pts. for 2nd and 3rd?

by **asiago** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:17 am

how about rewarding pts. for 2nd and 3rd place in a 5 or more players game? what do you think?

by **hwhrhett** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:28 am

asiago wrote:how about rewarding pts. for 2nd and 3rd place in a 5 or more players game? what do you think?

i played at a place that worked like that, it was lame, the trend became the 'suicidal second' where once it got down to 3 or 4 players they would suicide into people to ensure that they would gain points and not lose points, kinda ruined ALOT of games.

by **whitestazn88** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:37 am

plus this should be in the suggs and bugs forum

by **hwhrhett** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:39 am

whitestazn88 wrote:plus this should be in the suggs and bugs forum

why? maybe he just wants to discuss it, he didnt use the form, wouldnt get near as many friendly responses there. and its a horrible idea so theyll just reject it anyway

by **SuicidalSnowman** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:39 am

Play terminator.

by **Bones2484** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:08 pm

by **hammocksleeper** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:32 pm

hwhrhett wrote:
asiago wrote:how about rewarding pts. for 2nd and 3rd place in a 5 or more players game? what do you think?

i played at a place that worked like that, it was lame, the trend became the 'suicidal second' where once it got down to 3 or 4 players they would suicide into people to ensure that they would gain points and not lose points, kinda ruined ALOT of games.

I agree! It might be a cool feature. Right now, it's pretty easy to suicide into a lower rank to ensure that the higher rank is the one that wins, so you don't lose as many points.

by **Natewolfman** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:17 pm

although it would be really cool i think to have this, say in an 8-way game 1st gets 50%, 2nd gets 30%, 3rd gets 20% of the points... I could forsee this having ALOT of abuse, you think its bad when people help there friends win for points, you will see alot of people helping there friends get first with knowing that you will still get points for 2nd...

by **PepperJack** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:20 pm

SuicidalSnowman wrote:Play terminator.

SS, I just want you to know that your message did, in fact, post.

by **Stephan Wayne** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:36 pm

this might work if it was its own setting like standred and termater are

by **owenshooter** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:40 pm

pretty bad idea, and it will ruin the game as we know it...-6cd

by **Stephan Wayne** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:43 pm

oh yeah case its so clean and uncropet now

by **owenshooter** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:53 pm

Stephen Wayne wrote:oh yeah case its so clean and uncropet now

i thought you had learned how to spell last week!! back to the undercover mode again, huh? pretty funny... anyway, as stated earlier in the thread:

hwhrhett wrote:i played at a place that worked like that, it was lame, the trend became the 'suicidal second' where once it got down to 3 or 4 players they would suicide into people to ensure that they would gain points and not lose points, kinda ruined ALOT of games.

i think Mr. H's point is very valid and he has experience with a site that used a model like the one being suggested, and it blew...-6cd

by **FabledIntegral** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:16 pm

In escalating games, it is very possible that everyone is killed in the same round. So now it's up to chance whether or not you come in 2nd or 4th. In freestyle escalating speed, often the WORST players are killed last in a sweep simply because they have ended their turn and can't steal on the active players, who in turn could steal a kill on teh ended players.

At the end of the game, if your army color isn't on the board, you've been eliminated. Play terminator if you want points for not winning.

by **Jeff Hardy** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:26 pm

FabledIntegral wrote:In escalating games, it is very possible that everyone is killed in the same round. So now it's up to chance whether or not you come in 2nd or 4th. In freestyle escalating speed, often the WORST players are killed last in a sweep simply because they have ended their turn and can't steal on the active players, who in turn could steal a kill on teh ended players.

At the end of the game, if your army color isn't on the board, you've been eliminated. Play terminator if you want points for not winning.

enough said
it might work for other settings but definitely not for fs esc

by **Prankcall** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:55 pm

How about just winning the game more often,maybe developing a better strategy so you don't take 2nd or 3rd so much.Play within your means possibly?! =D>

by **owenshooter** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:58 pm

Prankcall wrote:How about just winning the game more often,maybe developing a better strategy so you don't take 2nd or 3rd so much.Play within your means possibly?!

no, no, no, no!!! don't you know that the generation we are dealing with does not beleive in working for things they earn? they don't keep scroes in sports leagues and they all are "winners", they all get to graduate top of their class to avoid lawsuits by angry parents, they all get straight A's in college using extra credit assignments when they get a B or lower, they all expect to make 300K as soon as they graduate, and they all end up back at their parents house wondering why in the hell they aren't as successful as all the trophies and diplomas in their bedroom would lead them to believe!!!...-6cd

by **MrBenn** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:58 pm

hwhrhett wrote:
whitestazn88 wrote:plus this should be in the suggs and bugs forum

why? maybe he just wants to discuss it, he didnt use the form, wouldnt get near as many friendly responses there. and its a horrible idea so theyll just reject it anyway

This has been suggested (and rejected) before...

I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said--"Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desart....Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings,
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."

This is a game of world domination right? Conquer or be conquered...

by **drake_259** on Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:47 pm

i see that it could be good, but nah thats not how the games works and would suck a bit

but i don't mind second place basically not losing or gaining any points, for putting up a good fight

by **Mr Changsha** on Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:45 am

2nd or 3rd???

They may just be numbers on a screen, but in our minds they are armies, battalions and men. When the game is over there is only one army left standing. How can 2nd or 3rd get points? They are dead, no?

by **owenshooter** on Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:51 am

Mr Changsha wrote:2nd or 3rd???

They may just be numbers on a screen, but in our minds they are armies, battalions and men. When the game is over there is only one army left standing. How can 2nd or 3rd get points? They are dead, no?

i sent most of my dead foes a complimentary Death Notice PM to their mothers... i think that is a nice parting gift... and i am not joking...-6cd

by **Dancing Mustard** on Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:15 am

What about points for the 8th player?

Chances are that they had the least fun game out of all the players, so ought to get some kind of reward for spending their time in such a fruitless fashion. Right?

Also, one April Fool's Day, Lack ought to right this site so that for 24 hours the first eliminated player of any game (i.e. the loser) gets the points. That'd be hilarious.

by **jpcloet** on Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:23 am

owenshooter wrote:
Prankcall wrote:How about just winning the game more often,maybe developing a better strategy so you don't take 2nd or 3rd so much.Play within your means possibly?!

no, no, no, no!!! don't you know that the generation we are dealing with does not believe in working for things they earn? they don't keep scores in sports leagues and they all are "winners", they all get to graduate top of their class to avoid lawsuits by angry parents, they all get straight A's in college using extra credit assignments when they get a B or lower, they all expect to make 300K as soon as they graduate, and they all end up back at their parents house wondering why in the hell they aren't as successful as all the trophies and diplomas in their bedroom would lead them to believe!!!...-6cd

Could be an option in the game settings, wouldn't make this a regular thing.

Owen, you forgot that with 300K, they are also are entitled to the corner office.