***Finn Rock Fallout*** -- Game Over ~ Infected Win

by **AK_iceman** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:43 am

Yeah Kyle, Dont you give a shit about me anymore?
I may be fat, but I assure you it's only because I'm pregnant.

by **Master Bush** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:43 am

supercram wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:also unvote no vote

vote dussel

he's seemed really unstable/quiet in all of this. and when he was talking he seemed suspicious.

kyle, autoload is the one who claims your wife is mafia. do you give a shit?

I know right? That vote for dussle is silly. This game is driving me nuts.

:cry:

by **reverend_kyle** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:44 am

cram you make a good point this is personal, plus I know she's not which makes him a bs cop

unvote dussle

vote autoload

by **AK_iceman** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:45 am

Actually dussle looks suspicious because of his 4 votes in a half hour period. He just kept changing his vote when someone said that so-and-so looked guilty.

I chalked it up to him being a noob, but he could be a noob mafia just trying to make an ally.

by **supercram** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:45 am

reverend_kyle wrote:cram you make a good point this is personal, plus I know she's not which makes him a bs cop

unvote dussle

vote autoload

i was starting to think you weren't even paying attention except when
YOUR HEAD WAS ON A PLATTER

by **reverend_kyle** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:45 am

Master Bush wrote:
supercram wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:also unvote no vote

vote dussel

he's seemed really unstable/quiet in all of this. and when he was talking he seemed suspicious.

kyle, autoload is the one who claims your wife is mafia. do you give a shit?

I know right? That vote for dussle is silly. This game is driving me nuts.

I'm going crazy? Is your one at tb going to be this nuts? because if so I might grab some popcorn watch and laugh.

by **reverend_kyle** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:45 am

supercram wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:cram you make a good point this is personal, plus I know she's not which makes him a bs cop

unvote dussle

vote autoload

i was starting to think you weren't even paying attention except when
YOUR HEAD WAS ON A PLATTER

i typically only get on the computer from 4-6 and 12-3

all times mt.

by **supercram** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:46 am

AK_iceman wrote:Actually dussle looks suspicious because of his 4 votes in a half hour period. He just kept changing his vote when someone said that so-and-so looked guilty.

I chalked it up to him being a noob, but he could be a noob mafia just trying to make an ally.

i've been doing that shit too. but i actually have a good reason. i switched tonight because i don't want to see you lynched...yet.

by **reverend_kyle** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:47 am

Voting autoload is most sane thing to do... if ak was mafia we'd know after autoload was killed, and since he's not lynching him would be awful.

by **wicked** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:48 am

damn I didn't want to post again, wanted to stay at 4000... sigh...

if we vote Auto, will Andy say "insane cop" if he is so? Because if not, that's a total waste of a vote and two townies, since then everyone would want to vote IC and if Auto is insane, and IC is innocent, we've lost two healthy townies.

let's wait to hear Mach's plan. for now I will unvote IC,, but may very well vote him back again, I'm just not sure anymore.

by **AK_iceman** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:50 am

I need a vote count from Andy before I will consider voting.

And also some of the others POV on all this.

So, its been fun guys, but I will not be posting here for a minimum 8 hours.
G'night!

by **supercram** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:50 am

reverend_kyle wrote:Voting autoload is most sane thing to do... if ak was mafia we'd know after autoload was killed, and since he's not lynching him would be awful.

the fact that you went after dussle instead of autoload keep's my suspicion level of you up. dammit, it's shit like that that makes me think you are slipping up.

by **supercram** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:52 am

i'm out too. i need shut eye as well. tomorrow is another day.

thanks for the frenzy.

congrats wicked, on 4000. kyle is envious i'm sure.

by **wicked** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:52 am

p.s... and then I'm going to bed ...

losing a cop in previous games has typically unlocked another role. if we can't trust the cop (is he insane or not?), chances are we could trust the locked role. It may just be someone with a cure!

by **reverend_kyle** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:55 am

supercram wrote:i'm out too. i need shut eye as well. tomorrow is another day.

thanks for the frenzy.

congrats wicked, on 4000. kyle is envious i'm sure.

Totally, since I posted about it on my 4000 :roll:

I voted for dussle because he seemed suspicious, and the only reason I really voted for no vote was because it looked like the only thing to save my wife who I love dearly. Now that the bandwagon on her is calming down I felt I could vote of what i've observed.. then MB brought up a good point of me KNOWING autoload was full of shit, so I changed that..

good reasons for everything.

by **supercram** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:55 am

wicked wrote:p.s... and then I'm going to bed ...

losing a cop in previous games has typically unlocked another role. if we can't trust the cop (is he insane or not?), chances are we could trust the locked role. It may just be someone with a cure!

damn you've come a long way from "no lynch, let's not lose any townies!"

need to think on this now. :-k

'night kids.

by **autoload** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:03 am

Man, almost all of you flip flop a lot in here. I don't blame the townies in the dark though.

Firstly, if the vote is between myself and AK, who would you rather lose? A potential mason with no special powers since everybody knows who he is? Or a potential COP? Like what was stated before, even if I was a wrong way cop we could still use that ability once figured out.

My investigation results pm just said that AK was infected. The word infected was in red font. This leads me to believe that the game is not going to deal with CHI virus, just CHI-2. My analysis about my theory of just only dealing with the CHI-2 strain is below:

If we are to read the opening post by Andy we can see that the original CHI virus only spread through blood contact. We can assume normal people in the scope of this game are not going to be trying to infect people with their blood. CHI-2 is described to be an even more fatal and contagious new strain. This would assume the virus could be contracted just by being in proximity of a person. Here is the deal with delayed death. Let us say the 3 assumed traditional role of mafia players are called CHI-2 infected in this game. If they infect someone that person will just have the CHI virus and not be able to transmit the virus as easily as a CHI-2 person so CHI guys are not the focus. As long as people infected with CHI act responsible, the pandemic can be controlled.

It was nearly impossible to know who was infected, without coming in contact with the person; only in death would the infectious signs show on the body.

Pay attention to that. In game terms this means that we as townies suspect CHI-2 carriers are infecting townies giving them the CHI virus. Due to the recent lawlessness, the townspeople must take action in their own hands and as a group they decide on who to kill. If after the suspected CHI-2 carrier dies the infectious signs show up then Andy tells us at daybreak that a CHI-2 infected person was lynched. If no signs show up then an innocent was lynched.

That ends my analysis, but I just thought of something that I will put in my next post so that the material does not get lost in the text.

by **autoload** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:18 am

OK, I'm thinking to myself, if AK and the Rev are mafia falsely claiming mason why are the real Masons not counter claiming? Either:

A: AK and Rev are really Masons and I'm a faulty cop

B: They took a gamble and there are no Masons in this game. (I doubt this)

C: AK was the target of the mafia last night and was infected with CHI. Thus my investigation just shows him as infected and not CHI-2 infected. In this case he is still a townie and not to be lynched. If this scenario is true then mafia must win when the CHI-2 carriers outnumber the remaining healthy townies.

In normal style mafia games a no lynch is almost always bad. This game has proven to be not a normal style mafia game. I would call this a mafia/role playing game hybrid. It is still fun as hell though.

Anyways, since this is not a normal style mafia game and I really am unsure now of my true cop status, I:
Unvote: AK_iceman
Vote: No Lynch

Now in order for this to work we need the doctor to protect me at night and we must come to a consensus on who I should investigate night 2. Please let there be a doctor, but If you ARE the Doctor, do not claim!!!

If anyone finds a flaw in my post please speak up.

by **Freetymes** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:25 am

Well I spent a couple hours rereading last night and I have read everything since I went to bed this morning and I have to say that I no longer trust anyone!

One thing however is that I must agree that we lynch someone. Everything I read about this game and all of the experienced players say so too. I voted a no-lynch last night so we could wait for RK and others to show up and give some input. I think this was good as we heard from some and others are conspicuos in their absence.

I see one being ever present in the early going and trying to lead us around and now late in the day he is awful quiet and in his place another appears. I think we are eing led down the garden path here.

Autoload, posting in bold strikes me as being as overbearing as another in this game...

And please Auto, tell us, if what you say below is true and there is a mafia in each "Safe" area why isn't the game over? If what you say is true and casual contact will infect us then it is already over.

autoload wrote:This would assume the virus could be contracted just by being in proximity of a person.

You have talked yourself in a circle in your last couple posts and I think you are lying.

Un-vote no-lynch

vote autoload

As has been stated before... If I have mis-judged this it still gives us way more info than any other lynch so forgive me if I am wrong dude but I say we should get the rope...

by **Freetymes** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:31 am

Fast posted by Autoload but the above does not sway me any more than what he wrote before.

How bad would it be for our doc to guard auto (mafia) then we are all easy prey.

Auto this would have been a good argument 20 pages ago but now it looks more like an act of desperation. Like all of those who have played this game often I think a no lynch is a bad idea....

My vote stands.

by **Bogusbet** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:34 am

35 pages, this is getting beyond a joke, I have 30 mins access today so will need to stay up later tonight and catch up, until then,

UN-VOTE DUSSLE

by **HoussamTheGreat** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:37 am

wicked wrote:I don't know what Houssam got as a story, but the main details in ours seem to be the same (the inn, baby and divorce). The details that differ from your and RK's are where RK was at the outbreak.

So summary of my role, paraphrasing the key points...
I built Inn and met my wife that way, when she came to rent a room, we hit it off and got married. In our 3rd year of marriage, I caught her flirting with another guy and leaving with him. Soon after that, I filed for divorce, and since then we have been fighting for custody of our baby and the Inn. When the outbreak spread, I holed up in my Inn, until it got over-run by infecteds and burned to the ground. I escaped and took refuge in the nearest shelter, the Broadcast Towers.

OK... not to confuse things further the stories ARE different.. fundamentally different. I have no baby in my story (!) that's why I was trying to press Wicked on more details - was not told that about the inn burning down.

I think it is clear that this time, it's not about Mafia inventing stories. The different details are designed to cause this confusion precisely.

I think Wicked knows this quite well, I think she is bringing up all sorts of things to cause confusion all over the place. I think she is Mafia, and I think IC might be innocent, although I don't know yet.

As for her asking to be investigated - that's the oldest trick in the book - If I were the cop, and someone asks to be investigated, I would think twice about wasting the night investigating them - and then there is also the matter of mafia eliminating the cop that identified himself anyway.

Vote Wicked

and I feel good about it too.

by **autoload** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:46 am

OK, here is my take again. At the start of the game we were in 3 areas. Madness ensued and when daylight came we all came together. Since there is safety in numbers, why would we all go and separate again when night falls? I think the role playing is helping to a degree, but some people are looking for too many clues in the colorful language by Andy.

During the day it can be assumed that everyone is on guard and not allowing themselves to get close enough to each other to get infected. Once night strikes however nothing can stop the mafia from infecting us while we sleep... except the doctor however that works.

I only posted in bold like that because so much information is getting posted in this game that I wanted to make sure my post stood out and not get missed. I think I made some relevant posts and am acting in town's best interest.

Like I said earlier, normally a lynch every day is a good choice, but with these circumstances it may be better to no lynch and see if we can find a pattern with my investigations. A new twist though. I should be given a list of suspects and then investigate one in secret so mafia just doesn't infect the person I am going to investigate and mess with our experiment.

I am not faulting you for voting me Freetymes and I hope what I just said clarifies things a little bit. Like I said I welcome anything anyone has to say right now.

by **Bogusbet** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:33 am

WICKED FYI -

My name is Alan Gentry and I used to work as a taxi driver on the East Coast. I am now retired and have been a resident for just over 2 years.

There is so much going on;

I am looking to vote for either AK_iceman/RK or Autoload for the reasons already started.

Also not sure about Wicked or Dussle or Xen.

I'll be back later as my time is up.

by **autoload** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:01 am

Dammit. A part of me still can't go through with the No lynch.

Unvote: No Lynch

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