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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby owenshooter on Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:31 am

Orange-Idaho-Dog wrote:Therefor I, and everyone here is a customer, and as in any business, the customer should come first. I don't see that happening here, or even our opinions bein taken into thought.

but not everyone in the forums agrees with you. and surely you realize what a small portion of the paying customes on this site actually utilized the forums, don't you? i would love to see the actual number of members and the actual number of those members that hit the forums and live chat on a regular basis. you are by no means a consensus Mr. Dog. this, like the classic map REVOLT, is going to fade away and end up in the end of the year "remember when" thread. so, if you feel as if you need to go somewhere else to show your support for a member and your disdain for the admins, i wish you well...-0
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby Master Bush on Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:57 am

Since we're not allowed to flame anyone in the GD, I thought we should have a general discussion on whether Lack and Twill should go suck a dick?

Again, not a flame, a general discussion.

Any thoughts?
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby owenshooter on Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:23 am

Master Bush wrote:Since we're not allowed to flame anyone in the GD, I thought we should have a general discussion on whether Lack and Twill should go suck a dick?

Again, not a flame, a general discussion.

Any thoughts?

thank you again for validating the points made by those of us able to maintain a civil level of discourse. what exactly did you just accomplish by that post? who did you convince to join your "revolution"? wow... this is truly a quality movement, led by CC finest and brightest...-0
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby jako on Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:26 am

hm....this is better than watching a tv drama. seriously, like someone said early, only a small portion of the members actually visits the forums and most of them probably couldnt care less about wicked getting sacked.

as for all these legality citations,

1. why is everyone citing US laws? lack lives in CANADA. we know USA is all big and mighty but the world doesnt just fall away when u hit the american border.

2. shes a volunteer, even wicked said so, so even if someone were to miraculously cite some canadian labour citations, wouldnt it not even apply to this case?

it may seem like the majority of the members feel wronged for/empathize with wicked, the ones that support the other side, just dont feel like making an ass of themselves and dirtying their fingers to type out some counter posts. (though i applaud the brave souls that actually stood up to voice their opinions for lack. just make sure u wash ur hands thoroughly and dont forget to get at the shit under the nails.)

now, let the flaming recommence.
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby Master Bush on Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:49 am

owenshooter wrote:
Master Bush wrote:Since we're not allowed to flame anyone in the GD, I thought we should have a general discussion on whether Lack and Twill should go suck a dick?

Again, not a flame, a general discussion.

Any thoughts?

thank you again for validating the points made by those of us able to maintain a civil level of discourse. what exactly did you just accomplish by that post? who did you convince to join your "revolution"? wow... this is truly a quality movement, led by CC finest and brightest...-0


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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby Juan_Bottom on Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:59 am

I'm gonna second what mandalorian2298 said. WICKED is a part of the community, more than any mod or owner. This really shouldn't be a surprise....

BRING BACK WICKED!!!
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby Nephilim on Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:24 am

owenshooter wrote:
Orange-Idaho-Dog wrote:Therefor I, and everyone here is a customer, and as in any business, the customer should come first. I don't see that happening here, or even our opinions bein taken into thought.

but not everyone in the forums agrees with you. and surely you realize what a small portion of the paying customes on this site actually utilized the forums, don't you? i would love to see the actual number of members and the actual number of those members that hit the forums and live chat on a regular basis. you are by no means a consensus Mr. Dog. this, like the classic map REVOLT, is going to fade away and end up in the end of the year "remember when" thread. so, if you feel as if you need to go somewhere else to show your support for a member and your disdain for the admins, i wish you well...-0


QFT

mr. dog, the VAST majority of paying members don't know or don't care about this, and if you think you'll have more fun at landgrab..........then your opinions lose all their credibility....

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owenshooter wrote:
Master Bush wrote:Since we're not allowed to flame anyone in the GD, I thought we should have a general discussion on whether Lack and Twill should go suck a dick?

Again, not a flame, a general discussion.

Any thoughts?

thank you again for validating the points made by those of us able to maintain a civil level of discourse. what exactly did you just accomplish by that post? who did you convince to join your "revolution"? wow... this is truly a quality movement, led by CC finest and brightest...-0


I dont know who you are?


he's just some dude with a lot more class and respect than you'll ever have......thanks for leaving, see ya!
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby Orange-Idaho-Dog on Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:50 pm

My name is OID, thank you. And weather or not anyone thinks one persons voice counts, it does when they are paying customers. Wicked may have said she was a volunteer, but also said she got paid for working here, therfore it was a JOB. Even if it was only free memebership, it was still a payment for the work that she did. So, if she wanted to, and she should, she could make some sort of case against Lack and CC in Canada. Things aren't that different between USA and Canada. Yal have lived in our shadow for ages, and want to be just like us.
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby Blitzaholic on Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:42 pm

lackattack wrote:As you may already know, wicked is no longer part of Team CC.

You might be wondering why - what "our" side of the story is. Well, this is a personal issue between her and Conquer Club's administration and I don't feel it's right to discuss the details in public.

I'll just say she wasn't asked to step down because she had Lyme's disease, or because she had disagreements with us. There was no one thing that decided it - it was a culmination of things behind and in front of the scenes. What made it all the more difficult, was the fact that she was a key part of Conquer Club's personality, and her and I had shared many good times and laughs.

I've been talking with wicked about how to part ways amicably for well over a week now, and I'm disappointed by her choice to do otherwise. But I'd still like to go ahead and post what I had planned to say, because it is true and the bottom line:

Since wicked had became a moderator 2 years ago she has volunteered an unbelievable amount of time. She's helped out in so many ways from assisting newbies to confronting trouble makers to dealing with loads of feedback conflicts to watching over live chat. The Conquer Club community is what it is today in large part because of her efforts and we really do appreciate her contribution.

I personally hold no ill feelings toward wicked, how could I after all she has done? I wish wicked lots of fun participating in the game and our special community as a member-at-large.

After all, CC is all about fun. I want you to have fun and I want our volunteers and staff to have fun helping you have fun. That's the way I've always envisioned how this website should be. Yes, this all sucks, a lot, but I'll continue to pour my life into keeping CC centred on fun.



well said lack

no doubt wicked was a major cc contributor and put a ton of time on here, she deserved the 1st special medal contribution award
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby jiminski on Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:54 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
.... she deserved the 1st special medal contribution award


good idea! i propose the medal be in the shape of a demonic-pixie, cudgeling a halibut*, wearing thigh-length boots!
(we should leave it up to the artist to chose if it were the demon pixie or the halibut wearing the boots!)




*she may prefer a trout ... but halibut scans better!
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby DAZMCFC on Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:06 pm

jiminski wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
.... she deserved the 1st special medal contribution award


good idea! i propose the medal be in the shape of a demonic-pixie, cudgeling a halibut*, wearing thigh-length boots!
(we should leave it up to the artist to chose if it were the demon pixie or the halibut wearing the boots!)




*she may prefer a trout ... but halibut scans better!


a trout would probably suit her look at the moment.
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby firstholliday on Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:11 pm

I won't say anything, otherwise i will get another pm from twill that i am spamming.



BUT!!

Don't worry Wicked , Lack will be on his knees within 2 months to have you back.
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby firstholliday on Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:12 pm

firstholliday wrote:I won't say anything, otherwise i will get another pm from twill that i am spamming.



BUT!!

Don't worry Wicked , Lack will be on his knees within 2 months to have you back.


Ps i have lymdisease, and there is no proof about anything regarding this disease.
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby firstholliday on Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:13 pm

Shit ment to edit that....

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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby DAZMCFC on Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:20 pm

firstholliday wrote:Shit ment to edit that....

:lol:




first, have you recovered from the sound beating me and andyb gave you and Jimbob. :D
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby jiminski on Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:29 pm

DAZMCFC wrote:
firstholliday wrote:Shit ment to edit that....

:lol:




first, have you recovered from the sound beating me and andyb gave you and Jimbob. :D


heheh give him his moment First! (we both know Mandy carried him)
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby Serbia on Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:33 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
lackattack wrote:As you may already know, wicked is no longer part of Team CC...



well said lack

no doubt wicked was a major cc contributor and put a ton of time on here, she deserved the 1st special medal contribution award


I really think this is the funniest post of the whole saga.
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby jpliberty on Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:02 pm

KLOBBER wrote:What you said above is all true, JPliberty.

Also, her pattern of extreme misconduct was way, way more than could have possibly been caused by anything like lyme disease...
Sincerely,

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I wasn't suggesting anything against Wicked. I think the situation was poorly handled, and that obviously is not the fault of the terminated one.

Doesn't matter to me whether it was the right thing to do or not...cause that was not my call. I don't own this site, Lack does.

What was wrong was terminating Wicked now, citing instances of misbehavior (which you cited again in your post) which occured over a long period of time and the most recent of which is ancient history.

That was both wrong and two-faced.

Lack DID NOT terminate Wicked for those reasons, or he'd have done it at the time.

Or, maybe, Lack was slow in acting because he'd rather not have terminated Wicked.

Any which way, it was poorly handled.

That being said, and being one who's hired and fired, these decisions most often are unpleasant.

And, I never had to fire in a community such as this one, where the terminated one has an audience of more than 20,000 partisans, many of whom are quite vocal.

So, on balance, I'll just say I don't have anything at all against Wicked, nor do I agree with the lynch mob calling for the scalp of Twill.

These mods, to me, mainly are usernames, not actually real people.

I don't spend as much time in the forum as others do, and not as much time as most of those making these posts.

I slaughter players. I'm here to play the game and to kill as many of you all as I can.

And as far as that goes, I"ve never had a game featuring Wicked, Lack or Twill.

So, in the final analysis, I must conclude that each is a spineless coward. :D
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby The Weird One on Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:06 am

jpliberty wrote:
I wasn't suggesting anything against Wicked. I think the situation was poorly handled, and that obviously is not the fault of the terminated one.

Doesn't matter to me whether it was the right thing to do or not...cause that was not my call. I don't own this site, Lack does.


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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby yeti_c on Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:11 pm

The Weird One wrote:
jpliberty wrote:
I wasn't suggesting anything against Wicked. I think the situation was poorly handled, and that obviously is not the fault of the terminated one.

Doesn't matter to me whether it was the right thing to do or not...cause that was not my call. I don't own this site, Lack does.


Best worded post in the thread.


Actually I disagree...

The reason it was "Handled badly" was because Wicked decided that the public forum was the place to air her dirty laundry...

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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby owenshooter on Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:28 pm

yeti_c wrote:Actually I disagree...

The reason it was "Handled badly" was because Wicked decided that the public forum was the place to air her dirty laundry...

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yeah, the blanket spamming of the forums, the profanity, the posting of names and numbers, the calling of names, the multi accounts for spamming purposes, the cheap parting shots leveled at the bosses and co-workers... all that led to an unpleasant parting of ways... at least the big boys kept their heads on straight, and weathered the "revolutions" storm. hell, they could have tossed someone off of the site for what was going on, but they didn't. they could have banned a slew of people for their actions, but they didn't. the person who handled it badly was the person that was casting the stones.-0
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby Curmudgeonx on Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:31 pm

owenshooter wrote:
yeti_c wrote:Actually I disagree...

The reason it was "Handled badly" was because Wicked decided that the public forum was the place to air her dirty laundry...

C.

yeah, the blanket spamming of the forums, the profanity, the posting of names and numbers, the calling of names, the multi accounts for spamming purposes, the cheap parting shots leveled at the bosses and co-workers... all that led to an unpleasant parting of ways... at least the big boys kept their heads on straight, and weathered the "revolutions" storm. hell, they could have tossed someone off of the site for what was going on, but they didn't. they could have banned a slew of people for their actions, but they didn't. the person who handled it badly was the person that was casting the stones.-0


The old Human Resources adage of terminating employees on a Friday came into play. The admins knew there would be a storm, they simply weathered it over the weekend (with Twill gone) and no admin/mods took the "bait" that a number of posters threw out there (except for maybe one). The storm will blow itself out; the mischieveous will use some of the things posted from time to time, but most people on the site will still look to the top left of the page at "Join A Game" than top middle "Forum" button.
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby owenshooter on Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:38 pm

Curmudgeonx wrote:The old Human Resources adage of terminating employees on a Friday came into play. The admins knew there would be a storm, they simply weathered it over the weekend (with Twill gone) and no admin/mods took the "bait" that a number of posters threw out there (except for maybe one). The storm will blow itself out; the mischieveous will use some of the things posted from time to time, but most people on the site will still look to the top left of the page at "Join A Game" than top middle "Forum" button.

it was known by both parties at least 2 weeks prior (some say 3, depending on where they are getting the scoop)... 2 days prior to the predetermined date, the great tick defense came into play. seriously, let it go. it is over. just like the classic map, she ain't coming back. she burned that bridge with the war she waged on the GD with her revolutionaries and mud slinging posts. had she been rational and stepped down, and stayed around and remained a part of the community, and proved she had truly changed, she could have been a mod again, and once again terrified the masses with her presence in the live chat and forums. again, it's over.. move on... your revolution failed the moment you all fought like 4th graders passing around a slam book.-0
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby jbrettlip on Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:41 pm

I need that tick defense!!!
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Re: Regarding wicked...

Postby pimpdave on Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:42 pm

jbrettlip wrote:I need that tick defense!!!


You mean Tourette's?
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