Ethcal Question

[Easy n Dirty]

I'm in a tournament game, and my opponent looked like he had me lined up for elimination, in which case he will get my 5 cards, cash again, and eliminate the last remaining player to win the game. However, to use his words, "CC hung and advanced my men". I ask him for clarification of what this means, and he says, "I clicked to attack and nothing happened, so I kept hitting attack. Im guessing at some point that CC registered the attack and advanced the screen on its end, but not on mine because by the time I got everything refreshed, it had already advanced my men. I can only guess that while I was hitting attack repeatedly, that CC had advanced itself on its end and thought I had hit advance. I hope that is clear, its just a game, but its just sad that the internet had to decide the outcome..." Having advanced his men into a spot from which he cannot continue the attack, he ended his turn - it's now my turn, and if I go and cash, I'm pretty sure the game is mine. My opponent has suggested that if I and the other player are gentlemen, we would each skip our turns and thus allow him to continue his turn from where he left off.

I have a couple thoughts on this, but wanted to hear from some others first.

Thoughts?

[owenshooter]

he's full of it. kill him. i doubt he would give you a second chance. a mistake is a mistake is a mistake. if he isn't patient enough to wait for a screen to reload, what is to say he isn't going to do it again, and ask for a third chance at getting it right? we've all made costly mistakes, and we've all sucked it up and taken the loss and moved on. win the game, and let him learn his lesson. there are no gentleman in war.-0

[trapyoung]

i agree with owen, shitty stuff happens to everyone and he should have used his fort to try to salvage any position he had left, either positioning himself to keep from being eliminated by you and the other player or set himself up to try to continue pursuing someone next turn. it's not your fault that what happened on his end happened; it was largely the result of chance, just as much as the original drop was, the cards you've received, and the dice you've gotten. tell him you're sorry for the circumstances but you have to play as though that's how he intended his turn.

[Scott-Land]

I'm in a tournament game, and my opponent looked like he had me lined up for elimination, in which case he will get my 5 cards, cash again, and eliminate the last remaining player to win the game. However, to use his words, "CC hung and advanced my men". I ask him for clarification of what this means, and he says, "I clicked to attack and nothing happened, so I kept hitting attack. Im guessing at some point that CC registered the attack and advanced the screen on its end, but not on mine because by the time I got everything refreshed, it had already advanced my men. I can only guess that while I was hitting attack repeatedly, that CC had advanced itself on its end and thought I had hit advance. I hope that is clear, its just a game, but its just sad that the internet had to decide the outcome..." Having advanced his men into a spot from which he cannot continue the attack, he ended his turn - it's now my turn, and if I go and cash, I'm pretty sure the game is mine. My opponent has suggested that if I and the other player are gentlemen, we would each skip our turns and thus allow him to continue his turn from where he left off.

I have a couple thoughts on this, but wanted to hear from some others first.

Thoughts?

I was in a speed game yesterday where an opponent had connection issues. I had made a terrible play and he was clearly going to win if he had not been disconnected. If he timed out, I would surely win the next turn. Since it was out of his control, I had no problems with letting him win a game in which he deserved to win. Being disconnected isn't a tactical error. Although my character wasn't tested because he reconnected with about a minute to go and won. It's almost similar to your situation with one very big difference. He had made no mistakes to cost him the game.

CC advancing on it's own is possible I guess, but it also could be human error. A mistake that is very hard to swallow-- locking your armies where they are rendered useless. It does happen quite frequently with the newer players. And most will say the same thing, it's not my fault it's CC's.

First, could he be in fact telling a tale to cover a mistake or did CC mysteriously advance his armies ? Or perhaps he's on CM where he clicked one too many times and it auto advanced them-- of which would be his negligence. In this case, I don't think it would be wrong with either decision you make. Comes down to judging his character if you have previous experience with this particular player. Is it highly possible that CC did in fact malfunction ? -- if the answer is no, i'd go win the game.

Kudos on posting your doubts on what the correct ethical thing to do-- winner in my book

[Thezzaruz]

In a situation where the only opponent left gets a "no go" due to connection issues I could give him another chance at it. But if he (as in your example) has had his go then I really wouldn't care how or why he thinks he's been screwed by the internet gods. So I say go for it. But kudos for thinking about it I say...

[Easy n Dirty]

So I ended up going ahead and taking my turn and winning the game. This was in part because the third player never checked into chat to give his opinion, nor to say what he was gonna' do if I did in fact skip my turn. Last thing I wanted was to skip my turn and then to have this third player step in, take his turn, and vanquish us both.

Truth be told though, I don't think I was gonna' skip my turn anyway. I believe the guy that he got "screwed" by CC, in a manner of speaking - he's always been an upstanding guy when we've played together before, and he's certainly a very skilled player. But I also think that this sort of thing does happen if you're not careful, and so the player has a responsibility to proceed with caution when making an attack where he does not intend to advance...so he does bear some, if not most, of the responsibility for the mishap here. I realize this is a self-serving argument in this instance which is why I sought input from others here. Thanks to all that responded, hopefully I made the right call.