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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby Jeff Hardy on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:23 am

Stephen Wayne wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Stephen Wayne wrote:i believe your definition of farming is to narrow
a farming games is game with ether a team with all high rank players vs some cooks and privets
or it is just a high rank playing a 2 player game with a new recruit
these take up almost all the join game pages and there no way to win them
so a triples/quads game started by high ranks is an auto farm game if low ranks join it? If so, get your buddies like I stated and join the game. And how does a 2 player game fill the join game section? Your only waiting for 1 player to join it. I think you need to research your beliefs a little bit more.


yes all those games are farming games becase its teams of high rank players that start the game with the intension of playing low ranks if they wanted to play there own skill level they can put something in call outs
and your friends cant help you in a team game unless your friend is sjnap


stephen is such an idiot

he joined Game 3578172 (against some of my friends and me) and then he complained he got farmed

he even pmed me about farming

we never asked you to join
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby Stephan Wayne on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:27 am

Jeff Hardy wrote:
Stephen Wayne wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Stephen Wayne wrote:i believe your definition of farming is to narrow
a farming games is game with ether a team with all high rank players vs some cooks and privets
or it is just a high rank playing a 2 player game with a new recruit
these take up almost all the join game pages and there no way to win them
so a triples/quads game started by high ranks is an auto farm game if low ranks join it? If so, get your buddies like I stated and join the game. And how does a 2 player game fill the join game section? Your only waiting for 1 player to join it. I think you need to research your beliefs a little bit more.


yes all those games are farming games because its teams of high rank players that start the game with the intension of playing low ranks if they wanted to play there own skill level they can put something in call outs
and your friends cant help you in a team game unless your friend is sjnap



stephen is such an idiot

he joined Game 3578172 (against some of my friends and me) and then he complained he got farmed

he even pmed me about farming

we never asked you to join


bullshit i send you a pm about playing 1vs1 with me and you told me to join that game and you all had much higher ranks and more experience you suggested the game
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby Jeff Hardy on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:33 am

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PLAYER57832 wrote:But, I might like to try some team games ... only I get tired of seeing the same set of Briagdiers and Majors all together, particularly for quads.


So we shouldn't start games with teammates we like playing with ?

This thread in its entirety confuses me. One person says if higher ranked players start team games, we're farming. One says if we join low ranked games, we're farming. So, basically, unless we play private games only, we're farming ? (And then we'll get the threads about how high ranked players only ever play other high ranked players...and a different cycle starts.)

I start a dozen doubles games every week...public games with my regular doubles partner. We have a decent win rate. Sometimes we play majors and colonels. Sometimes we play sergeants, corporals, or cadets. We never know who will join. A lower rank that joins will get a lot of points if they win. So be it. If they play well, they deserve it. Is that farming ? It seems like such a murky territory (like Kamchatka...er...A12).


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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby owenshooter on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:39 am

PLAYER57832 wrote: I have a minor issue if you all join a game I start, knowing full well that the only way we will beat you is pure luck. Its not about points, its about just having a reasonable shot, not being completely overwhelmed automatically.

how do you not have a chance? you have a regular partner, you are on maps you choose, you have loads of games under your belt and you know what you are doing? i love when i start a game and higher ranks join!! why? it is my map, my setting, and their ass kicking that they have just walked into. if, at your rank, you feel you are being "farmed", you are sorely mistaken. at your rank, you have a shot at beating anyone on this site every time the map drops.-0
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:39 am

Jeff Hardy wrote:
dividedbyzero wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:But, I might like to try some team games ... only I get tired of seeing the same set of Briagdiers and Majors all together, particularly for quads.


So we shouldn't start games with teammates we like playing with ?

This thread in its entirety confuses me. One person says if higher ranked players start team games, we're farming. One says if we join low ranked games, we're farming. So, basically, unless we play private games only, we're farming ? (And then we'll get the threads about how high ranked players only ever play other high ranked players...and a different cycle starts.)

I start a dozen doubles games every week...public games with my regular doubles partner. We have a decent win rate. Sometimes we play majors and colonels. Sometimes we play sergeants, corporals, or cadets. We never know who will join. A lower rank that joins will get a lot of points if they win. So be it. If they play well, they deserve it. Is that farming ? It seems like such a murky territory (like Kamchatka...er...A12).


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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby Stephan Wayne on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:41 am

this is pointless you are all in denial
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:44 am

Stephen Wayne wrote:this is pointless you are all in denial

of course we are. we are all farmers
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby Bruceswar on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:46 am

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
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Stephen Wayne wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Stephen Wayne wrote:i believe your definition of farming is to narrow
a farming games is game with ether a team with all high rank players vs some cooks and privets
or it is just a high rank playing a 2 player game with a new recruit
these take up almost all the join game pages and there no way to win them
so a triples/quads game started by high ranks is an auto farm game if low ranks join it? If so, get your buddies like I stated and join the game. And how does a 2 player game fill the join game section? Your only waiting for 1 player to join it. I think you need to research your beliefs a little bit more.


yes all those games are farming games becase its teams of high rank players that start the game with the intension of playing low ranks if they wanted to play there own skill level they can put something in call outs
and your friends cant help you in a team game unless your friend is sjnap



I play team games and lately many teams have joined against us with good players. I do not mind and at all and welcome it. Bring it on. I look forward to a good battle. With many team players out there there is always a good battle to be had if you want it.
I have had many players over 2,500 points recently join my games and have won most of them. well, like 70%. I have also joined about 5 team tourneys that Blitz has hosted. Dint do very well, but I joined.



Take me off foe and I will run a few teams at you, so all these people can say you are farming ;)
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Re: Glass houses and all that...

Postby General Mojo on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:48 am

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yes, I started those few games months ago when I needed my assassin medal. When I first started trying to get the medal I played 3 player games. It was taking too long and alot of players dont know how to play them and I was taking cheap losses so I bumped it up to 8 player games. I used the map classic and only won a handful. So I moved on to a harder map which is what you have listed here and got the rest of my kills for my assassin gold. I havent played assassin since than which was 2 months ago. Than I saw King Herpes create a post where he was starting assassin game on the map waterloo and was only playing new recruits on purpose. He stated he would drop the game if a ranked player joined. Thank god I had my medals before that post was created. But yes, I played some of that type before it got out of control with some players.



So its perfectly acceptable to "farm" for one purpose (to get some cheesy medals representing a game type that you never play to appear on your profile) but not for another (to up your rank artificially on the scoreboard)? :?


As an impartial observer (i dont really care about farming one way or the other), it seems to me what really upsets people the most is when people take advantage of ?s who either deadbeat or have no prayer of winning due to the settings of the game (usually some variation of freestyle). That being the case, I thought I'd throw this idea out there: How about a new category of medals for (1) number of unique ?s defeated and/or (2) number of opponents defeated by deadbeat. At least then the true farmers would have to carry around silver or gold medals in those categories to accompany their amazing collections of medals and kick ass scores....

if nothing else, it would be pretty funny.
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:48 am

heres your chance to do something about it

game 3583856 and 4 others. get your buddies and join.
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby Frop on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:49 am

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
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JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:Im assuming a farmer game is an 8 player assassin game that is played on a detailed map such as Waterloo. Its quite simple, when you see a game like this started by a high rank that you feel is trying to collect points, get 6 of your buddies to join that and only attack the high rank. Yes, it is assassin and your attacking the wrong target, but atleast the high rank does not win. Do it in every game that is started. The high rank will get tired of losing points and stop playing that type.

People like lt.pie are only trying to get their Assassin and Terminator medals. Oh, that's right, he has already got all his medals by now, but he's still starting the same Waterloo games over and over. How awkward.

get your buddies and join his games and team vs him. so you lose points and get a bad rating for it but your atleast doing something about it and not whining on the forum about it.

That's funny, because when I look at your last 100 games I just see you bashing noobs in 1v1s. Aren't you the one whining about it on the forum instead of actually getting your 'friends' together and beating up those mean noob farmers?
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Re: Glass houses and all that...

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:54 am

General Mojo wrote:
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yes, I started those few games months ago when I needed my assassin medal. When I first started trying to get the medal I played 3 player games. It was taking too long and alot of players dont know how to play them and I was taking cheap losses so I bumped it up to 8 player games. I used the map classic and only won a handful. So I moved on to a harder map which is what you have listed here and got the rest of my kills for my assassin gold. I havent played assassin since than which was 2 months ago. Than I saw King Herpes create a post where he was starting assassin game on the map waterloo and was only playing new recruits on purpose. He stated he would drop the game if a ranked player joined. Thank god I had my medals before that post was created. But yes, I played some of that type before it got out of control with some players.



So its perfectly acceptable to "farm" for one purpose (to get some cheesy medals representing a game type that you never play to appear on your profile) but not for another (to up your rank artificially on the scoreboard)? :?


As an impartial observer (i dont really care about farming one way or the other), it seems to me what really upsets people the most is when people take advantage of ?s who either deadbeat or have no prayer of winning due to the settings of the game (usually some variation of freestyle). That being the case, I thought I'd throw this idea out there: How about a new category of medals for (1) number of unique ?s defeated and/or (2) number of opponents defeated by deadbeat. At least then the true farmers would have to carry around silver or gold medals in those categories to accompany their amazing collections of medals and kick ass scores....

if nothing else, it would be pretty funny.
dont be 1 of those players that reads what they want too. I said I created some 8 player games to obtain my kills faster for my medal. After I had my medals, it was discovered by players that an 8 player assassin game on a difficult map was an easy way to obtain points assuming that low ranks would join the games only. I havent played an assassin game in 2 or 3 months.
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby King_Herpes on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:55 am

Today is daylight savings time everyone! Originally put in place to give all us farmers an extra hour to work the fields. Happy farming :D
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:58 am

Frop wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Frop wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:Im assuming a farmer game is an 8 player assassin game that is played on a detailed map such as Waterloo. Its quite simple, when you see a game like this started by a high rank that you feel is trying to collect points, get 6 of your buddies to join that and only attack the high rank. Yes, it is assassin and your attacking the wrong target, but atleast the high rank does not win. Do it in every game that is started. The high rank will get tired of losing points and stop playing that type.

People like lt.pie are only trying to get their Assassin and Terminator medals. Oh, that's right, he has already got all his medals by now, but he's still starting the same Waterloo games over and over. How awkward.

get your buddies and join his games and team vs him. so you lose points and get a bad rating for it but your atleast doing something about it and not whining on the forum about it.

That's funny, because when I look at your last 100 games I just see you bashing noobs in 1v1s. Aren't you the one whining about it on the forum instead of actually getting your 'friends' together and beating up those mean noob farmers?


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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:01 pm

Take me off foe and I will run a few teams at you, so all these people can say you are farming ;)



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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby pimpdave on Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:14 pm

I had been under the impression that the best way to beat a farmer was to use the old soap in pillow case method.
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby owenshooter on Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:16 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:heres your chance to do something about it

game 3583856 and 4 others. get your buddies and join.

the gauntlet has been thrown down!!!!-0
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby Stephan Wayne on Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:19 pm

pimpdave wrote:I had been under the impression that the best way to beat a farmer was to use the old soap in pillow case method.


can you explain that im interested
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby oVo on Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:38 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:Its quite simple, when you see a game like this started by a high rank that you feel is trying to collect points, get 6 of your buddies to join that and only attack the high rank. [...]but atleast the high rank does not win. Do it in every game that is started. The high rank will get tired of losing points [...]


I don't really care... if people wanna farm points? Let 'em. It's kind of like a football game
between Alabama and Arkansas State, nothing to write home or brag about.
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby White Moose on Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:42 pm

JR24, why do you want people to beat farmers? You farmed new recruits in 1v1's like crazy before (dont know if you still are doing it). So why are you botherd with others farming?
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby pimpdave on Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:50 pm

White Moose wrote:JR24, why do you want people to beat farmers? You farmed new recruits in 1v1's like crazy before (dont know if you still are doing it). So why are you botherd with others farming?



The question of the year!

Seems like only farmers or the rank obsessed really care about other farmers.
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby Stephan Wayne on Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:54 pm

pimpdave wrote:
White Moose wrote:JR24, why do you want people to beat farmers? You farmed new recruits in 1v1's like crazy before (dont know if you still are doing it). So why are you botherd with others farming?



The question of the year!

Seems like only farmers or the rank obsessed really care about other farmers.


case he gets defenceive after i or someone else said thats why he has points this is his exuse that farming isnt cheating
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:06 pm

White Moose wrote:JR24, why do you want people to beat farmers? You farmed new recruits in 1v1's like crazy before (dont know if you still are doing it). So why are you botherd with others farming?
im just tired of reading about it. It just seems no matter what you do its farming. You cant play the number 1 ranked player every game and even if you play the same rank, there are only roughly 50 players over 3K and I have no interest in just playing those players all the time and who wants to spend all the time setting up private games and sending out PM's to players to join your games and also afterwards to players to play against you when all you need to do is start a public game and let players join without all the hassel. The number 1 player also has no interest in playing anyone unless it is a speed game and there are also others in the top in that only play singles and other options that I dont care for. example: Scotland playing freestyle speed games so he can use his speed script. There are others that do the same thing. So if I dont play the same players over and over its farming and I know alot of other players that will tell you the same thing. As for 1 vs 1's, find me a high rank ( over 3K ) that will start a freestyle public game. There are none. So I play what is available. Theres nothing wrong joining a few games vs an opponent that only has a ranking around 1,000 points. I only have a couple active 1 vs 1's and most of them quit after they realized they lost instead of just finishing the game.
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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:11 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:heres your chance to do something about it

game 3583856 and 4 others. get your buddies and join.

anyone going to join these games or are we going to just continue to complain about it ?

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Re: how to beat a farmer

Postby White Moose on Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:32 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
White Moose wrote:JR24, why do you want people to beat farmers? You farmed new recruits in 1v1's like crazy before (dont know if you still are doing it). So why are you botherd with others farming?
im just tired of reading about it. It just seems no matter what you do its farming. You cant play the number 1 ranked player every game and even if you play the same rank, there are only roughly 50 players over 3K and I have no interest in just playing those players all the time and who wants to spend all the time setting up private games and sending out PM's to players to join your games and also afterwards to players to play against you when all you need to do is start a public game and let players join without all the hassel. The number 1 player also has no interest in playing anyone unless it is a speed game and there are also others in the top in that only play singles and other options that I dont care for. example: Scotland playing freestyle speed games so he can use his speed script. There are others that do the same thing. So if I dont play the same players over and over its farming and I know alot of other players that will tell you the same thing. As for 1 vs 1's, find me a high rank ( over 3K ) that will start a freestyle public game. There are none. So I play what is available. Theres nothing wrong joining a few games vs an opponent that only has a ranking around 1,000 points. I only have a couple active 1 vs 1's and most of them quit after they realized they lost instead of just finishing the game.


High lighted the part im answering.

Why does it have to be Freestyle? Freestyle is just unfair to the one starting the game, unless its Speed of course. I'm sure many of those 3k+ would like to play you if you asked for a sequential game. I myself am currently in the 2900 area, give me a game and i'll join you. As long as its sequential.
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