STAND INS???

[CaptainMoo]

is anyone else getting annoyed with the amount of "babysitting" going on?

I dont mind if a person goes on hols and thier mate covers but its getting silly now. Im in several games (20+) through 2 tournaments and I wont mention their name but he/she has missed 2 goes...almost 3 then all of a sudden a much higher rank takes over.....not so much of a prob but ive seen 3 players "babysit" for the same account.....across different styles n maps

dont get me wrong...if someone has a hol, or cant play then sure a mate can do so....but the same player...getting 3 others to cover their different games..depending on game etc is soooooo wrong.....in my opinion....if u join a game and cant commit to it then u lose out

in what other game can an infinite or multiple choosen sub be made?

In what other game, if you are losing can u decide to bring in a sub unquestioned?...in most cases not even a sub...but an expert?

[CaptainMoo]

its starting to look like people are "babysitting" their best maps, in return for others.....totally ruining the whole game.

im so sick of joining a game.....only to find im not playing any of the people in the list but a bunch of babysitters....

[BaldAdonis]

I went on holidays recently and asked a large group to cover my games because there are a lot of them.

Usually you'll leave instructions so that the people helping you will play as you would. They aren't always followed, but more often that benefits the other players.

[richardgarr]

In my clan , it is common practice to post a temporary pw with an appeal to the clan to take your turns when a babysitter is needed. Most people in the clan are great players so having multiple subs is not really an issue with us.
As far as higher ranks taking turns for stripes and below I really do not see a huge issue with this, unless of course the high rank player in question, is actually playing the whole game. A turn here and there will not usually make a huge impact.

[CaptainMoo]

interesting comments....suggest its even more common than i thought.

If i enter a tournament is it accepted then that i should face multiple opponents (even under the same registered name for the tourney) depending on the tourney mapm style etc.....if i wanna enter a clan based tourney i will.....but when u enter a 1v1 it should be that....if ur V1 cant make it then he should be (as i should if icant make it) be d/q'd...whats the point if your opponent jut gets his mate that can play that map better take over?

CC used to be awesome but now it seems a few have got together to babysit accounts to their advantage........can we combat this or accept this?

[CaptainMoo]

if a better player babysits, then how about they lose the differnce and the winner makes the extra difference in the final outcome. As it stands now, it seems quite a few players babysit for each other dependant on map choice which is paramount to cheating and ruinining the game

[Fruitcake]

It is holiday season.

But really it is difficult to make a full judgemental response without knowing the games and the impact.

[Scott-Land]

I agree that account sitting have been a huge problem of late. I know nothing of your situation Moo, but there are reasons why one would require multiple sitters. You can get a sitter for your team games but what if that sitter is also in a singles game with you? You then have to get another one for that game....etc. Those who try to get multiple sitters are actually the the most honest and fair ones. I would have a problem if they just got one sitter for all the games. Frankly it would be optimum if you could find one that is in no games with you- but that's not an easy task as you normally ask a close friend to sit and normally they are in games with you.

More ways to abuse account sitting rules than the example I've just given- Moo. It is a privilege that CC allows us the convenience of getting a sitter. A privilege, if continued to be grossly abused, may be revoked. In which case, the ones who practices it fairly will be punished.

[BaldAdonis]

What exactly are you talking about? As far as I know, players get other people to cover their games because they won't be there to play them. They don't look for a specialist to play all of their games that they don't want to play (and for some reason, already joined).

[gdeangel]

I share a couple of experiences.

First one, I was asked to babysit for the whole summer with someone who had a lot of games going and I was the only babysitter. I tried to keep up, and some were just closing roles, others were on maps I had never played, and some were positional games where the guy had virtually no chance at winning in my opinion. Some of those latter ones I didn't take turns in when I got overloaded. Overall, I think the opponents were not affected, if anything helped, by the fact that I was subing in and maybe didn't see exactly what the original strategy was and not that familiar with the map.

Second one. A guy asked me and an bunch of other people in the clan (unknown to each other) to take his turns for the weekend. I went in one morning and started to deploy, and in the middle, someone else was in the account and deploying elsewhere, which completely messed up the possible strategies. Again, this helped the opponents. In this case, there was a good reason to have many people taking the turns because the guy has like 100s of games going, and it would have been too much for one person to take.

I have yet to see anyone asking for babysitting when they are not legitimately away for a weekend or going off to summer holiday or something like that. But, of course, when they do, they are going to find someone who is going to hopefully do a decent job, and that usually means a higher rank player if they can get one.

[oVo]

First... there's no babies getting sat here... the more appropriate term is Game Sitter!

When I've been AWOL my tendency is to ask 4 or so players to look out for my games until I return
and as BaldAdonis mentioned above, I also tend to leave an overly wordy synopsis of what's been
going on in the game... leaving them suggestions... but usually saying "have fun with it and feel
free to do as you please." I have never assigned maps to be monitored and just ask that they look
in on my games so there no long waits or missed turns.

Tourney play could be seen differently, particularly if specific players repeatedly seek "specialists"
to take their turns for them and maybe this is something that needs to be addressed if it becomes
an obvious abuse of the system.

[CaptainMoo]

none of us mind a friend looking after a friends account if hes got overtime to do or the missus drags him off or the puter breaks down etc

my prob is in a few recent tourneys ive come up against the same account / name.....and he/she has announced "X playing for......"

im getting sick of the fact that it seems in almost every game, tourney or otherwise that "x...playing for" seems to crop up............esp in tourneys....its unreal that ive played 4 plaers, looking adter accounts under 1 name in 1 round of a tourney

id like to play with the people i joined u against.....this needs to be stopped....

is it so wrong that i ask to play against the people who started the game?

if u cant commit to playing then u forfeit......this needs addressing soon imo for the better of the game

I for one am getting sick of having to adapt new tactics to the latest "babysitter".......if u wanted to play then sign up in the first instance ffs

***NOTE*** comments above by OVUS are the ones that make this hard to control because it seems he is talking about the times it is needed but he also alludes to how it can be and is abused

[CaptainMoo]

this is maybe the best online game i ever played. Super competitive. Whats the point though if u can account sit....it will end up about 10 peeps untouchable.....if u cant play your turns then dont make so many games etc......CC is going down in playability week by week in my estimation

[Timminz]

You'll see this more often in Tourneys, since people who've gone away for vacation, will still need to join those games, whereas with public games, people tend to make an effort to not join any, when thy know they'll be leaving soon.,

[CaptainMoo]

tourneys have reserves in most cases before they start....also for regulars if u join a tourney and not turn up then u should score a loss of points as usual....

[Snorri1234]

I'm actually babysitting everyone's account in this thread.