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Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby xroads on Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:25 am

If you are not an officer & beat a higher up, why do they get pissy?


I have played 3 6 player Gazala games with Waynemgough.

Finally win one of them & he reams me on the feedback even though not one word was said in game chat. Got a 0 on fair play & a 2 on attitude.

If you beat mystique you get put on foe list so you cant join his games anymore.
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby Fruitcake on Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:37 am

0 stars does not detract from your total, so no worries there.

Are you sure you were playing mystique? You sure it was really him? Perish the thought you may have actually beaten:

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As to the question regarding foe lists. Just wait until you find others joining you in team games who actually have you on their foe list!!! Meaning, they are happy to join you but not play you!!! When I find this out I generally send them a pm returning the compliment and asking them to take time out so they can go and search for a long hard rod to put where their backbone should be.

If they get 'pissy' just relax....and stick them on your foe list.
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby detlef on Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:49 am

xroads wrote:If you are not an officer & beat a higher up, why do they get pissy?


I have played 3 6 player Gazala games with Waynemgough.

Finally win one of them & he reams me on the feedback even though not one word was said in game chat. Got a 0 on fair play & a 2 on attitude.

If you beat mystique you get put on foe list so you cant join his games anymore.

Well, I'm not going to argue with your very, very thorough data consisting of two players (the second of which hasn't actually done to you what you're alleging he does since you're currently playing in the only game you've played against him) as being an authoritive on the mind of an officer.

Well, actually, I guess I am. Now shoo.
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby xroads on Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:59 am

My game with Mystique- A friend tried joining with me & was denied. He played 1 game with him, won & was put on foe list.

As for me shooing away. I was a colonel a few weeks ago. The deciding I wanted those cool shiney medals I started playing games on different maps on different styles then I was used to & have been getting my ass handed to me
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby detlef on Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:05 am

xroads wrote:My game with Mystique- A friend tried joining with me & was denied. He played 1 game with him, won & was put on foe list.

As for me shooing away. I was a colonel a few weeks ago. The deciding I wanted those cool shiney medals I started playing games on different maps on different styles then I was used to & have been getting my ass handed to me

I'm not telling you to shoo because you're not an officer. I'm telling you to shoo because you've started a silly thread. You want to call out some player for giving you bad ratings, join the freaking club. Or is this simply a way to post a new thread about the same damned thing? That being, pissing and moaning about the ratings.

Regardless, either way, you do need to shoo.
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby liamo6969 on Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:10 am

ever think they may be pissed cause dey lose hell loads of points when dey lose and half the people here are green eyed points hungry monsters??

some people forget the game is risk, not only a big points competition that they can boast about to their mates!

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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby lord voldemort on Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:19 am

its annoying cause half the time when officers + lose its to bad dice or sheer dumb luck...and then it costs us 50 ish points...
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby xroads on Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:23 am

lord voldemort wrote:its annoying cause half the time when officers + lose its to bad dice or sheer dumb luck...and then it costs us 50 ish points...


Yep I have been there done that. Lost 600 points in 2 weeks.

But I dont leave bad ratings or put them on my foe list just cause I got my clock cleaned.

I guess I should ask, why start public games if you arent willing to put up the points?
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby AAFitz on Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:25 am

So how many high ranks are you talking about here... which ones are pissy and which arent?... or is this just a general statement that makes it easier to complain. Or... are you just being pissy... :D
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby lord voldemort on Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:28 am

though wat fitz said is true though...most of us dont give a toss...i only have idiots from the forums, known multis and massive wankers on my foes list...if someone beats me..and i mean actually beats me....ill be first in line to say gg
...if they get lucky with dice and drop then have the guts to say well you tried...then ill get pissy with them
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby liamo6969 on Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:31 am

AAFitz wrote:So how many high ranks are you talking about here... which ones are pissy and which arent?... or is this just a general statement that makes it easier to complain. Or... are you just being pissy... :D


lol, not talkin specifics, just now you can lose a lot of points to a cook, even i do! 30+ last time(only time) but stil i think its part of the game and enjoy it. i just want to get revenge by challenging people to rematches where i win. points are not the end all of cq, they are nice but ............

its nicer to play and try forget about them and just play to feal good!

anyone agree with that?
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby xroads on Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:34 am

liamo6969 wrote:
AAFitz wrote:So how many high ranks are you talking about here... which ones are pissy and which arent?... or is this just a general statement that makes it easier to complain. Or... are you just being pissy... :D


lol, not talkin specifics, just now you can lose a lot of points to a cook, even i do! 30+ last time(only time) but stil i think its part of the game and enjoy it. i just want to get revenge by challenging people to rematches where i win. points are not the end all of cq, they are nice but ............

its nicer to play and try forget about them and just play to feal good!

anyone agree with that?



I agree & that is why I dont worry about starting public games.

And I should not have grouped all higher ranked players together. I have played a ton of games & most are good to play with.

Like anything else a few bad similar experiences makes you start to prejudice them all.
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby PLAYER57832 on Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:58 pm

liamo6969 wrote:
AAFitz wrote:So how many high ranks are you talking about here... which ones are pissy and which arent?... or is this just a general statement that makes it easier to complain. Or... are you just being pissy... :D


lol, not talkin specifics, just now you can lose a lot of points to a cook, even i do! 30+ last time(only time) but stil i think its part of the game and enjoy it. i just want to get revenge by challenging people to rematches where i win. points are not the end all of cq, they are nice but ............

its nicer to play and try forget about them and just play to feal good!

anyone agree with that?

I agree that you have jerks who are high ranked, jerks who are cooks ... You cannot change em, so yes, I avoid them.

And anyone who thinks they "automatically" ought to win because they are a few rungs up in the rankings is just that -- a jerk. So is anyone who constantly complains about the "bad dice" and whines that they are ready to "quit CC" because of it. Know what? With all respect to Lack ... good riddance!
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby KoE_Sirius on Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:09 pm

I agree with the last guy..People just get upset when they lose.Rank has very little to do with it.
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby Blitzaholic on Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:14 pm

KoE_Sirius wrote:I agree with the last guy..People just get upset when they lose.Rank has very little to do with it.



agreed, accept for the higher ranks, or some of them may get more pissy than others because generally they are much more competitive and hate losing, they strive to be the very best they can be i'd imagine.

kinda like sports, there are tons of great athletes and some better than others, cause the ones that are better than others usually practice much later and more, they put tons of time and effort into it, more than the average pro athlete, and same in this game or any game. some play for fun, some play for being the best, so play to relax, so play of boredom, some to socializ, some a combination of things, etc, bla bla bla


for example: i mean peyton manning studies more game film then most coaches in the nfl, it why he is the player he is.
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby Iron Butterfly on Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:35 pm

lord voldemort wrote:its annoying cause half the time when officers + lose its to bad dice or sheer dumb luck...and then it costs us 50 ish points...


The other half of the time is when they make a stupid move or a combination of the three? Your point being? Being an officer doesnt make one more intelligent or lucky then a stripe. You just lose more points. Big Whoop!

When officers were stripes im sure they reveled in the points they gained from officers. Its the circle of life of CC.

Im here to play not protect some meaningless tripe that means nothing to anyone except to folks who play this game, which is meaningless in the grand scheme anyways.
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby wrestler1ump on Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:39 pm

I tried to make a similar point about high ranked players being not-so-nice people, but I was piled on for it. Obviously I am not the only one who finds high rankers to have a certain arrogance about them, so my point in the first place was obviously legit. I don't find a lot of sub 1000 players scream and swear when they don't win a game.
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby lord voldemort on Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:41 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:its annoying cause half the time when officers + lose its to bad dice or sheer dumb luck...and then it costs us 50 ish points...


The other half of the time is when they make a stupid move or a combination of the three? Your point being? Being an officer doesnt make one more intelligent or lucky then a stripe. You just lose more points. Big Whoop!

When officers were stripes im sure they reveled in the points they gained from officers. Its the circle of life of CC.

Im here to play not protect some meaningless tripe that means nothing to anyone except to folks who play this game, which is meaningless in the grand scheme anyways.

no but it generally makes them better at this game though...
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby AAFitz on Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:45 pm

Rank or no rank, pissy people are pissy. If you look through the complaints about everything on this site, youll find the large proportion will be not higher ranks. There are certainly those high ranks that excel at pissy, but I suspect many more complain just as much without their crown or star.

The problem with xroads here, is that hes calling out a whole group because some guy complained that he lost. Thats as pissy as it gets.
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby Scott-Land on Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:47 pm

Fruitcake wrote:0 stars does not detract from your total, so no worries there.

Are you sure you were playing mystique? You sure it was really him? Perish the thought you may have actually beaten:

Arcades
Daventry
Destroyer69
Etoh
hahaha4hahaha
HorrorShow
Kabuki
Lingo
ok51513

As to the question regarding foe lists. Just wait until you find others joining you in team games who actually have you on their foe list!!! Meaning, they are happy to join you but not play you!!! When I find this out I generally send them a pm returning the compliment and asking them to take time out so they can go and search for a long hard rod to put where their backbone should be.

If they get 'pissy' just relax....and stick them on your foe list.


Was hahaha3hahaha ran with those accounts as well ? Not implying anything just wondering because of the similarity in names.
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby Fruitcake on Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:47 pm

When I first saw this thread (while having an early morning pot of Tea, cleaning my reading specs and letting my eyesight get adjusted) I almost thought I had been missing out on some special bonus given out by lack...I truly believed it read
"Why is it that higher ranks get pussy when they are beat"

For a split second I was wondering how many games I could lose at once!

Just thought I would share this with you, not wanting to go off topic or anything.
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby Fruitcake on Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:50 pm

Scott-Land wrote:
Fruitcake wrote:0 stars does not detract from your total, so no worries there.

Are you sure you were playing mystique? You sure it was really him? Perish the thought you may have actually beaten:

Arcades
Daventry
Destroyer69
Etoh
hahaha4hahaha
HorrorShow
Kabuki
Lingo
ok51513

As to the question regarding foe lists. Just wait until you find others joining you in team games who actually have you on their foe list!!! Meaning, they are happy to join you but not play you!!! When I find this out I generally send them a pm returning the compliment and asking them to take time out so they can go and search for a long hard rod to put where their backbone should be.

If they get 'pissy' just relax....and stick them on your foe list.


Was hahaha3hahaha ran with those accounts as well ? Not implying anything just wondering because of the similarity in names.


I did wonder, but far be it for me to point any fingers. I'm pretty sure that super sleuth Frop would have already checked that out.
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby detlef on Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:50 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:its annoying cause half the time when officers + lose its to bad dice or sheer dumb luck...and then it costs us 50 ish points...


The other half of the time is when they make a stupid move or a combination of the three? Your point being? Being an officer doesnt make one more intelligent or lucky then a stripe. You just lose more points. Big Whoop!

When officers were stripes im sure they reveled in the points they gained from officers. Its the circle of life of CC.

Im here to play not protect some meaningless tripe that means nothing to anyone except to folks who play this game, which is meaningless in the grand scheme anyways.

This is going to come off as elitist but, so be it. While I understand that some people of high rank are there because they specialize in very specific formats that they've mastered or feast upon noobs in team games, that doesn't change the fact that high ranking players tend to be better. Hell, even the ones who take advantage of the short cuts I mentioned are at least better at the formats that they choose or it wouldn't work.

Those with high ranks are hardly flawless but I can assure you, as somebody who plays with both high ranking and low ranking players, those with the lower ranks are far more inclined to either make really bad moves or, at very least, lack the vision to make particularly good ones. Often times it's nothing hugely obvious like trying to take out a player you have no realistic chance of getting or exposing a buried large army. It's usually something much smaller but systemic, like routinely doing the dirty work of the stronger players or routinely taking spots that they can't hold rather than saving up and striking at a point when they're likely to succeed.

In general, I don't see higher ranking players do this sort of thing and I can almost count on lower ranking players committing one or more of these. So much so that I'm pleasantly surprised when they don't. This is not because of some preconceived notion, this is merely from playing. Obviously, everyone was ranked low at some point. Some, perhaps, were always as good as they are now and just needed to earn the points. However, I'm guessing that number isn't very big. I played enough risk and possess the aptitude to be good at this sort of game, but, nothing like playing a bunch of games on a bunch of maps against a bunch of players, nearly all of whom are better than the siblings that you used to beat up on back in the day to hone your skills. I know for a fact that I'm a better player now than I was when I joined CC and it's not like I was all that shabby starting out.

So, I hate to break it to you, but you're wrong. Higher ranked players are, in fact, generally better. There's no legitimate argument to the contrary. Certainly there are exceptions on both sides of the fence but they are just that, exceptions.

Now, this doesn't mean that they should be pissy when they lose. Of course, I also think that's BS as well, at least in terms of a sweeping generalization.
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby Iron Butterfly on Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:57 pm

experience makes one "hopefully" better.

Ive played some pretty stupid officers and some really smart cooks strategy wise. I have considered my self one of those smart cooks, that has had bad dice and luck compared to others Ive played.
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Re: Why is it that higher ranks get pissy when they are beat

Postby detlef on Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:59 pm

wrestler1ump wrote:I tried to make a similar point about high ranked players being not-so-nice people, but I was piled on for it. Obviously I am not the only one who finds high rankers to have a certain arrogance about them, so my point in the first place was obviously legit. I don't find a lot of sub 1000 players scream and swear when they don't win a game.

You were piled on because it's a baseless argument. Whenever you guys make this stupid claim, you always point to a few people who generally seem like a-holes anyway and use that as your evidence.

Seriously, what is the point?

What you're failing to take into account, is the number of people who claim that high ranking players are jerks because they're completely oblivious to the fact that they completely f'ed up in game play and handed victory to someone else.

About half the time when somebody comes here complaining about some rude comments, you go into the game log and realize that anyone but Mother Theresa would have flipped out on them as well.

Sorry to say wrestler, but I can specifically recall this sort of thing with you. You make claims like this, then we look into your games and realize that you basically have yourself to blame. Then we say as much and you accuse us of flaming you in the GD. However, all we're doing is pointing out some rather inconvenient facts. Sorry dude, but that's the truth.
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