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This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby Kemmler on Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:06 pm

Ok I finally got to colonel and I was happy. I joined a freestyle AoR1 game with a cook. He clearly doesnt know how to play and uses all his armies. Then with my army of 29 I go over to attack him. I get through 8 armies and lose them all. He comes out and kills me.

I WANT MY POINTS BACK... from 10 hard earned games I lose them all in one with this crap luck. It's unreal.

There goes colonel by a long way and it'll take days to get back.
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby White Moose on Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:07 pm

This isnt just another dice complaint thread...


Yes it is ;)
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby gimil on Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:09 pm

Learn wen to stop attacking . . .
What do you know about map making, bitch?

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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby Timminz on Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:11 pm

The higher your score gets, the harder it will be to maintain.
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby Kemmler on Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:12 pm

gimil wrote:Learn wen to stop attacking . . .


You think I shouldn't attempt a 29 on 8?
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby Visaoni on Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:21 pm

Kemmler wrote:
gimil wrote:Learn wen to stop attacking . . .


You think I shouldn't attempt a 29 on 8?


He didn't say to not attempt it. He said learn when to stop. There is a big difference, and he is right. Sometimes you just have to realize that even though you should have won, that if you continue you run the risk of screwing yourself, and that is when you need to stop.
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:22 pm

Kemmler wrote:Ok I finally got to colonel and I was happy. I joined a freestyle AoR1 game with a cook. He clearly doesnt know how to play and uses all his armies. Then with my army of 29 I go over to attack him. I get through 8 armies and lose them all. He comes out and kills me.

I WANT MY POINTS BACK... from 10 hard earned games I lose them all in one with this crap luck. It's unreal.

There goes colonel by a long way and it'll take days to get back.



GET OVER IT!!!!!!!

Random does not mean "equal". For more info ... check one of the thousand dice threads already begun.





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Kemmler wrote:
gimil wrote:Learn wen to stop attacking . . .


You think I shouldn't attempt a 29 on 8?


He didn't say to not attempt it. He said learn when to stop. There is a big difference, and he is right. Sometimes you just have to realize that even though you should have won, that if you continue you run the risk of screwing yourself, and that is when you need to stop.


Nice try, but you can't stop auto-attack ... at least yet (auto-attack limits is listed as "pending" in the suggs and bugs)
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby Visaoni on Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:57 pm

No, you can't. That is why you don't use auto in situations where it could screw you. 29v8 is something I wouldn't auto unless losing really wouldn't make a difference.
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby MOBAJOBG on Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:48 am

Trust me when I say, ...there are no Ez points for the taking and comes with its own set of undesirable aspects
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby yeti_c on Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:49 am

[Nelson]Ha ha[/nelson]

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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby FabledIntegral on Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:32 am

Visaoni wrote:No, you can't. That is why you don't use auto in situations where it could screw you. 29v8 is something I wouldn't auto unless losing really wouldn't make a difference.


There's about a 1/10000 chance you'd lose that. If you think that's really a situation to watch out for, be my guest, but the fact htat CC screws people constantly is more than enough to piss me off.

Once again I'd much rather have consistency play into a strategy game than what is considered "random" which is more streaky than anything.
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby BadMoonRising on Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:26 am

I guess youll be leaving then seeing how the dice are so broke?
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby Kemmler on Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:09 am

FabledIntegral wrote:
Visaoni wrote:No, you can't. That is why you don't use auto in situations where it could screw you. 29v8 is something I wouldn't auto unless losing really wouldn't make a difference.


There's about a 1/10000 chance you'd lose that. If you think that's really a situation to watch out for, be my guest, but the fact htat CC screws people constantly is more than enough to piss me off.

Once again I'd much rather have consistency play into a strategy game than what is considered "random" which is more streaky than anything.


thanks Fabled... my joy at colonel was short lived
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby InsomniaRed on Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:15 pm

If you were good enough to get up to Colonel, you'll get back, as I see you did. So stop complaining and worry about maintaining your rank, seeing as it seems highly important to you.
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby snapdoodle on Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:17 pm

you need to be prepared for the loss of all your troops down to 3. Otherwise, pressing auto is foolish.
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby e_i_pi on Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:23 pm

There's about a 1/10000 chance you'd lose that.


1 in ~2850 actually :p

But yeah, the lesson to learn here is... if he had 9, how many was he going to get next turn? Say he gets 5... so he has 14 total tops... play it down to when you have 18ish armies. If you haven't won, wait til next turn. Guaranteed win over 5 minutes is better than guaranteed loss over 2 minutes. 8-)

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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby PhatJoey on Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:23 pm

snapdoodle wrote:you need to be prepared for the loss of all your troops down to 3. Otherwise, pressing auto is foolish.


Exactly. So quit the whinin'.
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby FabledIntegral on Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:00 am

e_i_pi wrote:
There's about a 1/10000 chance you'd lose that.


1 in ~2850 actually :p

But yeah, the lesson to learn here is... if he had 9, how many was he going to get next turn? Say he gets 5... so he has 14 total tops... play it down to when you have 18ish armies. If you haven't won, wait til next turn. Guaranteed win over 5 minutes is better than guaranteed loss over 2 minutes. 8-)

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Not according to the Risk battle calculator which you merely input the numbers and they calculate the probability.
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby xeno on Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:16 am

So much irony
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby e_i_pi on Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:17 am

FabledIntegral wrote:
e_i_pi wrote:
There's about a 1/10000 chance you'd lose that.


1 in ~2850 actually :p

But yeah, the lesson to learn here is... if he had 9, how many was he going to get next turn? Say he gets 5... so he has 14 total tops... play it down to when you have 18ish armies. If you haven't won, wait til next turn. Guaranteed win over 5 minutes is better than guaranteed loss over 2 minutes. 8-)

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Not according to the Risk battle calculator which you merely input the numbers and they calculate the probability.



No dramas, I'll go back to Uni and do another 6 years of Maths
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby FabledIntegral on Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:30 am

Hmm? Didn't really understand if that was sarcasm or not.

Speaking of dice that constantly f*ck me... had this game won easy sweep. Then what was a ridiculously easy sweep turned into "dice f*ck fabledintegral." I autoed a a seemingly small territory and lost a ton of armies. Ok well... I still had enough even after the disaster.. 6v1 forht eLAST territory on blue. Yeah, after that shit streak 6v1 lost as well.

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=2768973

Then blue takes his turn and instead of stayinb back in the game and sitting on his territory, he suicides me! BS! Congrats to the former private who got 260 pointsish in this game, 69 from me... in a game I should have won easily....
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby e_i_pi on Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:21 am

FabledIntegral wrote:Hmm? Didn't really understand if that was sarcasm or not.


A little hehe. Anyhow, your 1 in 10000 quote forced me to go back and check my maths. Turns out there was a tiny error in one calculation method :oops: , it's actually about a 1 in 3388 chance of losing in a 28v8 battle, meaning it happens more than twice as often as what happens in my sig. :P
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby thellama73 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:24 am

I like how you folks refer to a move that beats you as a "suicide." Sounds more like a homicide to me. :D
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby FabledIntegral on Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:16 pm

thellama73 wrote:I like how you folks refer to a move that beats you as a "suicide." Sounds more like a homicide to me. :D


Probably because you don't know how to play the game!

e_i_pi wrote:
FabledIntegral wrote:Hmm? Didn't really understand if that was sarcasm or not.


A little hehe. Anyhow, your 1 in 10000 quote forced me to go back and check my maths. Turns out there was a tiny error in one calculation method :oops: , it's actually about a 1 in 3388 chance of losing in a 28v8 battle, meaning it happens more than twice as often as what happens in my sig. :P


The risk battle calculator STILL shows when inputting 28 v 8 that the "probability of winning" is .9997.
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Re: This isnt just another dice complaint thread...

Postby e_i_pi on Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:25 pm

FabledIntegral wrote:
e_i_pi wrote:
FabledIntegral wrote:Hmm? Didn't really understand if that was sarcasm or not.


A little hehe. Anyhow, your 1 in 10000 quote forced me to go back and check my maths. Turns out there was a tiny error in one calculation method :oops: , it's actually about a 1 in 3388 chance of losing in a 28v8 battle, meaning it happens more than twice as often as what happens in my sig. :P


The risk battle calculator STILL shows when inputting 28 v 8 that the "probability of winning" is .9997.


1 / 0.0003 = 3388

ie - 28 v 8 = .9997 chance of winning = 1 in 3388

We can stop arguing now :mrgreen:
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