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CC and I (first 12 months) or is it the end?

Postby Hrvat on Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:17 am

this is 1st time I start a new general disc. topic.
I have joined Premium Mem. almost 1 year ago. (2007-07-25, 20:17:22 according to lack)

I used to play 30+ games at any time.... now, less than 10. Have 5 going at the moment..
CC is the only site I have Premium for.
Why I joined:

20%[ game of Risk (I am not terribly fond of the game, but I'll play it for few minutes during lunch or tea)
15% Forum browsing, asking or answering questions (This is one of the very few Game Sites where opposing view is tolerated in the Forum-sometimes.)
10% huge and ever-growing Map selection. (I only play few World2.1, N.America, 8Thoughts, Classic of course.... have no time for Doodle, never will play ConquerMan..)
10% Tournaments play (Have won one Tournament, was fun for a while.... I am still in finals in one Tournament... but, that is not really my cup of tea)
45% ability to comment on the game, ability to leave comments for the players ( I do not know if I have ever left a -ve... I could be wrong... I preferred to comment on positive aspects of my opponents game (win or lose). Reading comments left by others was always interesting and helpful, some were funny, some cheeky, some downright stupid...

Now, I can not comment on the game.
Looking at a row of star's I find boring, annoying, and not helpful at all...
I am told that in rating 3 is the way to go??? Leaving all 5's is considered an abuse of the system. So, now I do not rate anyone. Sorry, players, had couple enjoyable games, would like to leave a +ve...
Medals,.... do not really care how many I have or do not have, how many Joe has or Peter does not have

So now what do I have left??

20% game of Risk (there are few other sites that have better (for me) games than Risk eg., Navyfield (no stupid Dice) or KDice (if I must have my Dice Fix)
15% forum browsing is most likely the ONLY thing that I would miss from CC (from HMV Wicked, to all the Noobs that I have fun talking to)
10% map selection, new maps do not interest me ( have tried and odd one now and then, but no thanks)
0% Tournaments Play. Nor really interested any more.. take for ever...
0% ability to comment on the game - can not comment on the games played any more, rating has no substance, no real meaning...

I gave someone a 2 & 3Star rating recently... Went over the game today, and I have NO Idea why I gave 3stars... And please, do not tell me I should always give 3's. That argument sucks. If I can not work out what my ratings mean... LOL... How can anyone else??
Do not even wish to begin to make a comment on "it will all average out" :roll:

When I joined I had 100% interest in CC
Now, maybe 45%.. More than half is gone...


Goodbye feedback...
I will not be renewing my membership.
Last edited by Hrvat on Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:24 am, edited 1 time in total.
I'll never pay for another Premium on ConquerClub.
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Re: CC and I (first 12 months) or is it the end?

Postby Slom on Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:21 am

IMO ratings means absolutely nothing now and are a whole lot less personable and bad players get off easy.
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Re: CC and I (first 12 months) or is it the end?

Postby hulmey on Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:29 am

Hrvat wrote:this is 1st time I start a new general disc. topic.
I have joined Premium Mem. almost 1 year ago. (2007-07-25, 20:17:22 according to lack)

I used to play 30+ games at any time.... now, less than 10. Have 5 going at the moment..
CC is the only site I have Premium for.
Why I joined:

20%[ game of Risk (I am not terribly fond of the game, but I'll play it for few minutes during lunch or tea)
15% Forum browsing, asking or answering questions (This is one of the very few Game Sites where opposing view is tolerated in the Forum-sometimes.)
10% huge and ever-growing Map selection. (I only play few World2.1, N.America, 8Thoughts, Classic of course.... have no time for Doodle, never will play ConquerMan..)
10% Tournaments play (Have won one Tournament, was fun for a while.... I am still in finals in one Tournament... but, that is not really my cup of tea)
45% ability to comment on the game, ability to leave comments for the players ( I do not know if I have ever left a -ve... I could be wrong... I preferred to comment on positive aspects of my opponents game (win or lose). Reading comments left by others was always interesting and helpful, some were funny, some cheeky, some downright stupid...

Now, I can not comment on the game.
Looking at a row of star's I find boring, annoying, and not helpful at all...
I am told that in rating 3 is the way to go??? Leaving all 5's is considered an abuse of the system. So, now I do not rate anyone. Sorry, players, had couple enjoyable games, would like to leave a +ve...
Medals,.... do not really care how many I have or do not have, how many Joe has or Peter does not have

So now what do I have left??

20% game of Risk (there are few other sites that have better (for me) games than Risk eg., Navyfield (no stupid Dice) or KDice (if I must have my Dice Fix)
15% forum browsing is most likely the ONLY thing that I would miss from CC (from HMV Wicked, to all the Noobs that I have fun talking to)
10% map selection, new maps do not interest me ( have tried and odd one now and then, but no thanks)
0% Tournaments Play. Nor really interested any more.. take for ever...
0% ability to comment on the game - can not comment on the games played any more, rating has no substance, no real meaning...

I gave someone a 2 & 3Star rating recently... Went over the game today, and I have NO Idea why I gave 3stars... And please, do not tell me I should always give 3's. That argument sucks. If I can not work out what my ratings mean... LOL... How can anyone else??
Do not even wish to begin to make a comment on "it will all average out" :roll:

When I joined I had 100% interest in CC
Now, maybe 45%.. More than half is gone...


Goodbye feedback...
I will not be renewing my membership.


were i bolded, i feel the same lol
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Re: CC and I (first 12 months) or is it the end?

Postby steve monkey on Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:24 am

so Hrvat, you enjoy giving feedback more than twice as much than actually playing the game? :roll:
Do you not feel you have this slightly backwards?
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Re: CC and I (first 12 months) or is it the end?

Postby detlef on Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:25 am

You'll get no argument from me about how bad the ratings system is. It is useless and arbitrary. However, I find something very, very, puzzling in your break down.

Are you serious that the single most important thing to you, more than twice as important as any other single thing about why you played CC including the actual game play itself and nearly as important as all the other reasons combined, was the fact that you got to leave detailed critiques (be they good or bad) on your opponents? That really, really seems quite odd.

So, in essence, playing the games themselves was just a means to an end, that end being you got to make comments about other players? I've got to think that there's some website that allows you to just make comments about people without the bother of having to waste your time playing some silly game before you do.

Honestly, if I had to guess, I'd say you were exaggerating how important the rating system is to you for effect. After all, it's not like the old system was amazing or anything. At least, not so amazing that it would be worth enduring a game that you claim you don't really enjoy all that much to get to.

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Re: CC and I (first 12 months) or is it the end?

Postby Hrvat on Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:32 pm

detlef wrote:Are you serious that the single most important thing to you, more than twice as important as any other single thing about why you played CC including the actual game play itself and nearly as important as all the other reasons combined, was the fact that you got to leave detailed critiques (be they good or bad) on your opponents? That really, really seems quite odd.


Agreed. =D>
Maybe I did not express myself well enough. My original post was all about: why I paid money to get a Premium.
Strangely enough, it was the now obsolete feedback that was main reason why I have joined as a Premium. Once I had Premium I tried different maps, most of which I did not liked...etc..

Anyway, thank you all for your comments. Appreciated.
Thanks to all the people who took the trouble to PM me abut this... (You know who you are... :lol: ... Ouch... hehehe) Again, comments appreciated.

Have 5 games left, which I will try and finish fairly (I intend to win... LOL)
Have pulled out of Tournament Finals that was still in... Sorry Amazzony... :cry:
Have met many interesting people here in the past year... ran into some idiots as well... not to mention an overzealous Mod's (Hey Cicero, still removing my anti-feedback posts?) :evil: :twisted:

So, it is time to stop rumbling, grumbling, mumbling...

This is my last post. :!:

It has been fun...
Thank you.
=D>

PS.
I might pop in now and then...
Who knows, I might even buy Premium later.... much.... much later... maybe when Yahoo buys this Site and we get a decent Management.... LOL (did not really mean that... hmm.. or did I?? :? )
I'll never pay for another Premium on ConquerClub.
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Re: CC and I (first 12 months) or is it the end?

Postby BadMoonRising on Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:16 pm

Can I have your armies?
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Re: CC and I (first 12 months) or is it the end?

Postby bob72 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:35 am

Hrvat wrote:this is 1st time I start a new general disc. topic.
I have joined Premium Mem. almost 1 year ago. (2007-07-25, 20:17:22 according to lack)

I used to play 30+ games at any time.... now, less than 10. Have 5 going at the moment..
CC is the only site I have Premium for.
Why I joined:

20%[ game of Risk (I am not terribly fond of the game, but I'll play it for few minutes during lunch or tea)
15% Forum browsing, asking or answering questions (This is one of the very few Game Sites where opposing view is tolerated in the Forum-sometimes.)
10% huge and ever-growing Map selection. (I only play few World2.1, N.America, 8Thoughts, Classic of course.... have no time for Doodle, never will play ConquerMan..)
10% Tournaments play (Have won one Tournament, was fun for a while.... I am still in finals in one Tournament... but, that is not really my cup of tea)
45% ability to comment on the game, ability to leave comments for the players ( I do not know if I have ever left a -ve... I could be wrong... I preferred to comment on positive aspects of my opponents game (win or lose). Reading comments left by others was always interesting and helpful, some were funny, some cheeky, some downright stupid...

Now, I can not comment on the game.
Looking at a row of star's I find boring, annoying, and not helpful at all...
I am told that in rating 3 is the way to go??? Leaving all 5's is considered an abuse of the system. So, now I do not rate anyone. Sorry, players, had couple enjoyable games, would like to leave a +ve...
Medals,.... do not really care how many I have or do not have, how many Joe has or Peter does not have

So now what do I have left??

20% game of Risk (there are few other sites that have better (for me) games than Risk eg., Navyfield (no stupid Dice) or KDice (if I must have my Dice Fix)
15% forum browsing is most likely the ONLY thing that I would miss from CC (from HMV Wicked, to all the Noobs that I have fun talking to)
10% map selection, new maps do not interest me ( have tried and odd one now and then, but no thanks)
0% Tournaments Play. Nor really interested any more.. take for ever...
0% ability to comment on the game - can not comment on the games played any more, rating has no substance, no real meaning...

I gave someone a 2 & 3Star rating recently... Went over the game today, and I have NO Idea why I gave 3stars... And please, do not tell me I should always give 3's. That argument sucks. If I can not work out what my ratings mean... LOL... How can anyone else??
Do not even wish to begin to make a comment on "it will all average out" :roll:

When I joined I had 100% interest in CC
Now, maybe 45%.. More than half is gone...


Goodbye feedback...
I will not be renewing my membership.



+1 and my premium is up on the 11th July.

Doubt I'll renew but can be persuaded by some great members.

I don't find the forums overtly friendly seem to be ruled by the the same guys with high post counts who subvert the game to their own rules if you question them they get hostile (see various freestyle threads on waiting to last minute to play)
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