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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:20 pm

DaGip wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:I barely know him, but it doesn't sound like he's a jerk or anything. Anyway he can always be re-banned. It would suck being permabanned, so I'm sure he learned his lesson. Why not put him on some kind of probation?


Probation has been debated before. I say that all permabanned members ban records be reviewed at the time of membership renewal, and the mods can decide accordingly...paying members should be considered for probationary release.


I actually agree DAGIP.
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby DaGip on Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:39 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:
DaGip wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:I barely know him, but it doesn't sound like he's a jerk or anything. Anyway he can always be re-banned. It would suck being permabanned, so I'm sure he learned his lesson. Why not put him on some kind of probation?


Probation has been debated before. I say that all permabanned members ban records be reviewed at the time of membership renewal, and the mods can decide accordingly...paying members should be considered for probationary release.


I actually agree DAGIP.


And the person that originally posted that horrid pornographic image that Jimi was speaking about earlier, never got banned for it, and is still running around CC forums, all the while Xtra took the heat unfairly for the incident.
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby wrestler1ump on Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:02 pm

Sorry guys but I am all for keeping xtratabasco banned and so is twill. As an additional detail, xtra was a terrible sport about his ban, and still believes it is not his fault, so I say we keep him on ban.
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:27 pm

wrestler1ump wrote:Sorry guys but I am all for keeping xtratabasco banned and so is twill. As an additional detail, xtra was a terrible sport about his ban, and still believes it is not his fault, so I say we keep him on ban.


You're turning this into revenge. What you want is an apology?
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby wrestler1ump on Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:32 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:
wrestler1ump wrote:Sorry guys but I am all for keeping xtratabasco banned and so is twill. As an additional detail, xtra was a terrible sport about his ban, and still believes it is not his fault, so I say we keep him on ban.


You're turning this into revenge. What you want is an apology?


No apology needed, he just should have abided by the guidelines.
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby TeeGee on Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:52 pm

wrestler1ump wrote:Sorry guys but I am all for keeping xtratabasco banned and so is twill. .


I think twill is a big boy and can speak for himself. Twill hasn't said publicly one way or another on this topic.
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Re: LACK: Regarding Unfair Treatment of Xtra via Wicked

Postby Blitzaholic on Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:19 pm

clapper011 wrote:I like xtra too :ugeek:

shouldnt he be freed?


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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby hulmey on Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:29 pm

A probation period for people such as suggs, norse , the_lion and xtra would be a good move from CC's side of things!

1. more money
2. they would cease creting multi's
3. are they really terrible people?
4. we are all christians and we should forgive and forget.
5. wicked was drugged up!
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby owenshooter on Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:33 pm

hulmey wrote:A probation period for people such as suggs, norse , the_lion and xtra would be a good move from CC's side of things!
1. more money
2. they would cease creting multi's


response to #1 - you named 4 people... that is $100bucks... that isn't even a bottle of wine for lack...

response to #2 - the fact that you are admitting that they are CREATING MULTIS AND BREAKING RULE NUMBER ONE OF CC SHOWS YOU THAT THEY DON'T GET IT. "hey, release me from jail, and i promise i won't break another law, despite the laws i am continually breaking in here..."

sigh...-0

p.s.-the wicked defense won't work for sugg's.. he was the leader of her revolution.. he somehow believed that if he helped a cartoon avatar of a chick, she would be endebted to him, and fall in love with him, and she would turn real and become his lover, dish washer, chef, masseuse, etc... basically, a replacement for his mom.
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby TeeGee on Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:42 am

owenshooter wrote:
hulmey wrote:A probation period for people such as suggs, norse , the_lion and xtra would be a good move from CC's side of things!
1. more money
2. they would cease creting multi's


response to #1 - you named 4 people... that is $100bucks... that isn't even a bottle of wine for lack...

response to #2 - the fact that you are admitting that they are CREATING MULTIS AND BREAKING RULE NUMBER ONE OF CC SHOWS YOU THAT THEY DON'T GET IT. "hey, release me from jail, and i promise i won't break another law, despite the laws i am continually breaking in here..."

sigh...-0

p.s.-the wicked defense won't work for sugg's.. he was the leader of her revolution.. he somehow believed that if he helped a cartoon avatar of a chick, she would be endebted to him, and fall in love with him, and she would turn real and become his lover, dish washer, chef, masseuse, etc... basically, a replacement for his mom.



1. Xtra continues to pay his premium

2. Xtra has never created a multi - he is only forum banned and can still play and is very anti-cheat

Wicked promised to show us all exactly what and where xtras crime was and time and time again failed to show any evidence.

He may have called some people a name which in america is a racial slur but in Australia is another name for an accountant and when warned, he did stop.

I would never endorse the release of any member who creates multi's

And I would happily use my premium as a guarantee for xtra (ie if he re-offends take my premium also)

The fact there is a moderator backing his release must show something of this persons character.
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby Scott-Land on Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:50 am

Since Wicked was intoxicated while performing her mod duties- all of her decisions should be overruled.


Btw- I guess Xtra was before my time here in the forums. Have no idea who he is....
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby owenshooter on Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:02 am

TeeGee wrote:1. Xtra continues to pay his premium

2. Xtra has never created a multi - he is only forum banned and can still play and is very anti-cheat

Wicked promised to show us all exactly what and where xtras crime was and time and time again failed to show any evidence.

He may have called some people a name which in america is a racial slur but in Australia is another name for an accountant and when warned, he did stop.

I would never endorse the release of any member who creates multi's

And I would happily use my premium as a guarantee for xtra (ie if he re-offends take my premium also)

The fact there is a moderator backing his release must show something of this persons character.

i stand CORRECTED!!! FREE XTRA!!!! - 0

p.s.-delia, this is how you convince people to support re-enstatement for a member, not by
avoiding questions and being vague!! nice job TeeGee!!!
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby Sentinel XIV on Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:23 am

I got my xtratabasco experience over at NOTA for the short while that I was there. Seems like a nice enough guy, just a bit opinionated (and that's not a bad thing). I say bring him back. CC could use a little more spice.
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby TeeGee on Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:50 am

Thanks for the support everyone. I know xtra will appreciate it and since he can't thank you himself, I will on his behalf.

We have the support of 1 moderator, all we need to do is convince at least 1 admin and hopefully something might come of this.

Xtra is lodging another e-ticket, as he believes in doing things through the correct channels.

Yes, xtra can be opinionated, and we don't have to agree with his opinions. Provided he puts them in the correct forum is there any problems with him expressing them? Same as anybody else ?
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby MeDeFe on Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:16 am

There was no "Hell, Yeah!" option so I voted "yes" instead, the evidence of the given reason for the ban is yet to be seen, and given the recent revelations regarding limes, ticks and bad prescriptions... Well, review the case, or better yet, overhaul the banning system so people don't get off with a slap on the wrist for a first major offense but get permabanned for several minor infractions.

Also stop classifying everything you perceive "not to have a point" as spam, that's just your subjective pov, moderator or not.
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby DaGip on Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:25 am

Just to make another point, I don't consider Xtra a troll. Sure he said things and had opinions that might have been opposing some of the more liberal mindsets in the community, but he really didn't set out to try to harm CC in any way.

The REAL TROLLS are the ones that get forum banned and then they create multis and keep coming back in just to disrupt the community. Then they get site banned and then they really become trolls after that.

Xtra would be the least of the moderation's worries.
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby MeDeFe on Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:46 am

*buries a boot in DaGip's arse for having used the word "liberal"*

Anyway, I'm probably one of those who are considered "liberal" on these forums and I never recall being offended by what he wrote, most of it was about how great Ron Paul is or how the Bush govt. was an inside job. No, offensive he was not.
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby DaGip on Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:32 am

MeDeFe wrote:*buries a boot in DaGip's arse for having used the word "liberal"*

Anyway, I'm probably one of those who are considered "liberal" on these forums and I never recall being offended by what he wrote, most of it was about how great Ron Paul is or how the Bush govt. was an inside job. No, offensive he was not.


*takes MeDeFe's boot out of his arse, and sticks it in MeDeFe's mouth*

Sorry to hear that you are a liberal :( It's like having cancer. But back to the point. Xtra's political and conspiratorial view points were offensive to some, perhaps not to you, but to a small group that ended up getting Mod Powers. Xtra believes so strongly in his politics and 9-11 Truth, that he made it a point to always have the subjects on the board. Some (not all) people hated seeing that and when Wicked became a Mod, she looked for every little scrap of evidence to convince CC moderation that he was indeed a troll, when Wicked herself became a troll (of the worst sort considering the multi-creating how-to tips she passed out).

Wicked insinuated that Xtra was a multi and that he had posted porn, both of which were totally untrue and she never posted the evidence when she was called on it.

Basically, this is how I see Xtra's ban:

1. Xtra doesn't take shit from people.
2. Xtra believes strongly in his view points
3. Xtra used one racial slur towards describing illegal aliens.
4. Xtra posted both Ron Paul and 9-11 threads to wake people up, and I believe that he has accomplished that with a few people.
5. A small group of people despised Xtra for mostly posting 9-11 threads.
6. One of these people acquired Mod Powers and was on drugs
7. Very soon after this, Xtra was banned for calling soundout a jock-sniffing-ball-licker outside of FF

This was the stupidest reason to ban someone for. And for people to continually call Xtra a troll is not fair, as the ones who have accused Xtra of trolling are themselves TROLLS of the worst sort!

Xtra deserves more as a very loyal member of CC. He has always shown his patience and honor.

PS: sticking my shit covered boot in your mouth was just a joke, no offense...I know how you liberals can get really offended :)
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby DaGip on Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:36 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:
Though, I think many can agree that Dekloran (shudders) can stay banned, yes?


Xtra himself would agree with you on that point, Muy.
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby Night Strike on Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:39 am

DaGip wrote:But back to the point. Xtra's political and conspiratorial view points were offensive to some, perhaps not to you, but to a small group that ended up getting Mod Powers. Xtra believes so strongly in his politics and 9-11 Truth, that he made it a point to always have the subjects on the board. Some (not all) people hated seeing that...


The way I see it, that counts as spamming. If others are letting threads die down whereas one person is continually making new posts or new threads on the same subject, that's spamming up the forum.
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby DaGip on Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:44 am

Night Strike wrote:
DaGip wrote:But back to the point. Xtra's political and conspiratorial view points were offensive to some, perhaps not to you, but to a small group that ended up getting Mod Powers. Xtra believes so strongly in his politics and 9-11 Truth, that he made it a point to always have the subjects on the board. Some (not all) people hated seeing that...


The way I see it, that counts as spamming. If others are letting threads die down whereas one person is continually making new posts or new threads on the same subject, that's spamming up the forum.


You don't understand. The threads were related but had different subjects. Not spamming in my opinion. If you consider Xtra's posts spamming than you also have to consider people talking about sports spamming.
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby Night Strike on Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:09 pm

DaGip wrote:You don't understand. The threads were related but had different subjects. Not spamming in my opinion. If you consider Xtra's posts spamming than you also have to consider people talking about sports spamming.


I'm just going off your comments.....I didn't spend much time in Chatter Box while xtra was still here (still don't spend much time their).
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby DaGip on Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:23 pm

Night Strike wrote:
DaGip wrote:You don't understand. The threads were related but had different subjects. Not spamming in my opinion. If you consider Xtra's posts spamming than you also have to consider people talking about sports spamming.


I'm just going off your comments.....I didn't spend much time in Chatter Box while xtra was still here (still don't spend much time their).


Besides, his banning offense wasn't for spamming; it was for calling someone a jocksniffingballlicker outside of FF. S-T-U-P-I-D!
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby hiddendragon on Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:31 pm

Xtra is a smart guy...Most people with intelligence often say things and have opinions idiots have trouble understanding...Just because most people are stupid doesn't mean he should suffer for it...
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Re: Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

Postby DaGip on Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:27 pm

hiddendragon wrote:Xtra is a smart guy...Most people with intelligence often say things and have opinions idiots have trouble understanding...Just because most people are stupid doesn't mean he should suffer for it...


Yeah, xtra's avatar is a picture of his dog. That means that he is so smart he doesn't have to try to show everyone how smart he is by having a cute avatar. Just look at mine...I mean I have to have a cute picture of Ronald Reagan to try to seem like a smart person, but Xtra needs no such avatar.
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