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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby Scott-Land on Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:32 am

jiminski wrote:Here is a nice uncontroversial subject.

How many truly exceptional players are in the top 20?

Personally i count around 5 or 6, i am certainly not going to divulge which.. where would the fun be in that!


Controversy ? And you don't name those 5 or 6 players..... psh!

Exceptional is all relative. To some players, based on their skill level and criteria, there could be a lot of exceptional players in the top 20. Now, ask myself and some of the top players- the list will shrink up. Others will let emotion be the determining factor....

I've played with 18 of those players. Only can I find 5 or 6 players if you extend the list to 23- excluding judgment on #2. 8-)

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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby daydream on Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:47 am

i think i have only really played with 3 of them, and watched some of the others, but i would say 4 of them are brilliant for sure.
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby DAZMCFC on Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:50 am

i have not played any of the top 20, as most of these players probably don't play the kind of games i play. to me, to be an exceptional player your win percentage must be greater than 65%. i know some will agrue it depends on who you play and the type of game. you can manipulate the scoreboard in a way that you CAN get to the top 20 with as little as 35%. to me this is not enough(my % is only in the mid 30's and i'm a lowly Major).


now i'm not going to say i don't care about my score and rank, because i do, but not to the exstent of playing games that i don't like. good luck to all that can manipulate the system in a way they can get the most points, but it's just not Cricket.
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby Scott-Land on Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:54 am

DAZMCFC wrote:i have not played any of the top 20, as most of these players probably don't play the kind of games i play. to me, to be an exceptional player your win percentage must be greater than 65%. i know some will agrue it depends on who you play and the type of game. you can manipulate the scoreboard in a way that you CAN get to the top 20 with as little as 35%. to me this is not enough(my % is only in the mid 30's and i'm a lowly Major).


now i'm not going to say i don't care about my score and rank, because i do, but not to the exstent of playing games that i don't like. good luck to all that can manipulate the system in a way they can get the most points, but it's just not Cricket.


Hey- my win percentage is 37%! :lol: :lol:

*ahem* Win percentage is the absolute easiest criteria to manipulate.
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby jiminski on Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:04 am

Scott-Land wrote:Controversy ? And you don't name those 5 or 6 players..... psh!



heh i said it was 'uncontroversial' .. and i am certainly not going to uncourt it!


some good, entertaining lists and posts here so far though.
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby Scott-Land on Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:29 am

jiminski wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:Controversy ? And you don't name those 5 or 6 players..... psh!


heh i said it was 'uncontroversial' .. and i am certainly not going to uncourt it!


Quite the paradox-
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby AAFitz on Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:52 am

A snapshot of the top twenty like this is so temporary, that it isnt really the top 20...certainly the top 5 are, and probably the top ten, but the 10 to 20 players change regularly, and the scores that mark them fluctuate widely too.

To really map out the top players, for the purposes of fun, a time element would need to be instated. In other words, tie the score to the time held. That still isnt necessarily accurate, because the score is so decided by choice of game, that it doesnt reflect the skill or lack of skill of any one person on there exactly.

If scottland wanted to join 100 doodle assassin freestyle games, his score would plummet, but its possible his actual overall skill would improve.

Who the top 20 are is subjective. Certainly anyone can make it in there without being spectacular. That guy fitz was 17 for a while, and he sucks, for example.

The top scores of all time, is probably a better indicator of the top 20. Even that is flawed, because of the one hit wonders, but judging the temporary top 20 is a daily, or weekly event. And again, will never reflect the skill... just the points.
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby xxtig12683xx on Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:52 am

15-16 ive played with at least once....maybe more but im not bothering to check.


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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby jiminski on Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:53 am

AAFitz wrote:A snapshot of the top twenty like this is so temporary, that it isnt really the top 20...certainly the top 5 are, and probably the top ten, but the 10 to 20 players change regularly, and the scores that mark them fluctuate widely too.

To really map out the top players, for the purposes of fun, a time element would need to be instated. In other words, tie the score to the time held. That still isnt necessarily accurate, because the score is so decided by choice of game, that it doesnt reflect the skill or lack of skill of any one person on there exactly.

If scottland wanted to join 100 doodle assassin freestyle games, his score would plummet, but its possible his actual overall skill would improve.

Who the top 20 are is subjective. Certainly anyone can make it in there without being spectacular. That guy fitz was 17 for a while, and he sucks, for example.

The top scores of all time, is probably a better indicator of the top 20. Even that is flawed, because of the one hit wonders, but judging the temporary top 20 is a daily, or weekly event. And again, will never reflect the skill... just the points.


heheh you are a very boring man Fitzy
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby comic boy on Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:59 am

I would say about 6 are exceptional, another 6 pretty good and the rest range from very good manipulators to plain cheats. Just waiting on a couple of wins though and then the exceptional count hits 7 :lol:
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby AAFitz on Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:05 am

jiminski wrote:
heheh you are a very boring man Fitzy


I know that was a bit stale.. I threw the fitz joke in there as a consolation prize for reading. Let me finish my coffee.. maybe ill go through the top 20, and find the playing flaws, and character flaws of each of the top 20 and post them.

That should add some spice.

Ill still be boring though, wont I? :oops:
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby jiminski on Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:08 am

AAFitz wrote:
jiminski wrote:
heheh you are a very boring man Fitzy


I know that was a bit stale.. I threw the fitz joke in there as a consolation prize for reading. Let me finish my coffee.. maybe ill go through the top 20, and find the playing flaws, and character flaws of each of the top 20 and post them.

That should add some spice.

Ill still be boring though, wont I? :oops:


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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby AAFitz on Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:13 am

That was not for public view...If I get 80 pms from whacked out televangelist supporters, Ill be really mad.....

and post something to that effect. :x
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby lord voldemort on Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:35 am

hmm ive played with about 3/4 of them...
id say 5-6 really impress me and are just stupidly good at this game.
the others are either like fitz said fakers..or manipulators...
though they all have some sort of skill
there are others out of the top 20 i would put in that stupidly good category as well
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby Nephilim on Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:22 am

well to props to adonis for starting off the actual commentary on players, and for giving hope to all us balding men out here.....

so here we go:

sj is a pimp and has been around the top for a long time.....a tactician who doesn't make mistakes

i think poo is one of the top players on the site, i've seen him perform at all styles, and i'd say it doesn't really get much better in all around skill and savvy.

scott is about the same, i'd say....even tho scotty has gone to the dark side, he always kicked ass at sequential and handles team games too.....w/o freestyle and CM, i don't know if scott would be quite so high, but he's definitely in the top 20 players....

skyT has had his issues, but i teamed with him for a few games a while back, we didn't chat at all and played seamlessly, so regardless of his ethics, he does have skill

herpes may not be quite on the up-and-up either, but he can play, and he's funny as f*ck so......top 20, i don't know bud, you may have to beat me a few more times.....

warsteiner should be banned and removed, i don't care if he's good or not

seul is pretty stinkin good in team games, one of the top 20 in that i'd say, don't know about other styles....

mhennigan, i was always disappointed when i sent him challenges to team games and he never responded......

lt pie, pretty good but i don't know about top 20, sorry mate

velve i think is a tad below poo and scott in all around skill but is a killer in all styles

the rest i haven't played (some never even heard of) or have played just barely, and some of them have bad reps or are known for shady tricks.....

i'd say scott, poo, and velve are exceptional at all styles; sjnap and seul are exceptional at team games; and some others are just under the exceptional line, i guess......but that could change

so jim, i say 5!
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby lord voldemort on Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:22 pm

throgh blitz into that list...i think he is worthy enuf.
skilled in many game types..
also a very admirable player..not afraid to play new people and what not yet can still mix it with the best
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:00 pm

lord voldemort wrote:through blitz into that list...i think he is worthy enuf.
skilled in many game types..
also a very admirable player..not afraid to play new people and what not yet can still mix it with the best


thx voldemort, but I am not currently in the top 20 anymore :(

dam medals :evil:

I dont know what else to play for or do, so collecting more of the medals, joining more tourneys and got clan challenge going, I guess that will keep me busy. Have the top 20 play the Horsemen in a 60 game challenge!


to answer jimbo's guestion, i would say 5 or 6 exceptional, that word is a strong word, that does not mean that the others are not good, they all found ways hopefully within the rules to reach that high, so that says something, but exceptional? maybe a handful.







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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby jiminski on Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:05 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:through blitz into that list...i think he is worthy enuf.
skilled in many game types..
also a very admirable player..not afraid to play new people and what not yet can still mix it with the best


thx voldemort, but I am not currently in the top 20 anymore :(

dam medals :evil:

I dont know what else to play for or do, so collecting more of the medals, joining more tourneys and got clan challenge going, I guess that will keep me busy.


to answer jimbo's guestion, i would say 5 or 6 exceptional, that word is a strong word, that does not mean that the others are not good, they all found ways hopefully within the rules to reach that high, so that says something, but exceptional? maybe a handful.


I am strict judge, lol



Well If too many are accredited as exceptional it rather undermines the whole concept.

anyway, i think you need to now make maps.. that's where the real medals are mate! ; )
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby LFAW on Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:28 pm

1 Sjnap - Team Player. Can't say hes exceptional...
2 Scott-Land - Arrogant tosser in game (rightfully so), nice guy out of game
3 Poo-Maker - Always thought this guy deserved most to be Number 1.
4 King_Herpes - Joker.
5 SkyT - Love Sky, wonderful player, great guy.
6 Rabbiton - Boring.
7 Maxatstuy - Best player on the site... except me :) :P
8 Warsteiner - Fantastic Player, Number 2 IMO :) shame he's freemium.
9 Buizerd - He's a ?rat :) ?lay him to understand ;-)
10 Fantasianasian - *Whistles* He may be american but hes a damn good player.
11 Skillerman - Pretty crap...
12 Seulessliathan - Team playing genius.
13 lt.pie - Team playing genius.
14 mhennigan -Very good at what he does. Would probably be number 1 on the site if he were Premium :)
15 Thomas.Paine - How did he get here? He's very good. But not all rounder.
16 Gwaahjo - Very good at everything. Not amazing, but very good.
17 RashidJelzin - He kinda makes me laugh.
18 General Mojo - Is that the Rainbow guy?
19 Velvecarrots - Yeah... coz I know who you are
20 JCKing - He's obviously a multi...
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby King_Herpes on Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:30 pm

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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby Georgerx7di on Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:11 pm

I've only played with the top 4 and rashid. I think scott and poo are top players, especialy at std esc which is the only thing im good at. King herpes seems pretty good too. Only played snap in team games, he seems good. Rashid I've played once in freestyle, he's good.
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby Thomas.Paine on Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:24 pm

jiminski wrote:15 Thomas.Paine - How did he get here? He's very good. But not all rounder.


That is a good question jiminski-- I bet I have the longest losing streak-- my relative rank of .973 just makes it more confusing.
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby THE ARMY on Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:08 pm

pretty good, though some need to be out of there
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby jiminski on Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:42 am

Thomas.Paine wrote:
jiminski wrote:15 Thomas.Paine - How did he get here? He's very good. But not all rounder.


That is a good question jiminski-- I bet I have the longest losing streak-- my relative rank of .973 just makes it more confusing.



i did not ask that question Thomas. .. i think you misused Mr Quote Button?
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Re: TOP 20 - How Do You Rate Them.

Postby joecoolfrog on Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:15 am

The current top 20 would greatly benefit in stature by the readmittance of myself and a fellow family member :mrgreen:
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