best way to rate a person that misses turns

[seamusvibe]

there used to be a way. i don't see it any more.

Not a deadbeat. they come back. is slow my only option? BOOOO

please add a miss turn checkbox.

i'm in a game a person missed 2 turns. what do i do? how do i rate him?

[FabledIntegral]

there used to be a way. i don't see it any more.

Not a deadbeat. they come back. is slow my only option? BOOOO

please add a miss turn checkbox.

i'm in a game a person missed 2 turns. what do i do? how do i rate him?

Who cares - it goes on their attendance record in their profile. You have no business rating them, it's automatically done (in case you were unaware, people's turns taken are now shown as a percentage in their profile).

[richardgarr]

The ratings for turns missed is very misleading . Do a little math on this, and you will see that a chronic turn skipper can quite easily not be noticed by glancing at the stat posted on their profile.
Lets look at a person who has a 90% turn average , that has played 1000 games at an average of ten turns per game, that would be 10,000 turns that could have been played. Now 90% turn average looks good at first glance, but considering that the person would have missed 1000 turns, out of 10,000 possible turns, it actually makes that person a really bad choice in playing.
As the turns played increases, the actual average of missed turns would diminish, giving a false impression to the person who may wish to know if the player in question, is actually a chronic turn skipper or has just missed the occasional turn.
I believe a simple turns missed stat would be much simpler and clear to all involved.
Some people use turn skipping as strategy, or simply to delay a game for whatever reason. This new percentage thing of turns taken is nifty, but is not an accurate reflection on the missed turns of the player in question.
A simple tag in the ratings that says, "missed multiple turns" would help, more then hinder.
Yes there is room for abuse here, but a simple comment telling people to check the game log, would easily debunk any false claims.

[SlayerQC]

there used to be a way. i don't see it any more.

Not a deadbeat. they come back. is slow my only option? BOOOO

please add a miss turn checkbox.

i'm in a game a person missed 2 turns. what do i do? how do i rate him?

If they miss turns, doesnt that apply to bad overall gameplay?

If not, just be cheap on stars.

I made a thread in suggestions to have the ratios moved to the ratings page instead of profile.

[Snorri1234]

All 1 stars.

[whitestazn88]

just give em the deadbeat thingy

like if you got a deadbeat dad, doesn't mean he never shows up, just he rarely does

[Snorri1234]

just give em the deadbeat thingy

like if you got a deadbeat dad, doesn't mean he never shows up, just he rarely does

Well I don't know if it's fair to accuse every player who missed to many turns of beating up your mom.

[FabledIntegral]

The ratings for turns missed is very misleading . Do a little math on this, and you will see that a chronic turn skipper can quite easily not be noticed by glancing at the stat posted on their profile.
Lets look at a person who has a 90% turn average , that has played 1000 games at an average of ten turns per game, that would be 10,000 turns that could have been played. Now 90% turn average looks good at first glance, but considering that the person would have missed 1000 turns, out of 10,000 possible turns, it actually makes that person a really bad choice in playing.
As the turns played increases, the actual average of missed turns would diminish, giving a false impression to the person who may wish to know if the player in question, is actually a chronic turn skipper or has just missed the occasional turn.
I believe a simple turns missed stat would be much simpler and clear to all involved.
Some people use turn skipping as strategy, or simply to delay a game for whatever reason. This new percentage thing of turns taken is nifty, but is not an accurate reflection on the missed turns of the player in question.
A simple tag in the ratings that says, "missed multiple turns" would help, more then hinder.
Yes there is room for abuse here, but a simple comment telling people to check the game log, would easily debunk any false claims.

Are you kidding? Figure it out yourself, 90% turn AS YOU SAID, means 1/10 turns missed. You make out of that what you will. Nothing more to it.

[Snorri1234]

The ratings for turns missed is very misleading . Do a little math on this, and you will see that a chronic turn skipper can quite easily not be noticed by glancing at the stat posted on their profile.
Lets look at a person who has a 90% turn average , that has played 1000 games at an average of ten turns per game, that would be 10,000 turns that could have been played. Now 90% turn average looks good at first glance, but considering that the person would have missed 1000 turns, out of 10,000 possible turns, it actually makes that person a really bad choice in playing.
As the turns played increases, the actual average of missed turns would diminish, giving a false impression to the person who may wish to know if the player in question, is actually a chronic turn skipper or has just missed the occasional turn.
I believe a simple turns missed stat would be much simpler and clear to all involved.
Some people use turn skipping as strategy, or simply to delay a game for whatever reason. This new percentage thing of turns taken is nifty, but is not an accurate reflection on the missed turns of the player in question.
A simple tag in the ratings that says, "missed multiple turns" would help, more then hinder.
Yes there is room for abuse here, but a simple comment telling people to check the game log, would easily debunk any false claims.

That is the most retarded thing anyone has said in the history of ever. It's there along the hitler who said "I have a splendid idea." or that time bush said "Mission Accomplished."


Seriously, are you too stupid to grasp the meaning of "percentages"?

[richardgarr]

The ratings for turns missed is very misleading . Do a little math on this, and you will see that a chronic turn skipper can quite easily not be noticed by glancing at the stat posted on their profile.
Lets look at a person who has a 90% turn average , that has played 1000 games at an average of ten turns per game, that would be 10,000 turns that could have been played. Now 90% turn average looks good at first glance, but considering that the person would have missed 1000 turns, out of 10,000 possible turns, it actually makes that person a really bad choice in playing.
As the turns played increases, the actual average of missed turns would diminish, giving a false impression to the person who may wish to know if the player in question, is actually a chronic turn skipper or has just missed the occasional turn.
I believe a simple turns missed stat would be much simpler and clear to all involved.
Some people use turn skipping as strategy, or simply to delay a game for whatever reason. This new percentage thing of turns taken is nifty, but is not an accurate reflection on the missed turns of the player in question.
A simple tag in the ratings that says, "missed multiple turns" would help, more then hinder.
Yes there is room for abuse here, but a simple comment telling people to check the game log, would easily debunk any false claims.

Are you kidding? Figure it out yourself, 90% turn AS YOU SAID, means 1/10 turns missed. You make out of that what you will. Nothing more to it.

If a person is missing 1 out of ten turns, at over a 1000 games, that is a lot of missed turns. Maybe to you that is nothing, but to me that is significant. I see you have missed over 100 turns yourself. That is a lot of missed turns. Are you saying it is no ones business, because you are a player who uses the missed turn strategy?

[FabledIntegral]

The ratings for turns missed is very misleading . Do a little math on this, and you will see that a chronic turn skipper can quite easily not be noticed by glancing at the stat posted on their profile.
Lets look at a person who has a 90% turn average , that has played 1000 games at an average of ten turns per game, that would be 10,000 turns that could have been played. Now 90% turn average looks good at first glance, but considering that the person would have missed 1000 turns, out of 10,000 possible turns, it actually makes that person a really bad choice in playing.
As the turns played increases, the actual average of missed turns would diminish, giving a false impression to the person who may wish to know if the player in question, is actually a chronic turn skipper or has just missed the occasional turn.
I believe a simple turns missed stat would be much simpler and clear to all involved.
Some people use turn skipping as strategy, or simply to delay a game for whatever reason. This new percentage thing of turns taken is nifty, but is not an accurate reflection on the missed turns of the player in question.
A simple tag in the ratings that says, "missed multiple turns" would help, more then hinder.
Yes there is room for abuse here, but a simple comment telling people to check the game log, would easily debunk any false claims.

Are you kidding? Figure it out yourself, 90% turn AS YOU SAID, means 1/10 turns missed. You make out of that what you will. Nothing more to it.

If a person is missing 1 out of ten turns, at over a 1000 games, that is a lot of missed turns. Maybe to you that is nothing, but to me that is significant. I see you have missed over 100 turns yourself. That is a lot of missed turns. Are you saying it is no ones business, because you are a player who uses the missed turn strategy?

No - I'm saying you're being dumb, and you still haven't addressed my point. If you think 1/10 turns over 1,000 games is significant, then FINE. I don't understand your point. I already said, make of it what you will. Jesus. Don't throw cheap shots at me kid, just because it appears, as the other poster said above me, YOU are too stupid to understand statistics and percentages.

[richardgarr]

The ratings for turns missed is very misleading . Do a little math on this, and you will see that a chronic turn skipper can quite easily not be noticed by glancing at the stat posted on their profile.
Lets look at a person who has a 90% turn average , that has played 1000 games at an average of ten turns per game, that would be 10,000 turns that could have been played. Now 90% turn average looks good at first glance, but considering that the person would have missed 1000 turns, out of 10,000 possible turns, it actually makes that person a really bad choice in playing.
As the turns played increases, the actual average of missed turns would diminish, giving a false impression to the person who may wish to know if the player in question, is actually a chronic turn skipper or has just missed the occasional turn.
I believe a simple turns missed stat would be much simpler and clear to all involved.
Some people use turn skipping as strategy, or simply to delay a game for whatever reason. This new percentage thing of turns taken is nifty, but is not an accurate reflection on the missed turns of the player in question.
A simple tag in the ratings that says, "missed multiple turns" would help, more then hinder.
Yes there is room for abuse here, but a simple comment telling people to check the game log, would easily debunk any false claims.

That is the most retarded thing anyone has said in the history of ever. It's there along the hitler who said "I have a splendid idea." or that time bush said "Mission Accomplished."


Seriously, are you too stupid to grasp the meaning of "percentages"?

What are you talking about??
Are you simply trying to flame?
Most people will not do the math, and will miss out on the fact that some players here are chronic turn skippers. Simply because the percentage shows 90% or better.
What I am saying is ,a simple change to an actual # of missed turns as opposed to the current percentage , that is displayed. Or even a "tag" in the ratings that says "missed turns".
If you are going to try and flame, at least point out what you consider stupid.

[Snorri1234]

If a person is missing 1 out of ten turns, at over a 1000 games, that is a lot of missed turns. Maybe to you that is nothing, but to me that is significant. I see you have missed over 100 turns yourself. That is a lot of missed turns. Are you saying it is no ones business, because you are a player who uses the missed turn strategy?

It's also a lot if it's over 500 games.


Seriously, your point is so obscure everyone misses it.

Now 90% turn average looks good at first glance, but considering that the person would have missed 1000 turns, out of 10,000 possible turns,

Do you think noone understands maths? If one has had over 100,000 turns and and a 90% turn-taking-rate then he has missed 10,000 turns.


Honestly, why is it misleading?

[richardgarr]

The ratings for turns missed is very misleading . Do a little math on this, and you will see that a chronic turn skipper can quite easily not be noticed by glancing at the stat posted on their profile.
Lets look at a person who has a 90% turn average , that has played 1000 games at an average of ten turns per game, that would be 10,000 turns that could have been played. Now 90% turn average looks good at first glance, but considering that the person would have missed 1000 turns, out of 10,000 possible turns, it actually makes that person a really bad choice in playing.
As the turns played increases, the actual average of missed turns would diminish, giving a false impression to the person who may wish to know if the player in question, is actually a chronic turn skipper or has just missed the occasional turn.
I believe a simple turns missed stat would be much simpler and clear to all involved.
Some people use turn skipping as strategy, or simply to delay a game for whatever reason. This new percentage thing of turns taken is nifty, but is not an accurate reflection on the missed turns of the player in question.
A simple tag in the ratings that says, "missed multiple turns" would help, more then hinder.
Yes there is room for abuse here, but a simple comment telling people to check the game log, would easily debunk any false claims.

Are you kidding? Figure it out yourself, 90% turn AS YOU SAID, means 1/10 turns missed. You make out of that what you will. Nothing more to it.

If a person is missing 1 out of ten turns, at over a 1000 games, that is a lot of missed turns. Maybe to you that is nothing, but to me that is significant. I see you have missed over 100 turns yourself. That is a lot of missed turns. Are you saying it is no ones business, because you are a player who uses the missed turn strategy?

No - I'm saying you're being dumb, and you still haven't addressed my point. If you think 1/10 turns over 1,000 games is significant, then FINE. I don't understand your point. I already said, make of it what you will. Jesus. Don't throw cheap shots at me kid, just because it appears, as the other poster said above me, YOU are too stupid to understand statistics and percentages.

Wow, are you both flaming for the sake of flaming???

I have a 100% turns taken percentage.
I like seeing that #, but it is false. I have missed numerous turns over the last year and a half, that I have been a premium member of CC. Yet I still have a 100% of turns taken shown on my profile. That in itself shows that the current percentage does not give an accurate reflection on a players attendance.
:D:P

[FabledIntegral]

If a person is missing 1 out of ten turns, at over a 1000 games, that is a lot of missed turns. Maybe to you that is nothing, but to me that is significant. I see you have missed over 100 turns yourself. That is a lot of missed turns. Are you saying it is no ones business, because you are a player who uses the missed turn strategy?

It's also a lot if it's over 500 games.


Seriously, your point is so obscure everyone misses it.

Now 90% turn average looks good at first glance, but considering that the person would have missed 1000 turns, out of 10,000 possible turns,

Do you think noone understands maths? If one has had over 100,000 turns and and a 90% turn-taking-rate then he has missed 10,000 turns.


Honestly, why is it misleading?

Exactly my point - it's not hard to understand BASIC math. You're trying to say it's misleading because it's at 90% or higher. My point is that's a stupid assumption, and those who find it to be misleading (apparently you have basic math skills and know better) are most likely idiots in the first place that failed basic algebra. And those are also the people that probably suck at this game, simply because this game revolves much around playing your odds, which involves... basic algebra!

So no problem here that I can discern.

[Snorri1234]

Are you simply trying to flame?

Not simply. I'm trying to flame in a very advanced manner.

Most people will not do the math, and will miss out on the fact that some players here are chronic turn skippers. Simply because the percentage shows 90% or better.

What huh?
If a person is too stupid to grasp that a 90% turns-taken-rate means they've skipped one in ten turns then either the education in their country is so bad I feel sorry for them or they aquired that stupidness on their own merit and I see no reason to consider them.

What I am saying is ,a simple change to an actual # of missed turns as opposed to the current percentage , that is displayed. Or even a "tag" in the ratings that says "missed turns".

So....what would that number of turns missed out of gotten turns tell us that this percentage won't? Some magical thing?


Do you even understand what your point is yourself?

[Snorri1234]

Wow, are you both flaming for the sake of flaming???

I have a 100% turns taken percentage.
I like seeing that #, but it is false. I have missed numerous turns over the last year and a half, that I have been a premium member of CC. Yet I still have a 100% of turns taken shown on my profile. That in itself shows that the current percentage does not give an accurate reflection a players attendance.
:D:P

No actually, that just tells us that you've missed so few turns that the rating isn't affected. If you miss 10 turns in 10,000 then it simply won't show up.

Which is good, because everyone should be allowed to miss a few turns in a while.

[Fruitcake]

I wonder if lack dould install a prgram that then shows turns taken over the last ? number of turns. So someone who has missed 15 turns in the last 500, for example, would also have this figure 485/500 on their profile page.

I put this forward as it would also show a trend. If someone then keeps all their turns, at some point, even though it may still show as 99% taken, one could see 500/500 turns taken recently.