Soloman wrote:FabledIntegral wrote:Soloman wrote:owenshooter wrote:Soloman wrote: I did not say it is impossible you are emotionally running on a tangent I said that those who are freemiums have to be more choosey, Have higher skill and luck then their premium counter parts to achieve equal ranks. Simple mathematic probability supports this point I am sorry if it upset you. I know there are plenty of freemiums who have made it to higher ranks based upon superior luck and skill. But ask your self this which are there more of on this site freemiums or premiums? After answering that question then ask this one does the minority group have proportionally more high ranks or less then the majority? Then using again basic principles of probability and common sense what key characteristic gives 1 side the advantage over the other? Now I know the answer to all the above, but if you still wish argue that is your prerogative...
hey, whatever argument you want to use for your relatively low rank, go ahead if it makes you feel better. but to say you are more skilled and have to be more selective is just ridiculous. laughable. as i stated before, i made it to Lt. playing as a freemium, and would have easily continued my upward climb. you seem stalled as a striper, and are not making excuses for your low rank, as many tournament players do (that whole myth was just debunked in a thread in the GD, to the dismay of many tournament players). you have no factual evidence to back up any of your claims or stances, it is just the rambling of one guy refusing to pony up 25 bucks, and rationalizing his low rank based on that one simple fact. "if i had premium, i'd be a colonel!!" riiiiiighhhht!!! if you had premium, you would be the same rank you are now, period. unless you went nuts in 1v1 speed games, like many do, and crashed back to corporal. soooo, go ahead and rationalize what you feel your rank should be vs. what it really is. however, at the end of the day, you earn your rank, and it doesn't matter if it is silver or gold, it is how you play the games. you seem to play the games at about a three stripe level... good for you!! be proud!!! stop making excuses as to why you haven't cracked the officers corp yet!-0
Again you twisted my words and the only Fact I need is basic math and the laws of Probability. I do not have the time for more games then I got and I did Pony up 25 bucks before for my brother and this site. All your arguments are emotionally based and not consistent with basic math principles. The sites own stats further supports my point with the few being the majority. I might be a higher rank as premium I might not but I would have a statistically higher chance then I do now of achieving higher rank if I were premium.
The law of large numbers and such have nothing to do with your posts. I've taken both high school and college level statistics (as well as many calculus courses just to show that I'm quite competent in mathematics).
Nothing more than the time factor is involved. You state that the other 10 games will counteract the single loss. Well with a freemium - he can still play 10 more games and counteract that single loss. It will just take more time. Thus your point is null.
While I only made it to college level Introduction to trigonometry. I still disagree and know that even with all the variable factors in a game, when you couple that with larger #'s more then time is involved as more then 1 game going helps to create immediate offsets and when you compare infinite versus finite, well if you took statistics you should already know how more then time is a factor in that also. SO I stick to my point superior luck, skill and choice is needed by freemiums versus there equal ranked Premium counterparts and the disproportionate amount of premiums with higher ranks compared to the larger body of freemiums on this site supports that point...
1. Your first point makes no sense. "Even with all the variable factors in a game," etc. This has nothing to do with the point.
2. You say "coupled with." Well I'll just look at the second part. First of all - you can't use the variable time, as that's already been given to you. No other variable besides time can differentiate between premium and freemium if you're sticking to casual games. Since we're discussing abusing games vs low ranks - the rate at which you climb rank, once again, is only determined by time. For example...
Let's say you play 10 games as premium all in one day. You win 8, lose 2.
For simplicity, let's say a win is +10 points, a loss is -30 points.
You just got overall +20 points.
With freemium, you can only play 4 games at once. Cool. Let's say you finish the first 4, win all of them. Then you lose the next 2, win the next 4.
Not counting in the fluctuation in score and assuming the rates of win/loss are constant, you're still at +20 points. Nothing has changed except that it took longer for you to achieve that end result.
You mention the law of large numbers - both premium and freemium will be able to play the same number of games over
time, as both will approach infinity. Freemium will approach infinity at a slower rate, yes, but it doesn't matter because infinity will never be reached because the rate of increase in score is capped at whatever your skill level is. So the only thing that is variable here is the rate of ascent, which can be classified as
time, which has already been made as a point.
Maybe you're a little rusty with your math - I'm still in university, still taking math courses, so not quite as rusty
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