing to see here move along...move along...
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby owenshooter on Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:02 am

gloryordeath wrote:Why are people still posting here? He changed it it's all over nothing to see here move along...move along...

huh? what? did you say something? anyway, nice name change, but i still think he should have had a contest... that would have been cool.-0
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Re: user named HermannGoering

Postby HannibalSmith on Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:40 pm

owenshooter wrote:
gloryordeath wrote:Why are people still posting here? He changed it it's all over nothing to see here move along...move along...

huh? what? did you say something? anyway, nice name change, but i still think he should have had a contest... that would have been cool.-0


did u already have a name in mind? =)
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