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Re: Attention Please 3 for 1

Postby Frop on Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:35 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:Frop not sure what your issue is, however, It does seem that I have a good point and agreed by others, so we can agree to disagree. :D I understand they are 2 total different things, but they are added into the total, use a separation perhaps like others suggested, if you have 30 total and 20 are for game play use 20/(10) 30 total or keep them separate, just some change is all, and it looks like they are going to explore it and change it some. That's all I wanted to know. ;)

No, you've said it's a bad thing and that it diminishes the value of the other medals. However you haven't explained why it's a bad thing and haven't provided any sufficient answer as to why the gameplay medals have any value at all. For instance, JR will soon have his assassin medal, but I think we'll all agree it's not his cup of tea. I hope you'll find that having 10 map medals is a lot more impressive than the ability to waste an inane amount of time on the various game settings.
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Re: Attention Please 3 for 1

Postby Bones2484 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:37 pm

Why can't we just get rid of the "Medals: XX" line anyways?

What purpose does it serve? Obviously it doesn't do anything more than inflate egos, and even if you took it out you would still be able to see which medals everyone has anyways.

This way there wouldn't be the silly worry about gameplay medals being "devalued" by tournament/map medals as they all stand alone.
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Re: Attention Please 3 for 1

Postby Blitzaholic on Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:50 pm

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Blitzaholic wrote:Frop not sure what your issue is, however, It does seem that I have a good point and agreed by others, so we can agree to disagree. :D I understand they are 2 total different things, but they are added into the total, use a separation perhaps like others suggested, if you have 30 total and 20 are for game play use 20/(10) 30 total or keep them separate, just some change is all, and it looks like they are going to explore it and change it some. That's all I wanted to know. ;)

No, you've said it's a bad thing and that it diminishes the value of the other medals. However you haven't explained why it's a bad thing and haven't provided any sufficient answer as to why the gameplay medals have any value at all. For instance, JR will soon have his assassin medal, but I think we'll all agree it's not his cup of tea. I hope you'll find that having 10 map medals is a lot more impressive than the ability to waste an inane amount of time on the various game settings.


I never said tournament medals was a bad thing or it diminishes the value of other medals :?


you are misunderstanding


I said the tournament medals that are awarded are over valued compared to other medals, like you can get 30 tournament medals alone currently, and max you can get for all else combined is 27?

so, keep them seperate of create a different point value and I told you i have created and done my own tournies, so this suggestin would lower mine once they update it as well, it does not favor me at all.

as far as the diminishing concept, what i was saying was in response to your reply about go make them yourself, and I said I have and if all cc players start making maps and tournies it may diminish them, cause many new people who try them may not know what they are doing, and i respect all that have made maps and hosting tourneys, its hard work. I think you misread all I was saying.
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Re: Attention Please 3 for 1

Postby Frop on Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:07 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:I never said tournament medals was a bad thing or it diminishes the value of other medals :?

you are misunderstanding

I said the tournament medals that are awarded are over valued compared to other medals, like you can get 30 tournament medals alone currently, and max you can get for all else combined is 27?

I'm definitely being busy with misunderstanding (sic). You claim the contribution medals are worth more than the game medals and I slightly rephrased that by saying that the game medals are worth less than the contribution medals (in your opinion at least).

Contribution > Game = Game < Contribution

This means you did say that stuff, although not with the fancy word, right? Please tell me you get it before I'm forced to stab myself in the neck with this blunt, yet awkwardly attractive pencil.
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Re: Attention Please 3 for 1

Postby Bones2484 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:08 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:as far as the diminishing concept, what i was saying was in response to your reply about go make them yourself, and I said I have and if all cc players start making maps and tournies it may diminish them, cause many new people who try them may not know what they are doing, and i respect all that have made maps and hosting tourneys, its hard work. I think you misread all I was saying.


That will not be the case. For one, someone who is unprepared will never be able to make a map let alone get it approved into the site. There's no question about it. And as for the tournaments, if you don't look like you know what you're doing people will not want to join and the tournament will never get past the starting gate.

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Bones2484 wrote:Why can't we just get rid of the "Medals: XX" line anyways?

What purpose does it serve? Obviously it doesn't do anything more than inflate egos, and even if you took it out you would still be able to see which medals everyone has anyways.

This way there wouldn't be the silly worry about gameplay medals being "devalued" by tournament/map medals as they all stand alone.
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Re: Attention Please 3 for 1

Postby Blitzaholic on Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:27 pm

Frop wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:I never said tournament medals was a bad thing or it diminishes the value of other medals :?

you are misunderstanding

I said the tournament medals that are awarded are over valued compared to other medals, like you can get 30 tournament medals alone currently, and max you can get for all else combined is 27?

I'm definitely being busy with misunderstanding (sic). You claim the contribution medals are worth more than the game medals and I slightly rephrased that by saying that the game medals are worth less than the contribution medals (in your opinion at least).

Contribution > Game = Game < Contribution

This means you did say that stuff, although not with the fancy word, right? Please tell me you get it before I'm forced to stab myself in the neck with this blunt, yet awkwardly attractive pencil.



no no no, i was not saying anything about contribution medals or games medals or that one is worth more than the other (that was OP who made a good point on contribution medals and game medals), I was talking about medals in general, and that making 30 tourneys and getting 30 medals for it is over valued some in my opinion, and to balance it out like make or create 3 tournies and get 1 medal for it, not 3, as a suggestion or some kind of change. I mean to get a gold game play medal, you must beat 500 unique opponents which can take months upon months, for some a year or longer, I am not trying to compare them, I am saying there should be a change and it looks like they are going to make a change and for the better, or seperate them into 2 different categories, if you read all thru here, many agree frop and looks like they will be making some change or changes to balance it. I mean some can make up to 10 or 15 tourneys at one time and manage them and get tons of medals, I think they should be rewarded, but just a little less, but rewarded they shall be and rightfully so. Myabe go read my 1st post again, or scott-lands post again. Hope you get over your flu.
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Re: Attention Please 3 for 1

Postby Mentos- on Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:40 pm

I would think the easiest solution would be to make 2 separate categories for medals: Gameplay medals, and Contribution medals.
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Re: Attention Please 3 for 1

Postby hwhrhett on Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:48 pm

Mentos- wrote:I would think the easiest solution would be to make 2 separate categories for medals: Gameplay medals, and Contribution medals.



yeah, op made a good point about them being seperate entities, 2 categories would fix all.

because the problem isnt that theyre oddly proportioned, the problem is that they are for different things, and for some reason are added together.
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Re: Attention Please 3 for 1

Postby Night Strike on Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:07 pm

Bones2484 wrote:Why can't we just get rid of the "Medals: XX" line anyways?

What purpose does it serve? Obviously it doesn't do anything more than inflate egos, and even if you took it out you would still be able to see which medals everyone has anyways.

This way there wouldn't be the silly worry about gameplay medals being "devalued" by tournament/map medals as they all stand alone.


I'm pretty sure medals are a php mod, so separating the totals numbers may not be possible.
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Re: Attention Please 3 for 1

Postby Bones2484 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:11 pm

Night Strike wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:Why can't we just get rid of the "Medals: XX" line anyways?

What purpose does it serve? Obviously it doesn't do anything more than inflate egos, and even if you took it out you would still be able to see which medals everyone has anyways.

This way there wouldn't be the silly worry about gameplay medals being "devalued" by tournament/map medals as they all stand alone.


I'm pretty sure medals are a php mod, so separating the totals numbers may not be possible.


That would make sense. But I wouldn't be surprised if you could just get rid of that line all together and leave the medal icons there. Seems that the main "problem" is with them being added... so if they were left for people to count in whatever means they'd like there wouldn't be a "problem"!
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Re: Attention Please 3 for 1

Postby AAFitz on Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:06 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:Why can't we just get rid of the "Medals: XX" line anyways?

What purpose does it serve? Obviously it doesn't do anything more than inflate egos, and even if you took it out you would still be able to see which medals everyone has anyways.

This way there wouldn't be the silly worry about gameplay medals being "devalued" by tournament/map medals as they all stand alone.


I'm pretty sure medals are a php mod, so separating the totals numbers may not be possible.


That would make sense. But I wouldn't be surprised if you could just get rid of that line all together and leave the medal icons there. Seems that the main "problem" is with them being added... so if they were left for people to count in whatever means they'd like there wouldn't be a "problem"!


since JR just spent a month, and 1800 points getting medals... he might have some issues with it actually
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Re: Attention Please 3 for 1

Postby hulmey on Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:19 pm

AAFitz wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:Why can't we just get rid of the "Medals: XX" line anyways?

What purpose does it serve? Obviously it doesn't do anything more than inflate egos, and even if you took it out you would still be able to see which medals everyone has anyways.

This way there wouldn't be the silly worry about gameplay medals being "devalued" by tournament/map medals as they all stand alone.


I'm pretty sure medals are a php mod, so separating the totals numbers may not be possible.


That would make sense. But I wouldn't be surprised if you could just get rid of that line all together and leave the medal icons there. Seems that the main "problem" is with them being added... so if they were left for people to count in whatever means they'd like there wouldn't be a "problem"!


since JR just spent a month, and 1800 points getting medals... he might have some issues with it actually


Well he should spend 3 months making a Tournament
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Re: Attention Please 3 for 1

Postby Pedronicus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:14 pm

hulmey wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
since JR just spent a month, and 1800 points getting medals... he might have some issues with it actually


Well he should spend 3 months making a Tournament

Once he's got that pesky gold assassin medal sewn up, prepare for JR's assault on the most ever Tournaments hosted, complete with several new threads such as: top 5 tournament lists, best ever organiser lists and the like. :D
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Re: Attention Please 3 for 1

Postby Bones2484 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:52 pm

AAFitz wrote:
since JR just spent a month, and 1800 points getting medals... he might have some issues with it actually


Why? All the medals would still be there for anyone to see.
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Re: Attention Please 3 for 1

Postby hulmey on Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:17 pm

Pedronicus wrote:
hulmey wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
since JR just spent a month, and 1800 points getting medals... he might have some issues with it actually


Well he should spend 3 months making a Tournament

Once he's got that pesky gold assassin medal sewn up, prepare for JR's assault on the most ever Tournaments hosted, complete with several new threads such as: top 5 tournament lists, best ever organiser lists and the like. :D


I doubt he has the balls or communtiy spirit to do it!
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